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Old 14-03-2010, 01:01
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How often do you change your crack pipe?

How much crap does the inside have to be coated with before you bother making a new one? Or perhaps you make a new one every time you pick up (unlikely, in my opinion)?

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Old 14-03-2010, 02:13
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

SWIM was thinking that a lot of the stuff that sticks to the pipe is crap that won't vapourise, so he only smokes it if he's desperate.
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Old 15-03-2010, 00:00
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

Actually, a lot of that resin is valuable cocaine. My friend's step-brother said he has seen a loaded pipe actually sell for the same as four nice size rocks. It's all about how you keep your pipe, and what kind of shit you are smoking out of it. As soon as he finishes a hit the pipe goes straight into the AC vent to cool it down quickly, brillo side up ALWAYS. You should also be finishing your hits with the pipe straight up in the air like you are saluting God himself for that monster hit of dopamine you are about to enjoy.

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Old 15-03-2010, 00:44
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

Sorry, I was responding to another post which was deleted. It's been taken competely out of context now.
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Old 15-03-2010, 01:00
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

You probably won't believe this but SWIM and her boyfriend always used to use a fresh pipe every time they smoked. And at times their use has been on a daily basis so that meant making up a new pipe (each) every day. SWIM used to hate waking up in the morning after a session and seeing a used crack-pipe coated with a thick dirty-grey film. It made her feel sick - such a dirty habit. And it never occurred to her to smoke the stuff inside it.
For several years SWIM and her partner observed quite a strict hygenic practise as far as their drug paraphanalia was concerned. It was really only a couple of years ago when SWIM started using heroin as well as crack that everything changed. She said to her partner one time after smoking crack "I'm not gonna throw the bottles away - it seems silly to be wasting money every day getting new ones". And that was that.
SWIM started keeping the bottles for as long as possible - until they really were manky and needed replacing. And then one night it occurred to her to scrape out the pipe, which she did and was surprised how much she got out of it and at the hit she got off it. So that was the start of that. Now SWIM keeps a bottle for two or three night's worth of use before scaping it out and smoking the resin.
She uses a make-shift pipe, made out of an Evian water bottle, so what she basically does is scape out the resin from the neck of the bottle each time after use, but after a few times, when the bottle is caked, she'll get a knife and cut open the bottle to scape out all around it, using a new pipe to smoke it on. And that's how it goes.
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Old 15-03-2010, 17:33
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

Round SWIm we call the beautiful crack resin the "caviar". Dark brown and gooey resin. Better rock will leave more residue. One good push on the choreboy to the other side of the pipe (done with metal hanger or something that fits) should collect anough resin on a well smoked crack pipe to give a hell of a bell ringer to the brain. Nothing is better than that.... SWIM found that if SWIM puffs a 20 piece, hell push it, puff that and repace that chore cuz used chore seems to steal good rock. Also, please use chore boy, and burn it well before shoving down your stem as a screen. SWIM imagines that brillo is choked full of non mind altering chemicals. (you know, the bad ones)
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Old 15-03-2010, 17:49
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

^ SWIM uses a different sort of pipe that SWIY, but still has same experience/opinion of the brown gooey stuff - ain't that the shit?!
What SWIM really loves about the resin is when it's dark brown and a bit damp it burns that little bit slower whilst crackling away the whole time it's lit - it might even be a bit of a placebo effect really, but that sound just tells you that you're gonna get a good hit - awesome!
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Old 18-03-2010, 21:18
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

The rainbow trout suggests that a wooden craft stick or chopstick is used instead of anything metal or plastic to adjust the screen or scrape out resin. Metal, such as coat hangers, can chip the glass inside the pipe or cause the ends to break. Plastic, like a ballpoint pen or syringe plunger, can melt inside the pipe, causing SWIY to inhale potentially hazardous plastics.

Also, to reiterate Intoodeep's point, choreboy/brillo release toxic chemicals when they are burned, so SWIY should burn them well BEFORE sticking them in SWIY's pipe.

