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Old 16-04-2006, 06:06
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You should look into Meth.. .. naa just kidding

You can find the bad health effects for any stimulant if you look for it. from caffiene you can go to Ephedrine still but like anything you can't use it every day without the dose going up and with 200mg of Guafa-pukin with each 25mg of ephedrine your not going to do that for long. Plus once you pass two pills of ephedrine with 200mg caffiene you're tinkering a little to far with the ticker over your lifespan.

Really not many options here. Ritalin or an amphetamine or about as good as it gets in the world of prescription legal substances and there is risk to the heart there as well. I love Coca leaves and feel that it is by far the best daily tea but here in the US forget it.
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I have personally witnessed someone have an extremely toxic reaction from yohimbe bark and alcohol. Complete with plummeting blood pressure and collapse. Be careful.
Just as a sidenote: I know alcohol and MAOIs are real dangerous, but why is it? I can't see much of a danger since alcohol(at least I think) doesn't raise remarkably indole- or catecholaminelevels and it wouldn't result to anything like serotonin syndrome. Propably dopamine levels are up but I don't FEEL it as being threat. So what's the deal with these two?
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The pharmacology of alcohol is still widely disputed, so it's not going to be conclusive exactly how an MAOI reacts with alcohol on a negative level.
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Argh, I haven't yet familiarized myself the fact that everything is not known in that field so it always makes me anxious . Somehow this seemed like a thing to be known, MAOIs effect being relatively simple and alcohol well studied.

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