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Old 20-03-2010, 17:49
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Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

Swim was wondering comparisons between Crack cocaine and Crystal meth swim has smoked crack many times and is interested in how similair or different meth is?
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Old 21-03-2010, 00:12
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

Use the search engine. SWIV has seen this exact thread.
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Old 21-03-2010, 00:45
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

Crack is short-lasting and very euphoric. Meth is long-lasting, euphoric for the first half hour, and very dysphoric as you remain paranoid and tweaked for the next six. Meth is also much more peripherally stimulating (e.g. it's harder on your heart), and lasts incredibly long, and most of that time is not occupied by the euphoria of the first crack-hit (i.e. the first one is great, the second is good, the third is alright, the fourth is just to keep going), but from the first hit is reminiscent of the mindless craze to keep going, doing something, ANYTHING, that is characteristic of a crack binge on the 30-40th+ hit.

Except if you keep smoking the meth, because its stimulating, but not euphorigenic, effects last so long, you'll keel over and die of a heart attack, whereas with crack, you just smoke more - this insatiable desire to do ANYTHING on it, so long as it is doing SOMETHING - coupled with the strong reinforcing properties (even though only 1/10 of the high is pleasurable), is what leads to days-long orgies, breaking down and attempting to reassemble toasters, and general tweaker-like punding that is associated with methamphetamine, but not crack cocaine.

Meth is a long-lasting version of crack with none of the benefits and all of the negatives. Meth will turn you in to a tweaker with one big hit; hard usually requires a couple hours over a couple of sessions of steady puffing.

Imagine taking a hit of crack-cocaine, and the rush coming and going, but being left highly stimulated (not in a euphoric sense), paranoid, and dysphoric (the opposite of euphoric) for hours afterward, with a compulsion to take more, but if you do, you'll die, so that compulsion is channeled in to completely useless at best and very harmful or deadly at worst activities.

And the comedown is much worse.

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Excellent post with great detail thanks!
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Old 21-03-2010, 02:00
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

^^^^^

Everything this guy just said is bullshit.


Terrible post, I seriously question if the poster has ever tried either drug.

He doesn't describe them well at all. Sorry if this is a bit harsh for you, but i suggest not posting opinion as fact or make it much more clear we are just reading your opinion. Especially when you couldn't be any further from the truth.

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If you can explain better, then you should. Otherwise keep quiet.
agree very much. last post was way off and very slanted in preferance. was more a bias interpretation than a factual account
Believe it or not this thread boils down to OPINION, cuz in the end each persons drug of choice is different based on how they feel off of it. You can't say its BS if you aren't him.
Subjective viewpoints, which you claim are BS but you offer no viewpoint or thoughts. In other words your post is BS now.
Even in disagreement, be respectful and add your corections to add to the discussion instead of potentially starting a fude

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Old 21-03-2010, 02:19
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

yup. meth is way better.
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Old 21-03-2010, 12:59
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

This is a funny thread, 'cuz SWIM actually only smokes weed and used to have a blow problem, and snorts and pops E tab's on occasion, but has a friend who we shall name "Sketchy" who used to smoke crack whilst SWIM would be snorting his pretty white lines, and who has also had abuse problems with meth.
Long story short-- Sketchy gave up crack for meth, so from a non user of Crack or Meth's opinion, Meth would be the better? Correct SWIM if hes wrong.
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Old 24-03-2010, 01:18
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

You will not "die" from using meth, as the poster mentions. SWIM highly urges the OP to search the forums for better info. From the research SWIM has done, and all that she has smoked, she is pretty certain that it is near impossible to die from meth, or to OD even.
SWIM thinks that the poster had their drugs mixed up. While SWIM is not certain, she is pretty sure that you can OD on crack, as it is made from cocaine and that is a proven method of OD. SWIM actually performed CPR 15 years ago on her bff who was ODing from cocaine.
SWIM has never heard of anyone who ODed on meth. Not saying it hasn't or can't happen, but the risk is much less.

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Old 24-03-2010, 05:41
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

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Crack is short-lasting and very euphoric. Meth is long-lasting, euphoric for the first half hour, and very dysphoric as you remain paranoid and tweaked for the next six. Meth is also much more peripherally stimulating (e.g. it's harder on your heart), and lasts incredibly long, and most of that time is not occupied by the euphoria of the first crack-hit (i.e. the first one is great, the second is good, the third is alright, the fourth is just to keep going), but from the first hit is reminiscent of the mindless craze to keep going, doing something, ANYTHING, that is characteristic of a crack binge on the 30-40th+ hit.

