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LSA seeds LSA containing seeds like Morning Glory, Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, Rivea corymbosa

 
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Old 28-01-2010, 21:47
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How to extract LSA from morning glory/HBWR seeds...

SWIM found the following and decided to post it here:
by Anonymous D
In this little HOW TO, I am going to show you how to extract the LSA from a batch of Morning Glory, or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. Here is what you will need.

A few jars
Coffee Grinder
Coffee Filters
Pure Naphtha or some Toluene. (I used Toluene)
3500 Morning Glory seeds OR 125-150 HBWR seeds
Some strong alcohol. I used Ever Clear. If you cant get that, Ive heard that Bacardi 151 will also work.
Time

Step one. Get the seeds


Step two: Grind the seeds.
You need to grind them almost into a powder. But not too much. If you grind them so much that they go through the coffee filter, then well, you are screwed.
I got this grinder from Wal-Mart for $15




Step Three: Soak the seeds
This is one of the parts you need to really pay attention to. There are some solvents you DO NOT want to use. Mainly because they leave a residue when they evaporate and you dont want that. I used Toluene and it evaporated very clean. You cant put too much of the Toluene (or what ever you use), just make sure there is enough to cover the seeds. I let this sit for about 24 hours, shaking it when I passed by it.



That layer between the liquid and the seeds is just really really fine ground up seeds. You DO NOT want to ground them all up like that, but some will. If you do them all that fine then most of the seeds will go right throught the coffee filter.

Step Four: Let the seeds dry.

Pour the seeds out throught a coffee filter and get as much of the solvent out as possible. I used two coffee filters and squeezed it to get most of it out.
Then spread the seeds out in thin layers on whatever you want. I used paper plates so I could just throw them away. Let it dry over night.
[h]There shoud be no smell of solvents left once the seeds are dry. If you smell solvent then they are not done drying, or you used the wrong stuff.[/h]





Step Five: Soak the seeds in the Alcohol.

After the seeds are completely dry and free of any solvent smell, pour them in a jar and then put some alcohol in. You are supposed to put 50 mL of alcohol in, but with 3500 seeds its impossible. I just poured it in till I had enough. We will get to how to get around this obstacle later.




Step Six: Wait

Step Seven: Strain the alcohol.

This is where you will learn from others mistakes. USE HBWR seeds. If you use Morning Glory you have to use 3500, and trying to get all the alcohol out of that is impossible. I probably lost more than I got.



Step Eight: Get the dirt out.
There will be alot of that fine powder in your liquid. Let it sit till it all settles then pour the liquid out, leaving the dirt. I did this a few times, rinsing inbetween pours to get all the dirt out. When I was done, I took the dirt I had left and made what I call a "trash hit" Basically putting the dirty stuff in its own container and saving that just incase.



In this picture you can see the dirt I had left. I used a small syringe and sucked it up around the dirt, then pouring the rest of the dirt out.

Step 9: Let the alcohol evaporate. (You can skip this step and go out and drink the alcohol if you want. But I had to use more than the 50 mL of alcohol, so I wouldnt have been able to tell what was one dose, so I just let it all evaporate.)
You will be left with this yellowish brown gunk. THIS is what you want.



Then if you want ( I wouldn't recommend it. Its hard as hell to do unless you have the right tools) you cna put the gunk in gel caps.


I should be able to do it this weekend and Ill let you guys know how it goes. Untill then, I am keeping it cool and in a dark place because LSA will last longer like that. I have it in my mini fridge.

I probably missed something, so if you have something to add, feel free.

Please add info on removing oils, if wanted (naptha anyone?)

Last edited by 0utrider; 30-01-2010 at 13:50.
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Old 29-01-2010, 20:32
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Re: How to extract LSA from morning glory/HBWR seeds...

SWIM'd guess making LSH from this would be simple by using peppermint oil when making the extract at some point convenient.. please correct SWIm about that (swim thinks the LSH topic is quite uncertain). would be very much appreciated if SWIY could elaborate on when and how to a x substance to make LSH instead of LSA ..

Some advice on that would be nice!

Similarly, SWIM plans on doing this soon. He'll find out x g/amount of HWBWR seeds are y trips. However, if he does this on a bigger scale (e.g. for 10-20 trips or so), how easy is it to find out the dosage of this type of extract? How much will be wasted during this, percent wise? Is there any way to predict it? Or should he just stick to the initial dosing i.e. when then seeds were not extracted?!

Also, does anyone know wheter storing in the capsule 1) doesnt dissolve the capsule and 2) how to store the lsa/lsh and how long it can be stored?!

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Old 30-01-2013, 03:35
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Re: How to extract LSA from morning glory/HBWR seeds...

BUMP

I will be doing this tek soon with HBWR.
How well does this method work?
Should I just do like 10 seeds or like a hundred at a time?
It'd be nice to get the final product in powder form.
Any thoughts, suggestions?

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Re: How to extract LSA from morning glory/HBWR seeds...

You could just extract 10 HBWR seeds or you could do a larger scale extraction. The down side to doing such a small extraction is that it is sort of a waste of time, especially when a cold water extraction will often suffice for small amounts of HBWR. A large scale extraction is more time efficient, but you will lose a slightly larger proportion of actives in the extraction process and some of the active compounds will degrade during storage. So it is up to you.

Also, don't expect to be able to produce a powder using a kitchen chemistry type of tek. You will need more solvents, equipment, and time in order to produce a powder. And you will necessarily lose a lot of actives in the process. Plus, it is illegal to posses such a pure concentrated extract of LSA in the US. You're gonna have to be happy with goo.

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