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Old 10-03-2010, 20:41
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Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

Swim just took 25mg of hydrocodone, 150mg codeine, and snorted 40mg of adderall. Swim is FLYING. best feeling swim has ever experienced. Anyone else like to mix opiates with amphetamine?
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Old 10-03-2010, 21:09
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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

In swim's neck o' the woods a mixture of the two is referred to as a "speed ball". (although most frequently with heroin/cocaine---but same jist.)
Mixing the two; although quite pleasurable, can be considerably dangerous. In swim's opinion, the upper/downer combo tends to cancel out each other's negative side effects (tachycardia with the amphetamine/cocaine, or sedation with opiates for example...) Thus making an overdose more likely.

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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

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In swim's neck o' the woods a mixture of the two is referred to as a "speed ball". (although most frequently with heroin/cocaine---but same jist.)
Mixing the two; although quite pleasurable, can be considerably dangerous. In swim's opinion, the upper/downer combo tends to cancel out each other's negative side effects (tachycardia with the amphetamine/cocaine, or sedation with opiates for example...) Thus making an overdose more likely.
swim agrees and is careful. he extracted the opiates with water, and 40mg of adderall is a low dose for swim. Swim loves it, its an whole body high. Usually swim has a lowerbody euphoria with amphetamines and not a whole lot of expieriance with the opiates, but he loves this combo!

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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

Adderall and codeine are CYP2D6 inducers which would account for greater euphoria from the hydrocodone.

Hydrocodone is metabolized into hydromorphone by the p450 liver enzyme via CYP2D6 therefor the adderall and codeine both of which are CYP2D6 substrates would create a greater conversion of hydrocodone to hydromorphone.

Also the Codeine would be converted into morphine because of the same concept (Hydrocodone & Adderall CYP2D6 inducers).

SWIM has always had greater analgesia/euphoria when he mixed cyp2d6 inducers with hydrocodone & oxycodone (I.E. dihydro/codeine +/or adderall & hydrocodone, oxycodone & codeine/dihydrocodeine &/or adderall)

This should be pointed out in the opiate potentiation threads
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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

SWIM agrees that adderall + hydrocodone by themselves can be the best combo ever. I imagine codeine could only help- I will have him try it next time.

It must be said though: those are LARGE doses of each drug to combine if SWIY isn't tolerant to any of them through prolonged previous usage.

The upper/downer thing is VERY dangerous because it can become nearly impossible to tell how much of an effect either is having by themselves. That is how people can actually drink themselves to death unintentionally just by taking uppers with the alcohol. It would be highly advised for SWIY to NEVER go near his previous high of either a downer or upper when combined with the other.

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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

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Adderall and codeine are CYP2D6 inducers which would account for greater euphoria from the hydrocodone.

Hydrocodone is metabolized into hydromorphone by the p450 liver enzyme via CYP2D6 therefor the adderall and codeine both of which are CYP2D6 substrates would create a greater conversion of hydrocodone to hydromorphone.

Also the Codeine would be converted into morphine because of the same concept (Hydrocodone & Adderall CYP2D6 inducers).

SWIM has always had greater analgesia/euphoria when he mixed cyp2d6 inducers with hydrocodone & oxycodone (I.E. dihydro/codeine +/or adderall & hydrocodone, oxycodone & codeine/dihydrocodeine &/or adderall)

This should be pointed out in the opiate potentiation threads
The amount of hydromorphone converted from hydrocodone is quite minimal. The conversion rate is generally pointless, since hydrocodone is active on its own.

Also, morphine produced in vivo by codeine is up to around 9%. It is commonly believed that morphine is the main component behind codeine's analgesic properties. Contrary to this belief, the major metabolite from codeine is codeine-6-glucuronide, which constitutes up to 70% of the pro-drug.
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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

So would this be safe for swim to try with about 20mg adderall...Swims second time ever taking adderall and maybe about 10-15mg of 5mg 1000 APAP hydrocodone?
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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

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So would this be safe for swim to try with about 20mg adderall...Swims second time ever taking adderall and maybe about 10-15mg of 5mg 1000 APAP hydrocodone?
If I am understanding your post correctly, you are talking about a preparation containing 5mg of hydrocodone and 1000mg acetaminophen per tablet? To take 10-15mg of hydrocodone in this preparation, you would be ingesting 2000-3000mg of acetaminophen per dose. This is far too much. The recommended safe dosage of acetaminophen is up to 1000mg per dose, every 4-6 hours, not exeeding 4000mg in any 24 hour period. So taking 2000-3000mg in one go would not be advised, the damage excessive acetaminophen consumption can do to ones internal organs is often irreversible.

For an easy method to significantly reduce the amount of acetaminophen consumed, please read through the Cold Water Extraction (CWE) sticky

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Re: Hydrocodone + codeine + adderall = best feeling ever

SWIM once took 20 mg hydrocodone with 25 mg ritalin and SWIM said that the effect was close to rolling on MDMA. Is this accurate?

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