Except if you keep smoking the meth, because its stimulating, but not euphorigenic, effects last so long, you'll keel over and die of a heart attack, whereas with crack, you just smoke more - this insatiable desire to do ANYTHING on it, so long as it is doing SOMETHING - coupled with the strong reinforcing properties (even though only 1/10 of the high is pleasurable), is what leads to days-long orgies, breaking down and attempting to reassemble toasters, and general tweaker-like punding that is associated with methamphetamine, but not crack cocaine.

Meth is a long-lasting version of crack with none of the benefits and all of the negatives. Meth will turn you in to a tweaker with one big hit; hard usually requires a couple hours over a couple of sessions of steady puffing.

Imagine taking a hit of crack-cocaine, and the rush coming and going, but being left highly stimulated (not in a euphoric sense), paranoid, and dysphoric (the opposite of euphoric) for hours afterward, with a compulsion to take more, but if you do, you'll die, so that compulsion is channeled in to completely useless at best and very harmful or deadly at worst activities.

And the comedown is much worse.
double post

Why isn't this thread closed yet?

And yes people OD and die from cocaine every single day.

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Old 19-04-2010, 00:21
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

the hit from crack is far more intense than meth but lasts 5-10 mins... meth lasts 6 hours or so when smoked and a totaly different buzz. You only need one pull on crack to get wired... a few is needed for meth
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Old 19-04-2010, 00:23
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

^^^

True that.

I wouldn't say crack is a better high, not for swiv at least.

But definitely gets me jacked way faster.
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Old 19-04-2010, 00:32
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

if the crack high lasted as long as meth swim would be in heaven... meth is better as swiy can have a few pipes and enjoy the smoke... rather than smoking your whole stash of crack in an hour and freakin out as you spent all your moneys on a hours fun
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Old 19-04-2010, 04:13
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

SWIV would have to disagree with this.

He strongly prefers the meth high to the cocaine high, simply because its a better high, the plus side is it lasts longer, is cheaper and has a not so intense comedown. The down side is, its much worse for your physical and mental health, and while the comedown is less intense its also much longer lasting (Swiv just happens to prefer the longer more gently comedown)

Cocaine can provide a good amount of Euphoria, but the high just isn't as good for SWIV for reasons other than the cheap price and long duration of meth. For instance cocaine is much more jittery than meth and produces a shit load more paranoia than speed (whats the point of being high if you have to look out your window every 5 minutes). The euphoria is good with cocaine but still not as strong as meth. The meth high and the cocaine high are very similar in SWIVS opinion, much more than say alcohol and LSD, but still meth will effect SWIV in ways cocaine just doesn't and probably never will.

This is just personal preference, obviously all swimmers are different and like different drugs for their own reasons. These are SWIVS reasons why he finds crystal meth to be a much better high than Crack/cocaine.

In the end swiv will be having a grand ol' time on both substances, but meth over crack any day for swiv.

Not to mention sex is 10X better on meth than coke.
Agree to disagree I suppose.

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Old 23-05-2013, 01:12
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

You all have some good thoughts. However, lets be honest, they are both bad and not to mention, not accepted in a high class society. We are what we eat. We can all deduct that if we smoke either one we are closet meth or crack heads. That is exactly what I wanted to be when I grew up. Crack is euphoric and fun for 1 min. THATS IT. Then...when you run out that 1 minute becomes gold, so you spend your whole life savings just to get 30 seconds of that 1 min back. And for some crazy reason you are always disappointed.. Hmmmm?
THEN....for your last brilliant attempt, to cover all the angles, you become an obsessive cumpulsive carpet, Nazi searching for the lost jewel. OR, you become a seedy, marathon masterbator and watch porn like it is going out of style. HOT!!
Crack at the very least was made and processed from a natural product, a plant. Meth originated in a skanky, bath tube from the poor smuck that wants to make a fast buck. They have long term, proven, defects that you will develop later in life dorm overuse. But the questioning is: what defect will manifest? It's not like if I get a sun burn it could cause cancer. It is the unknown. If I had to choose I would choose the one that doesn't have cousins Willie,s pubic hair and God knows what else in it. I'll say this, iif i I reluctantly try meth bc I think " this time will be different" ( surprise surprise). I either call 911 on myself because when i stopped, 12 hours later my heart was has running a race while layed OR, one time I had to go the the ER with my step mom and my dad bc my BP was height accompanied with a racing heart and jitters 12 hours after I stopped. This was all before Ambien was manufactured of course. Or, I have detailed hallucinations for the day I'm doing and 3 days after I stop.. Sounds like a blast, ill take two please. We have all got to wisen up or no one will even care or remember us......
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Old 19-07-2013, 09:54
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

This is not a place to list "fact" - even though the fact is meth causes extreme psychosis. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and instead of flaming this poster, why not write your own post with your own opinions?