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Thank you for pointing this out. I have used paperclips but your reasoning for using wood is sound. Also I didn't even think about the harm of using plastic. Sometimes it helps to have the most obvious things pointed out to us.
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Old 19-03-2010, 19:48
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

SWIM uses a makeshift plastic pipe, outta a small Evian bottle of water. She pours out about one third of the water and burns a hole in the side with a cigarette. Then she inserts a tube (either out of a plastic bic biro pen or a McDonalds' straw) in the hole. She puts a piece of tinfoil on top, over the hole where the lid would've been and pricks small holes in the foil. Finally she puts a bit of ash on top of the foil and the crack on top of that. She burns the crack whilst inhaling through the tube.

Anyway, when SWIM has finished she scrapes out the bottle with a penknife and the tube with a metal hanger, modified for the task. As the bottle is plastic, do SWIY's think that she will be getting lots of nasty chemicals/toxins along with the resin?
SWIM's boyfriend always tells her not to scrape too hard, so they don't end up with plastic in the resin smoked, but SWIM kinda pooh-poohs him, saying that it's really unlikely she's gonna scrape any of the bottle off. Does she owe him an apology?!
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Old 19-03-2010, 23:08
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

SWIY may owe him an apology, if either feels it is appropriate, however SWIY also owes it to herself to find a less harmful medium for smoking.

The rainbow trout would be certainly concerned with plastic shavings in the resin, and she would perhaps be even more concerned with applying flame to the top of a plastic water bottle covered with tinfoil and directly inhaling the fumes that come from it.

The rainbow trout hopes that SWIM can find a safer alternative to plastic.

The rainbow trout once made a pipe from a little glass jam jar from a hotel. She punctured two holes in the metal lid. One fit a straw, the other, burnt brillo. She used electrical tape to seal the holes. She then decorated it by making designs with strips of coloured electrical tape. It was quite cute ...and safer than plastic.
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Old 20-03-2010, 01:46
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

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SWIM uses a makeshift plastic pipe, outta a small Evian bottle of water. She pours out about one third of the water and burns a hole in the side with a cigarette. Then she inserts a tube (either out of a plastic bic biro pen or a McDonalds' straw) in the hole. She puts a piece of tinfoil on top, over the hole where the lid would've been and pricks small holes in the foil. Finally she puts a bit of ash on top of the foil and the crack on top of that. She burns the crack whilst inhaling through the tube.

Anyway, when SWIM has finished she scrapes out the bottle with a penknife and the tube with a metal hanger, modified for the task. As the bottle is plastic, do SWIY's think that she will be getting lots of nasty chemicals/toxins along with the resin?
SWIM's boyfriend always tells her not to scrape too hard, so they don't end up with plastic in the resin smoked, but SWIM kinda pooh-poohs him, saying that it's really unlikely she's gonna scrape any of the bottle off. Does she owe him an apology?!
SWIM finds that his martell bottle gets hot. If this happened to an evian bottle, wouldn't it melt or give off fumes?

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Old 20-03-2010, 02:35
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

they dont sell "crack kits" in the little shops in the seedy part of your town? SWIMs local bodega sells a complete kit for $3. SWIM goes in, asks for a stem and chore, and the employee opens the drawer under th cash register, pulls out a glass stem, 2 pre cut pieces of choreboy, and a cheap lighter, and places all the items in a brown vag, which he politely folds the top over for said crack user. Pretty much every corner variety store/bodega offers the same service. Is this normal or do I just live in a real shiity city?
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Old 20-03-2010, 06:19
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

SWIY lives in a really awesome city that cares about people who use and makes sure the equipment is available.
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Old 22-03-2010, 01:43
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

Are you making fun of me or are you serious? Although SWIM doesnt live in the best area, its not the total ghetto shit hole you might imagine. we just have bodegas, thats all.
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Old 22-03-2010, 03:47
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

The rainbow trout was being completely serious. The rainbow trout just got in an order of 800 glass stems for local distribution along with screens, plastic mouthpieces, wooden push sticks, and swabs of Vaseline for lip care. She's having a heck of a time finding places for them to be distributed out of, the local head shops won't even touch the stuff. It's a shame, as so many swimmers in her lake are using and sharing old, broken up pipes.
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Old 24-03-2010, 00:56
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

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SWIM finds that his martell bottle gets hot. If this happened to an evian bottle, wouldn't it melt or give off fumes?
SWIY should not apply that much heat. The machine is not meant to be used like that and hence the probable reason for seeing violently split/unburnt rock in the gauze.

