Rate drugs on a scale from 1-10

[vhalin]

How would your monkeys & marmosets rate certain drugs on a scale from 1-10?





For mine its


alchy: 3


weed: 4


xtc: 8


dxm: 7


coke: 7


No combos allowed combos feel too good.

[dr.gonzo]

Weed - 1 (nowadays, it just makes swim really sick and paranoid)
Dxm - 6
Coke - 9
Ecstasy - 6
Alcohol - 9
Mushrooms - 5 (I usually like to know what's going on)
Lsd - 6
Meth - 7 (would probably be higher if it werent for the terrible come-down)
Codeine - 7
Hydrocodone - 9
Benzos - 10
Heroin - 10
Oxycontin - 10

[sands of time]

Swim says...

Weed: 7.5
Pharma amphetamines: 8
Pharma opiates: 6
Ritalin: 3.5
Kratom: 6.5
MDMA: 9
Coke: 7
Salvia: 5
Ayahuasca: 5.5
Mescaline cacti: 6.5
DXM: 2
Methylone: 8
Tobacco: 1
Alcohol: 5
Mushrooms: 7
Benzos: 6Edited by: sands of time

[ambrosius]

SWIM says:


Alcohol: 5/10 (eh...nothing special)


Opiates: 5/10 (something's missing)


Weed: 4/10 (boring by itself)


Shrooms: 6/10 (not enough of a mindfuck)


LSD: 8/10 (only good in large quantities)


Coke: 5/10 (productive, but too short acting)


Crack: 4/10 (WHEEEEEEEE!!!...where'd my money go?...)


Salvia: 6/10 (Bizarre and fun, but not very recreational)


DXM: 5/10 (if it weren't for the obligatory vomiting fit)


X: 8/10 (would be 10, but it loses its magic)


AMT: 10/10 (I miss you )


Meth: 8/10 (Wow...what a crash...)


Ephedrin: 6/10 (Icky crash)


Given the list, any recommendations for SWIM? He's currently waiting on some 2C-I to experiment with. His favorite thing the effects X has on music.Edited by: ambrosius

[pokeymcsmot420]

Nicotine- 0/10 does nothing for swim, if anything the buzz is negative.


Booze- 3/10 Swim doesnt really like the buzz at all (its so cheap feeling), but its gotta get at least 3 cuz its always there and its the first choice for most in time of crisis.


amphetamines- 2/10 Swim finds no recreational value in amphetamines but gives them 2 because they serve a purpose when you need to stay awake for hours.


meth- 3/10 basically same as amphetamines but with a much stronger rush and perhaps a sense of power.


DXM- 6/10 personally swim is not into to DXM whatsoever it just isnt his thing, however I have to give it a good rating because its easily obtainable and psychedelic, pyscedelics lead to insight and peoples perspectives changing for the better. Wish I enjoyed it myself.


mushrooms- 8.5/10 swim has had some of the best most beautiful times of his life on shrooms. he considers them verry euphoric and insightful with little downsides. I reccomend everyone trip in with one week of reading this.


coke- 5.5/10 unbeatable high, but very shortlasting and the comedown greatly outweighs the buzz.


E 9/10 beautiful drug, one of the best ever, would give it a ten except you burn out on it and its so hard to find a pure tablet.


opiates. 9.5/10 very good feeling, makes you greatly content and comforatablewith everything, no bigcrash, about everything you could possible want. just WATCH OUT FOR ADDICTION, without that it would be a 10


marijuana. 10/10 the bread and butter of the drug world, the building block of healthy drug use. IDK i could ramble here, but i love it and everyone knows the shit.

[ashuricci]

SWiM dot understand how people dont all rate weed at 10 as an all rounder its more of a life style than a drugs


any way


Hash: 10


Skunk: 10


Grass : point less 2 me


LSD:9/10 couldnt really do it every day like weed (hence 9) but isnt so much a drug as the closest thing to the answer ( or more questions)


alot more natural feeling inside than shrooms but slightly grogy and weird....and sore back ??? any of u get that when u coming down


Coke:9 great if use correctly (too moreish so ), a tiny but empty on the inside not natural feeling ( a shit load more than speed but still has that feeling inbetween lines, and get bored abit too quickly nd expencive otherwise would be higher


shrooms: 5 free and uncontrollable and will always have a yearly supply here but grogy and dirty and not as controllable as acid, why shrooms when there is acid?


alcahol:6/7 very funny and loose and socialably aceptible so is always a good one just makes me a worse person than normal when the rest make mebetter


Exticy: 7/8 the first feeling amasing then after awhile your body doesnt react aswell ( pills in my area are shit and havnt done enough pure md so cant comment properly)


laughing gas: 6/7 funny as fuck great on pill a bit groggy if done too much trips are nuts all gas trips are nuts just gasses are dogy but some of the crziest trips have been on gas and (coming in and out of conciousness) the only ones if cant trell if im tripping or not ( acid i know im underthe influence)


vallies are always good to bring u down


and havnt tried dpt enough to comment, but has any body elce done it ? did u get really really deep ears?