I can barely handle stims as it is, definitely not one that gunna have me tweakin and miserable for days, waking up in a hospital bed a few days later!

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Old 19-07-2013, 10:29
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

IME crack is much more addictive and short acting, pretty gnarly rush but it feels dirty and i get extreme anxiety from cocaine/crack and will nearly 99% of the time find himself using it alone.

IME meth is pretty addictive too and lasts pretty long but the initial rush one seeks only lasts 3-4 hours before i wind up having to re-dose even if im still feeling moderate rushes but i can still openly communicate to some degree if i wasn't to spun. Smoked crack should provide near the same amount of euphoria as smoked meth but they are very very different so there really is no comparison. I don't fancy or abide smoking drugs by any means i have been clean for quite a while on the Stimulants...



This thread has been covered alot too... i have seen this exact same post on many other forums.

Seek and you shall find my friend.

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Old 19-07-2013, 11:12
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

IME I don't see how many posters here have any experience smoking gak. Gak is always thought by people before they try it to be that heart pounding adrenaline fueled panicky king-of-all stims high, and this simply isn't the case(maybe if it's loaded with pseuodoephed?). That's exactly why methamp is addictive to its unique level I think, it's smooth, focused. Powerful but in check. It's only the sleep deprivation and overly large quantities used that cause severe psychosis, or overdose. Which btw is a rarity(yes it does still happen I'm aware). I live in a town where 85% amd up meth is easier to find then weed sometimes.

Cocaine in base and also salt form is a much more severe risk for overdose due to its supposedly unique interaction with Na+ ion channels that regulate heart rhythm? Idk Someone please correct me on this. And t does in my opinion cause a harder paranoia and unbearable comedown in comparison. Although coming to a consensus about which is overall worse for you seems damn near impossible to me. Meth is more neurotoxic whereas cocaine is more immediately cardiotoxic. That being said, two nights in meth isn't good fr the heart either. It goes on.

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Old 19-07-2013, 18:01
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

Ok here; at one time I was a Crack HEAD, for about 6 months straight me and a buddy smoked a 1/4 oz a day, where I live was,is,and probably always will be rife large quantitys of high quality cocaine at fairly cheap prices. But long story short Crack is a very short high that leaves you instantly craving more at which time you start thinking off all kinds of bad ideas to get more. Now I smoke meth, which is rare where i live but if you know he right people is there and is VERY high quality(im talkiking like 4-5 days off 3/4 of a gram) meth is a much cleaner high that has never caused me that intense fiend that crack did, but the thing is Ive found that meth addiction is a much more sneaky one, you do some next thing its an hour before you gotta be at work and you dont wanna crash there so youll do a little more, then maybe a little at lunch, maybe just a little right when you get home damn does that clock say 5 am? I gotta start getting ready for work...and then the cycle repeats havong never caused an actual feelinh of feinding for the drug.Meth also allows the uset to focus on a given task in a way one never could on any form of cocaine.Now remember drugs are not a living entity and therefore cannot be either good or bad (unless thoses terms a used in describing quality/purity of said drugs) its people that are gpod or bad.Some people( myself included) tend to just be bad(or good depending on ones view point as these ae realitive terms)in the area of using Drugs and some people are not. Ive known people ypu are casual users of both some who had beenso for periods of several years, addiction lies in a person not a substance. If a crack high is what one seeks Meth will not cut it and if one likes a Meth high then they dont wanna waste there money on crack. Just my view/opinion as someone wirh a fair amount of experiance with both substances.
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Old 19-07-2013, 18:28
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

What do most people even do on crack besides stare at a wall for 10 mins then run to the nearest ATM? I mean damn, I can appreciate the euphoria but its a pretty useless drug. I've honestly seen some people get more tweaked out off a few hits of crack than someone up 2 days on meth.
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

I'm not a fan of smoking anything, I'd rather stick something up my arse in all honesty (besides smoking a little bud now and then). But I have friends who smoke meth and crack and I notice that crack is absolutely useless IMO everyone who does it can barely even have fun they have no time. my "friends" that smoke crack sometimes just put a youtube video on pause it and then hit there crack turn it on and tweak out watching it for a few minutes until they need another hit.

