First time

[mark_v]

Later this day SWIM is going to take his first XTC pill ever.

IOW his first illegal drug ever !

Did some benzo's and some tramadol, but now is the first time
'ill take some 'real' drugs in my life (except weed and hasj) and
i'm 25



WHats the best thing to do, because i don't know a thing about the quality ?

Take a half one first, wait for an hour and take the other half ?

[Tony Blair]

Yeah, dosage is good... Eat it and dont think about it.. You dont think
about "OOOH, AM I DRUNK YET?" after a ... ooh, you're in the land of
good beers... a Chimay Blue or Gulden Draak, for example, do you?

[raven3davis]

I would say just take the whole pill and see where the night takes you. Drinnk lots of water, but more importantly, have lots of fun! BTW what kind pill did you get?

[mark_v]

I've took the whole pill in once, an now a few hours later, don't feel a thing..

The guy that sold it to me said he goes wild on them every weekend, and i trust this guy.

But for me, don't feel a fuckin' thing, even fell asleep watching television an hour after i took it.



Weird huh ?!

[raven3davis]

Very wierd, I didnt think it would be possible to sleep on XTC. Who knows. To be honest, I dont think you got real X. If it was real you would have felt something, and definitely wouldnt have been able to sleep.

[Tony Blair]

I dunno, very pure MDMA is so relaxing... I could probably fall asleep



But yeah, you got a dud... Either that or you're on anti-depressants and they blocked the effect..

[mark_v]

I always had to take large amounts of other drugs to feel their effects, maybe the same with this one, dunno..

A friend of mine is going to test those pills for me this evening...

[ambrosius]

SWIM's list of fun things to do on X:


Techno...'nuff said. He used to hate techno until X came into his life. I myself have made techno made specifically for altered states of mind, if you want it, it'savailable for your enjoyment.


If anyone's around: massages and talking (or attempting to talk..X messes with his speech)


Hands-through-the-floor: Lay on the ground face down and close your eyes with your arms stretched out in front of you. Keep them COMPLETELY relaxed. Have someone wiggle and stretch your arms around for about a minute then have them slowly lower your hands to the ground. For a bit, you feel like your hands have missed touching the floor. It's bizarre.


Menthol cigarettes: SWIM HATES menthol, but for some reason they taste and feel great on X.


Glowsticks: If someone else around knows how to dance with them, s/he'll probably gladly dance for you. Fun to watch.


Classical music: Very emotional.


Dancing like an idiot: feels great


Curling up on a comfortable surface and letting the buzz take you over.


Laying down on cold concrete for some reason feels wonderful too.

[xpr´k]

a must have one on E is also hiking in the woods (the darker the better) .


yesterday SWIM finally found a fe of those blue triplestacked mitsu's.


After 1/2 pill Swim was watching some TV and noticed his sigarette's were running out, so he got of his lazy ass and jumped on his bike to get some more.


On the way back he decided to make a detour cause it was just right for a bit of biking. After a while it started raining pretty bad soSWIM wanted to get home as fast as possible. He decided to take a shortcut through the forrest thats only yards from his backgarden.


Swim left @ 1.30h for his sigarettes and by the time swim resurfaced it was 7.00h . Swim got lost very bad but luckely he had packed extra pillz , his weed and a bottle of water before he left home . Swim had an amazing time, only thing that would have made it cooler was the presence of a few friends. But them and myselfhad other plans for the night.Edited by: xpr´k

[Brie]

My first time i took a two halfs with an our between them


the night was good, but my experiences with the whole one at once are alot better


Edited by: Brie

[big-lester]

I only took a half tablet the first time, was on of the best E trips of my live.



