Speedy parts in GHB - Experiment

[DJ-666]

Hallo everybody,


what do you think, it is maybe possible to add a little speedy part during the synthesis of GHB, to compensate the being-tired-phase?!


SWIM wantsto do a little experiment...to put some stimulatingstuff which is solulable in destilled water with which the pure GHB is stocked up to achieve the wanted amount of liquid.


SWIM thought of 1-benzylpiperazine or ephedrin or maybe other legal to obtaining ingredients which maybe can be used to...


Any ideas???

[Boyv]

Hmmm, I don't think this works. Both drugs will be active in your body; one making you 'tired' and one which is 'speeding' you up. I don't think it's a good idea, just like taking a shitload of downers and meth, they don't match eachother.

[PenguinPhreak]

It should work fine, but it could cause health problems. Mixing
depressants and stimulants can be rather hard on the body at times, so
if you do feel the need to experiment with this take it slow and start
at low doses. If you are just trying to avoid tiredness, I recommend
using caffiene as it is much less likely to cause issues than ephedrine
or BZP.

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[DJ-666]

Caffeine? Hmm...maybe a possibility! I didnt ment Meth or someting else that is potent enough consumed alone, just a easy to abtain legal and cheap stimulating alternative.


Sure, Swim could place some coke or methin it...but nooooooooo, that is flushing the money down the toilet!


Swim asked cause many people whotake alittle upper additionaly to GHB dont have such a bad feeling of sickness and nauseous but the same crazy effectof GHB alone...and of course dont sleep away after takin it.





@Boyv: DJ Promo rulez!

[DJ-666]

Aaaaah, SWIM found very cheap caffeine powder online!!!


SWIM thinks he maybe will do a small synthesis, in which he heaps up the pure GHB with some caffeine-containing-destilled-waterto reach a hard kicking concentration level.


If theres anybody who wants to know how it works or if it works at all, SWIM will post it then. Noe SWIM has to go to his kitchen......

[kaniz]

If your doing G to the point of getting sleepy, you may be doing too much and need to cut back the dose a small bit?



Theres been times I've G'd out while also on meth, so I dont think you
can do too much to get over the 'sleepyness' of doing too much G.

[DJ-666]

OK guys, the results:


SWIM made this little experiment: He used 200ml GBL with 10ml dest. water in one pot, 105gNaOH with 260ml dest. water in another pot, then the known synthesis...bla...bla...bla...! After adding some dest Water in the end he obtained 380ml GHB which had a concentration of 3,5g GHB per 4ml of the resulting liquid. Due to this are about 97-100 servings he added to the destilled water which was given to the pure GHB35g anhydrous powdered caffeine so thatone serving of 4ml contains also 350mg caffeine.


Then SWIM and some of his friendsdid a little tasting round with good gabber-music and the attempt to go to a party after this. Everything was fine, after about 15 minutes the GHB began to act...yeaaah...


Resumee: The sleepy effect of GHB was not as present as with GHB alone, less nausea than SWIM expected, little more stimulated due to the caffeine...and THE BIG SURPRISE: SWIM can drink 4-5 beers WITHOUTANY SICKNESS!!!


Then SWIM and his friends rocked the party...

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[sg43]

Id be careful that sure is a high dose of caffeine, 1g is supposively fatal i would try to stay under 200mg but thats just me.

[DJ-666]

Swim knows...all carefully calculated! Its only 350mg if consumed the whole 4ml NaGHB! Nearly nobody take this amount at all...


SWIM read something about a GHB/BZP mixture...maybe if the stuff comes along he will do a little experiment additionally...

[wingsofazrael]

id like to hear about the experiment when and if it happens. im not much on the psuedo speedballin' effect, but sometimes things workout good...

[DJ-666]

SWIM will report if the synth is done in his dreams. But till now he is just waiting for the BZP. Lazy chinese guys...


SWIM think he will first create a something with about 120-150mg BZP per dose in it.


Any suggestions on the amount of BZP, ideal dose?

[DJ-666]

So it has been done (in SWIMs dreams).


SWIM synthesized some GHB using the standard recipe (120mlGBL, 63g NaOH) and mixed some BZP in it to (in the destilled water wich is used to fill in the wnted amount). With a wanted dose of 3,5g GHB in 4ml he get around 225ml of GHB solution. This are about 57 units "Liquid Ecstasy"(). To the later added 35mldestilled water he dissolved 6g BZP so there is approx. 100mg BZP per unit GHB in it.


SWIM will tell the effects after a careful test with some of his friends...





Greeetz

[Richard_smoker]

I've played around with similar concoctions in the past.


My advice is to stick with the normal, palatable, OTC stimulants like plain old Red Bull.


I know it might be 'klunky' to walk around with bottles rattling in your pockets or whatever, but the original red bull's are REALLY tiny--like about the size of a pocket-sized whiskey bottle.


I buy them here from an ethnic food store. they sell middle-eastern food, falafal, pita bread, stuff like that. You might have to ask the clerk if they have any 'energy drink' that comes in a little bottle.


the stuff is kinda like regular redbull but it's in a little glass bottle with some kind of arabic letters on it and it tastes like sweet cough syrup. it's got caffeine as well as some other caffeine-like uppers like theobromine and theophylline. you could mix your G in those and screw the tops back on.


This is something that SWIM is going to do as soon as he gets his hands on some G again... hell, i'm pretty sure that syruppy goodness would cover up the shitty taste of BDO or GBL as well... I know it does a decent job of covering up the taste of most crushed up products...