RC Bounce?

[oldman]

okay i've posed a similar question in a couple of forums without getting a response. hopefully one of you fellas will notice this and give swim some insight. Has anyone had any experience/success with taking 2 rc's like a phenethylmine followed 5-7 hours later by a tryptamine?


More specifically swimis interested in a low dose, 10-12mgs of 2ci, followed by 6-8mgs of 5meo-mipt.no, he isn't attempting the heroic, nor is he wishing to speak to god. It just would make the whole day flow like magic if it worked. The second dose is more important to him than the first so if he gets some negative feedback he will ixnay the first trip of the day.


Even if someone had knowledge of any phenethyl followed several hours later by any tryp would be good feedback, or enough for him to ponder the discision. He just wants to make sure it's not likelsd where you only get one trip a dayandwhen the rides over you can't take another. you can't bounce.At least that's the way lsd is for him.


He isexperienced with both chems. and has found that low doses are positive experiences and have very little body load. His hypothesis is that each of these chems. works from a different site in the brain and therefore may possibly work. but he's no brain surgeon either.


I have read through all15 pages of the RC postings and have found no posting that resembles this combo even closley. If you tell me it'll give him a massive headache I'll tell him to scratch the idea.

[sg43]

SWIM and his friends once dosed 20mg of 2ci, followed by 10mg of
5meo-mipt 8 hours later the following morning, the visuals just slowly
subsided and then he shifted into the the body high of 5meo-mipt untill
the mid-day.

[Sick Jack]

I had recently an experience with 15-17 mg of 5-meo-mipt (2 times ~8mg, with 4-5h of interval) and then 20mg of 2ct2, approx. 5-6 hours after the first 5-meo-mipt dose.

Hard to say if both compounds had any real synergy anyway (party setting is perhaps not the best place for such considerations...), but at least I hadn't any bad reaction.

[serpent]

ive mixed lots of different ones together,last week had 2cd,2ci,4-aco mipt,4-aco dipt and mdma,all in 24 hours.i dont experience that much cross tolerance,as after 3 days on the above,plus also dpt,5-meo dmt,nn dmt and 2cc,i was able to dose 20 mgs of 2ce and snorted 120mgs ketamine,which left me completely twazocked for about 8 hours,with the most intense visuals id encountered in the whole 4 day festival.

[oldman]

thanks all, swim willrelay trip report on this maybe. does'nt sound like there are too many negative experiences anyway.

[oldman]

swim began one sunday upon arriving at a museum at 10:00 am he dosed 13mgs. of 2ci in a gel cap on emptystomach with h2o.


t=45 began to feel first sign of relaxation, mild body buzz. little nausea.


t=2 hours, take tour of mansion for one hour, insighful, little bit tired at end.


t=5 hours pretty normal. baseline, not the most rewarding exp. but probably would try at slightly higher level next time.


t=6 hours take 9 mgs 5meo-mipt with wife very rewarding, euphoric, good buzz, slight trembling,


t=11 hours take 6mg lunesta and fall asleep.


overall good exp. but would rther stick to one substance with a supplement at 2 hours swim says

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by serpent

ive mixed lots of different ones together,last week had 2cd,2ci,4-aco mipt,4-aco dipt and mdma,all in 24 hours.i dont experience that much cross tolerance,as after 3 days on the above,plus also dpt,5-meo dmt,nn dmt and 2cc,i was able to dose 20 mgs of 2ce and snorted 120mgs ketamine,which left me completely twazocked for about 8 hours,with the most intense visuals id encountered in the whole 4 day festival.

Sounds like a fun time you had there!

[VictorBorge]

Maybe it's just me but I've felt for a while that tryptamines are more prone
to tolerance than phens, at least in my lab rat. Thus if I were to "bounce"
like this I would administer the tryp first, followed by the phen. However,
experientially that seems like the wrong order, as phens are for waking
and trypts are for smoothly gliding into the night (in my opinion).

In general I prefer combining phen with phen and trypt with trypt though,
just makes for a more unified experience. Although LSD can provide kind
of a bridge between the two.

[fatal]

Originally Posted by VictorBorge

Maybe it's just me but I've felt for a while that tryptamines are more prone
to tolerance than phens, at least in my lab rat.

funny enough people have reported to me that they have felt such heavy tolerance from repeated 2C-I use that they fell asleep when it started to come up to the peak. different strokes for different folks(wow that sounds corny...)

[big-lester]

SWIBL will probably be doing a combo like this tonight: 4-aco-mipt + 2c-b, but it will also include acid.

SWIBL has done a 2c-b + mushroom combo, so that is a phen with a tryp, first the 2c-b, then 4 hours later the mushrooms, it was a pretty nice experience, but maybe SWIBL should've taken the mushrooms sooner.

[nanobrain]

falling asleep on a heavy dose of a psychedelic is not an uncommon psychologiclal defense defense mechanism when material of a less than confy nature tends to surface.

this one doctor i know witnessed a heavy big ol' boy fall asleep and remain so, snoring, bout an hout after a TMA-6 / 8mg DOC and 400 mikes of bush (high quality) acid.

but 2C-I is one of the worse in the bunch, i opine, and there is an intuition of a hint of yet yet-hidden health hazard.

[Nagognog2]

"
but 2C-I is one of the worse in the bunch, i opine, and there is an intuition of a hint of yet yet-hidden health hazard."

Can you explain this a bit more fully?

[fatal]

read the survey on 2C-I by IB. It seems like a very high percentage of users report unpleasant effects resulting from taking 2C-I. swim has not confirmed these negative effects with his research but has seen a couple cases of a negative reaction. the bodyload seems to be reported by many users as being heavy and/or unpleasant. this is probably what nanobrain is referring to as far as underlying health effects.