Meth on the other hand in small dose's can be quite fun but the insomnia and how long it lasts is just too much for me. I mean if I need to clean my house, fish tank, car, outside windows, mow the lawn, write an essay, alphabetize my novels and dvd's then yeah sure its great but I have only snorted it and smoking might have more euphoria but nothing is as good as a good old bundle of horse.

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Old 25-07-2013, 07:50
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

If a person were to introduce meth in a crack town, he'd make millions. I mean $25 of crack lasts thirty seconds, $25 of meth last all night.
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Old 28-07-2013, 12:35
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If a person were to introduce meth in a crack town, he'd make millions. I mean $25 of crack lasts thirty seconds, $25 of meth last all night.

My pet moose doesn't know if UsedToCook is talking about the hivgh or what you get in SWIY's $25 package. The meth high does last a lot longer than that crappy crack high and what My pet moose.can get for $25 bucks of and crack weighs out to the same weight as $25 worth of meth however you $25 crack rock is gonna last you 10mins while your $25 bag of method could last you maybe a day or 2 and that's not the high its the amount and often your gonna smoke snort or inject
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My two cents

They are two different drugs. An analogy can be seen by anyone who drinks poppy tea or chews coca leaf, if they concentrated the alkaloid into a pure form then smoked or IV'd it you would have a proportionate effect and fairly linear relationship to duration.

Coca, cocaine and crack are basically the same drug. Poppy pods, opium and heroin are basically the same drug. Routes of administration are basically the same and are proportionate to the quality/purity of the drug with each different route of ingestion.

In my freinds opinion ONLY:
If you eat the raw plant, you will have a much milder but longer lasting high.
If you snort the raw purified form you will have (my opinion) a 2/3rds stronger high that lasts about 1/3rd as long.
If you smoke or even IV the purest form of the drug you will have the strongest and fastest high.

But meth is a strange one that doesn't necessarily follow that same proportionate trend and is more like methadone and LSD. It will last a long time no matter what. Smoking or shooting it has limited "blast" appeal. For my freind it seems no matter how you ingest it the effects last about 6-8 hours. Smoking has always been most efficient and most "bang of buck" because it still lasts 6-7 hours AND has the highest euphoria for about 45 minutes.

To be honest while in Alaska, a freind of mine had what she called "Creth". It was the best of both worlds. She couldn't quite "ring her ears" and have that brain orgasm from the crack, but she also didn't crash as hard and the high tapered off into a meth high for 8 hours. I think no matter what drug you take, if you try to get as high as you can, you lessen duration and increase damage or risk of OD.

I just can't see any reason to IV any drug.
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Old 23-09-2013, 02:17
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

I think it is worth noting here that the many responses referring to a "better high" from one or the other drug are almost pointless.

With the amount of cut or adulterated product out there I have had astoundingly brilliant highs from meth and ones that have been average at best - I suspect crack users have experienced the same.

Comparing apples with apples in this case is not really possible.
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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

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Blah blah blah blah
This guy is in the UK so chances are he has never even seen meth before. Not to mention pretty much everything he said is wrong and couldn't be farther from the truth.

Ive never smoked crack and never will, Im not trying to get an intense high for 5-10 minutes before fiending and hitting it more and more when Ill never get as high as the first hit. At least meth last a few hours. When I first used meth back in 99-00 a couple hits would have me tweaking all night, but after using it maybe 5 times back then and then taking 13 years off I started smoking it again in July and I can smoke a bowl and goto sleep an hour or two later, not to mention eat like crazy on it. I also notice an almost complete lack of euphoria that the old meth had.

I would agree it could be tolerance IF I was a heavy user but to use 5 times and then take over a decade off only to return and find out it is completely different in both the high and side affects. I picked up a teener of bomb this afternoon that Ive personally seen people get twacked on, but I guarantee it will be gone by the morning and Ill be asleep by 6-7am.

Avoid both as they are just money pits and arent worth it in my opinion. If forced to choose if take meth any and everytime.

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Re: Crystal meth vs Crack cocaine

well u dont get so sketchy and u can go longer without a hoot. id much rather smoke meth in my opinion ..

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