Why can't a half pill be enough now!!, would safe me some money

[Brie]

Probably because not all E pills are of the same strengt......and i think the Cherries werent as strong as those mitsubishi´s that is a big point in that matter

[big-lester]

I don't think that has to do with it Brian, I've had pill that where
faaar bether than those mitsus but a half one shouldn't be enough for
me now to have a proper XTC roll. Just has to do with my tolerance I
think

[Brie]

ok thats right you tolerance for about everything is low......wich makes everything alot better.......but with normal people who dont have a low tolerance, first try a half cause when u take something new you always have to be carefull you dont know how you are gonna react to the E


But it also depends on the pill some pills have 200mg of mdma others have 300, 150 and so forth.......just be carefull with the first time

[drugs-bunny]

brie, your living in a dreamworld, i WISH dealers would sell pills with
300 mg/200 mg. do you really think pills contain that much? the chemist
would become broke if he'd do shit like that. average is 75/100 mg

[big-lester]

omg! if you would take 300 mg at once.... Once I took 160mg pure MDMA
and that was some mind blowing shit but I can't Imagine the effect of
300mg altough I read something about some guy who took 500mg and he
felt like he was falling through the floor

[Nagognog2]

At a certain point, which is different with each person, the experience changes from the prototypical MDMA "roll" - toone of anxiety and toxicity. Such symptoms as going through time-loops where you keep repeating the same event such as the passing of a joint, opening a window, petting the cat - become commonplace and problematic.As you are not really doing these things over and over. Your sense of time becomes messed up. This results in confusion and anxiety. For some this will happen at under 160mg. Typical is anything over 200mg. It is not pleasant or suggested. The American adage: If a little's good - more is better, does NOT hold true with MDMA.

[drugs-bunny]

i was just wondering, what is the highest dose of mdma(orany other related chemical)you've ever taken (at once), and also what is the most you've ever taken in 1 night?..


for me it's 160 mg at once, and on that night in total around250 mg

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by drugs-bunny

i was just wondering, what is the highest dose of mdma (or any other related chemical) you've ever taken (at once), and also what is the most you've ever taken in 1 night?..

swim says:

I must have had over 200 mg at once, maybe even 300, in the form of pills. Four of them. That night I also drank too much water. Not something I want to repeat. Edited by: FrankenChrist

[Blake]

What kind of fake pills could get someone sick i.e. nausea/dizziness
for a short period of time? I've heard from some sources that it's
common for ppl to get sick from E for a short period of time after
taking it. From others, I hear that you're not supposed to feel sick at
all, and if you do, it's probably contaminated. What to believe?

[Nagognog2]

Dizzy and sick sounds like it might be dextro-methorphan (DXM). For some stupid reason, unscrupulous buttheads add this to pills on occasion. Mixing MDMA with DXM is courting a disaster.

[drugs-bunny]

some people just get nauseous after taking anything, be it xtc, mushrooms, 2c-b etc.

[TOcub]

SWIM sometimes as the roll starts to come on, feels a burn in his tummy, and slight nausea.. If SWIM takes more then 3 pills in a night, for a brief time, approx 5 mins, SWIM feels like he's going to vomit, but it all of a sudden goes away and the roll comes back harder then ever..

Worth the brief feeling of illness IMHO.

First time SWIM rolled, was last January at a party for a cousin in a public setting.
Somehow many blue Adidas infiltrated the party and 10 or so were rolling hard before 10 pm..

Since then SWIM has rolled many many times and would never consider a little nausea for a few minutes, worth forgoing a wonderfull eve.

Hope this helps!!

[xpr´k]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Very wierd, I didnt think it would be possible to sleep on XTC. Who knows. To be honest, I dont think you got real X. If it was real you would have felt something, and definitely wouldnt have been able to sleep.

When swim takes his MDMA (and he always buys 100mg or better pills) , theres always a point at which he starts feeling tired but usually this is a prelude to the thing hitting him hard .

[xpr´k]

Originally Posted by Blake

What kind of fake pills could get someone sick i.e. nausea/dizziness
for a short period of time? I've heard from some sources that it's
common for ppl to get sick from E for a short period of time after
taking it. From others, I hear that you're not supposed to feel sick at
all, and if you do, it's probably contaminated. What to believe?

In swim experience (and that all it is) feel sick is usually from taking a to high a dose. You get ALOT visual distortions, shaky eyes in rare cases even halucinations . As a result you start breathing shortly and rapidly and you'll start swallowing. Basicly your swallowing air up to the point your stomach needs to vent and you'll trow up briefly but intense.
The rush afterwards is well worth that short moment of nausea though, swim always says there's nothing better then trowing up on pills...