- SWIM has melted the rock gently on the gauze prior to inhalation. Personally SWIM doesn't think this aids anything at all other than the obvious - losing the rock.

- Vaporise - pipe vertical GENTLE flame, very gently pull in order to keep the vapours moving, the purpose is to vaporise the rock not to hit on it. 3-5 seconds

- Hit it - Full inhalation now, pull very hard, there's a lot of smoke to get through Again SWIY should not get carried away with applying too much flame. Medium only. Start drawing the pipe down slowly so it's horizontal, try to also rotate the neck too if you can.

Note of caution at the hit stage is that SWIY may not have enough lung capacity left resulting in wastage. Try with a smaller piece of first

If all has gone well SWIY should be very pleased
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Old 24-03-2010, 02:58
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

Dred, SWIM finds what SWIY has to say very interesting. SWIM's boyfriend has always been (by his own admission) greedy when it comes to his drug of choice, crack-cocaine. He binges with it, does far bigger rocks (not only from SWIM but from other crack-smokers they know, some of whom have been smoking as long as he has), and chain-smokes during a session. For a long time SWIM has had a bit of a beef with him over this. Someone had once told her that the best way to smoke crack was to do a piece of gear that was of a manageable size (ie could be smoked in one go), and to light it gently at first, inhale gently too and then hit it harder and pull harder (pretty similar really to what SWIY has outlined above). Also SWIM has it in her head that doing a massive rock on a pipe is less effective/more wasteful and instead of getting a brilliant hit (as is the intention), he is just wasting more of the drug and not getting any benefit.
Aside from what this other person told her, SWIM actually believes it proven to her because this individual once loaded a pipe for her and lit it for her whilst talking her through the hit (he basically lit it the way he thought best and told her when to pull gently on the pipe and when to inhale hard). It worked and aside from her first ever pipe it was probably the best hit she has ever had. Other times since SWIM has noticed that she has had pipes where she has put less gear on and yet got a far better hit from hit. Her boyfriend always pooh-poohs this and she knows he thinks she's talking rubbish and it's all in her head but SWIM is quite small and doesn't have good lung capacity either. If she does a big rock therefore she can never finish it in one go, sometimes it takes her three or four goes. Yet a smaller pipe that is finishable is always better in as far as the effect it produces.
Since SWIM and her boyfriend have started scraping their pipes at the end of the night and smoking the resin she's noticed that there is always more in her partner's pipe. She's often remarked on it or teased him that it shows as a sign of how much more gear he smokes than SWIM, but having read Dred's post above SWIM now wonders if it's really a sign of how much gear he's wasting when he smokes and not getting the effects of. After a heavy session with crack SWIM's boyfriend's pipe will literally be caked in thick brown gooey resin, that crackles when it's burnt and smokes quite well on the pipe.
When he smokes crack SWIM's boyfriend always applies the full flame straight onto the piece of crack being smoked and pulls hard from the off. Is SWIM right in thinking this is a reckless and wasteful way to smoke it? In SWIM's understanding he should light the rock gently to start off with (perhaps dancing the flame on and off the pipe?) and inhale gently too, so that smoke begins to circulate inside the pipe, and only then should he inhale hard and perhaps at the same time light the pipe with a stronger flame. Should SWIM tell her partner this?
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Old 24-03-2010, 17:35
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

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Also SWIM has it in her head that doing a massive rock on a pipe is less effective/more wasteful and instead of getting a brilliant hit (as is the intention), he is just wasting more of the drug and not getting any benefit.
Aside from what this other person told her, SWIM actually believes it proven to her because this individual once loaded a pipe for her and lit it for her whilst talking her through the hit (he basically lit it the way he thought best and told her when to pull gently on the pipe and when to inhale hard).
- Once again beena your words are an asset to these forums.

SWIM has always thought of it as being wasteful, observing other smokers' smoldering pipes. What a waste. When the pipe was handed to SWIM, he would fold the ash and light up for a nice 50% hit . SWIM has noticed that this is frowned upon even though it's SWIM's drugs so it's probably best to shake off the ash and pay the ground rent

Overall SWIM has found that most choose the blast furnace method. Indeed SWIM used and still uses this method too. It looks cooler (look at the size of the rock sitting on the pipe prior to ignition ) and finally lots of snap, crackle and pop which aids to the illusion of a mighty fine hit. In hindsight SWIM feels that binging within a circle of people (indeed even between a couple) is a possible cause for this behavior. Most individuals become greedy (fear or losing out even though there is plenty to go around?) and then there are those who protect their investments and clients(more about that some other time).

An alternative theory could be to say that individuals are seeking a 'clean' high free of impurities. A bigger rock should give you a bigger probability of a fine hit even though it's wasteful.

What about the Mr Big effect ? Being Mr Big for some could be better than the high itself.

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Should SWIM tell her partner this?
The way a person smokes is a VERY personal trait and one should really take caution. SWIM has tried to teach and has noticed those who just do not want to learn or are very uncomfortable with SWIM holding the flame. Maybe SWIM is a poor teacher

SWIY should suggest a better way of getting a hit, read SWIM's first 'real' hit...

SWIM went to see his friend wanting a major binge session with friend and gfs. SWIM likes him as he's on the same wavelength as SWIM, not greedy and in control. He always asks SWIM if he can take the first hit which SWIM usually approves as he's never greedy nor does he hog the pipe.

The way he smokes is very pure, SWIM has never seen him waste.

Today was different, he unwrapped a few rocks and prepared the first pipe by placing the biggest m****r f***ing rock complete on the pipe. He placed the pipe in front of SWIM. He simply smiled at SWIM

WTF ! To this day SWIM doesn't know why he did that - let everyone know who is the man ? - crazy and stupid imho ? It was crazy, these were no tiny street rocks either, if anything SWIM feared O/D!. SWIM felt his heart flutter, everyone in the room looked at each other. It was a crazy moment.

SWIM split the rock and the session started, gradually bringing SWIM's rock sizes up to the usual large ones . No one talked about the first rock.

A few hours later he turned to SWIM and said now I teach you to smoke. He built a new water bottle and the rock size was average - nothing impressive.

He told SWIM off for pulling too hard and SWE started again. OMG it was so intense and to this day SWIM remembers him saying 'forte ... forte ... forte' STRONGER STRONGER STRONGER. SWIM was at euphoria even though there was still smoke in the pipe. Best pipe ever
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Old 24-03-2010, 18:28
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

Doesn't anyone find it's hard not to apply the flame directly, since when you breathe it pulls the flame down the stem?
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

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Doesn't anyone find it's hard not to apply the flame directly, since when you breathe it pulls the flame down the stem?
SWIY is still pulling too hard.

SWIY should remove the flame immediately. SWIM hates the taste of burnt carbons in SWIM's pipe.

Flame has to be applied directly but not intensely - melt not burn. Once it has started melting remove the flame and continue to build smoke by gently pulling in for a second. Apply flame in bursts and repeat. It's surprising how little flame you need. Gently sucking builds more vapour

REMEMBER SWE are not smoking the pipe yet... Just preparing and building up the vapour

3-5 seconds later.

Once the bottle is full of vapour start pulling it all. Be greedy now Just remember not to BURN the remainder

Another thing SWIM forgot to mention ... If SWIY has to look at where the flame is then something is seriously wrong. Practice makes perfect
The trick is to know when to pull hard. A lot of SWIYs kick off too early. So patience is a virtue.

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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

A few points that SWIM has to make on the last few boths (basically those by Dred and chinpokomaster) ...

Dred ... just about everything SWIY has said is what SWIM believes to be true as far as getting the optimum hit from a pipe. She read not so long ago in one of those little booklets they give out at drug clinics (basically a leaflet on harm reduction and drug use) that the ideal way to smoke crack-cocaine would be to wait 30 minutes inbetween pipes (which they said was to allow the brain time to replenish serotonin, needed to give the user a good hit, and of course the longer you can leave it between pipes the better - that's obvious, although not always easy to do - but they were probably coming at it from a harm reduction angle too as opposed to a 'getting the best hit' angle!), and to increase the size of the rock being smoked each time. This was the first time SWIM had read or come across this idea of the rock needing to be slightly bigger each time but apparently the brain needs more with each go if the user is to experience a significant high each time (suppose it makes sense really). Again it's not always that easy to do as SWIM likes to start off with a fairly decent sized pipe and then usually follows it up immediately with some smaller crumbs. What size rocks she smokes after that is usually a fairly random process ...

As for the 50% hit thing, SWIM always finds that she gets little off a half-smoked pipe when it's handed to her. Maybe it's psychological but SWIM notices she only really feels the hit when it's a fresh rock that she's inhaled from the get-go. She also has a natural dislike of second hand smoke, but for no tangible reason, but then so does everyone else she knows!

SWIM's boyfriend is definately very greedy as far as crack is concerned and he'll readily admit it. She doesn't think it's a Mr. Big thing though at all as she knows he's smoked on his own in the past and done such a stupidly big pipe that he blacked out and cut open his head.
It doesn't seem to matter who he is with: he is just plain greedy! (and he certainly doesn't have to show off in front of SWIM. If anything she frowns on the size of his pipes, partly because she is worried he'll keel over and partly because she just thinks it's wasteful). That is the main reason she wants him to reconsider the way he smokes: wouldn't it be better for him if he was doing smaller rocks yet getting a better hit from it?
Although she disagrees with him trying to act big, she is well aware of a certain amount of what she would call 'male pride' or maybe it's just plain machoism. SWIM has had a third person light a pipe for her in the way he said was best whilst talking her through the process. She got an awesome hit this way, second only to the very first hit she ever had. This person is a mutual friend of SWIM's and her boyfriend and she would ideally love her fella to let this friend light his pipe one time and talk him through it like he did SWIM, but she wouldn't dare suggest this as she is certain it would be considered an insult by her boyfriend.

SWIM has been trying to practise lighting the pipe in the way Dred has suggested by using a less direct flame to start with and gently inhaling to get the smoke circulating in the bottle before pulling hard. She is noticing an improvement in the hit but she's not perfected it yet.
SWIM knows what SWIY is talking about though chinpokomaster. Don't get too disheartened about it. Remember that old adage: practise makes perfect? Well, it's true! SWIM has been used to smoking for ten years in the same way as her boyfriend although probably not pulling as hard and it's hard to change that habit. She finds sometimes (note btw that this is after she's already had a good few pipes!) that if she lifts the flame off the bottle she automatically/instinctively stops inhaling at the same time (so she gets this stunted effect of: lighter on, breathe in gently, lighter off, stop breathing, lighter on, start breathing again, etc). It's embarrassingly dumb!
Actually this is not a new problem for SWIM either. In the past she had to get her boyfriend to light her pipes for her after a while if they were having a lengthy/heavy session. The reason being that she lost the ability to multitask: she couldn't light the pipe and inhale at the same time (?!). Every time she would light the pipe she would forget to breathe in!
Well, at least SWIM can say it's not the worst thing she's seen done as far as someone trying to smoke a pipe goes. A few years ago she was out with her boyfriend and another friend and they went back to this friend's house for a few pipes. He was a novice at smoking so he asked SWIM if she could light his pipe. Ok, no problem. Well everytime SWIM would try to light the pipe for his he would be unable to put his mouth over the hole (they weren't using tubes at the time, so it was just a hole in the side of the Evian bottle, which is a little trickier admittedly), and instead would be pulling on plastic on the totally wrong side of the bottle. He'd stop inhaling and look up and SWIM and accuse her of not lighting the pipe properly because he could see no crack-smoke was entering the bottle so SWIM would explain to him what he was doing wrong and he would find the hole and get ready to smoke. But as soon as SWIM went to light the pipe again he would move his mouth again. This went on for at least ten minutes!

Anyway, Dred is totally right, we've all gone way off-topic here. But then as chinpokomaster started the thread I guess it's up to him whether he minds or not. There's only so much conversation you can get out of the frequency a crack bottle is changed! (no offence to the OP)
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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

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Re: How often do you change your crack pipe?

SWIM is curious as to how SWIYs progressed with this, it obviously looks like it hasn't reaped any benefits at all !

Think of it this was way, when heat is applied vapour should be created in the pipe and not instantly burnt away.

SWIM still thinks that the initial pull is too hard ... the strength should be the equivalent to natural background breathing.

OK scrap that method and try practicing a uniform very long slow pull instead.

- The flame is barely touching the rock (2-3mm above it) and it gently starts to melt

- Start the gentle long pull for as long as you can go.

- Start slowly lowering the flame gradually on to the stone itself.

It comes down to efficient burning thereby maximizing the volume of smoke created.

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