[sands of time]

ashuricci, not everyone reacts the same with a given drug. Marijuana has been known to cause paranoia in some people, and not everyone enjoys the hazy, confused state it can put you in.

Reputation Comments on this post:

So very true, good observation

[ashuricci]

yeah i do know that sorry for seeming closed minded i was more joking than anythign elce just most drugs feel like you have another chemical in u slightly wrong on the inside were weed is deep and natrual to your body mine atleast maby no in the head there is paranoia but surly part of the lession is weed is to learn how to controll your own mind not to be paranoid surely thats were most people learn from drugs in there mission to try and be normal then u really question what normal is

[ocean moca]

Swim has limited experience but says:
Weed5 to 8
mdma10
mushrooms 3 to 5
caffeine4
alcohol*3.5
blue lotus2
salvia3 to 8

All this depends on swim's dosage and intention, trust and resistance at
the time.
Values are based on how close to being at one with the vastness
of Being.

Noticed San Pedro is hardly mentioned. Why is that?
Edited by: ocean moca

[Bajeda]

DMT - 10
Cannabis - 9.5 (10 for hash, 8.5 for weed)
Alcohol - 6
Salvia Divinorum - 3
LSD - 8
Psilocybin Shrooms - 7
Amanitas Muscaria - 7.5
Nicotine - 2
DXM - 8
MDMA - 10
Amphetamine - 4
Heroin - 2
Opium - 7.5
Other Narcotics - 4
Benzodiazepines - 1
Sinicuichi - 6 (swim's still experimenting with it)
LSA Seeds - 6.5
Cocaine - 3


Definitely forgetting some stuff, but thats what came to mind as I wrote this for swim.

Its interesting how one's rating or liking of a particular drug can change with a single experience though.

[Bajeda]

I love how different everyones' answers are. Its like music, its extremely hard to find people with the exact same tastes, and most people have pretty different yet diverse tastes.

It would be cool if there was a special type of poll where you could input the rating in for each substance so the total average rating of the drug by the forum would show up.

[zera]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

It would be cool if there was a special type of poll where you could input the rating in for each substance so the total average rating of the drug by the forum would show up.

<Math Nerd>
Since the numbers in this thread are ordinal (that is to say subjective, or more specifically arbitrary in magnitude) rather than cardinal (something that's a true measure of magnitude, like weight or height) finding the mean of the numbers is meaningless from a statistical viewpoint. This is the same reason you should never trust anyone who tries to show you a study that computes mean IQ
</Math Nerd>

[Forthesevenlakes]

oxycontin - 10 (it gives more than it takes)
fentanyl - 10 (only person with a religious experience on an opiate. maybe he has temporal lobe epilepsy?)
mushrooms - 10
temazepam - 9
dxm - 9 (kind of leaves swim with more of a mechanical/inorganic feeling than mushrooms)
hydrocodone - 8
diazepam - 8
lorazepam - 8
clonazepam - 8
mdma - 8
alcohol - 7
alzaporam - 7
sodium barbital - 7
morphine - 7
marijuana - 6
buprenorphine - 6
ephedrine - 6
cocaine (powder) - 6
codeine - 6
adderall - 6
nitrous oxide - 6
carisoprodol - 6
heroin - 5
cocaine (crack) - 5
methylphenidate - 5
secobarbital - 5
kratom - 5
tramadol - 5
propoxyphene - 5
loperamide - 5 (sure, it doesnt cross the triple B, but it works wonders for the WDs!)
methamphetamine - 4
gabapentin - 4
caffeine - 4
cyclobenzeprine - 4
lsd - 4 (but it may be time to try it again at a different point in swim's life)
ketamine - 4 (but done during a long dxm run. maybe now swim would enjoy it more)
nicotine - 4 (it takes more than it gives)
salvia - 4
hydromorphone - 4 (why didnt it work for swim? even in high dosages?)
propranolol - 4 (no psychoactivity but works wonders for social anxiety)
kava - 2 (maybe didnt hit a high enough dosage)
ether - 2 (same as kava...)
sertraline - 1
butane - 1
diphenhydramine - 1
acetaminophen - 1

so, whats left for swim to rate? he asks. then swim thinks, ah, all the 2c's, methylone, the fentanyl analogs that no one is actually making, and the holy grail of quaaludes.

EDIT: wow, swims tried alot of things, and most of them are pharmies. and this is only about half his actual 'what has swim done' list. but he needs to jump into that psychedelic realm a bit more. he's ready, for sure.

[Routemaster Flash]

Originally Posted by Forthesevenlakes

acetaminophen - 1

Hahaha, what exactly were you expecting it to do? Let's face it, it's fairly useful if you've got a headache.

[Salvinorin A]

Originally Posted by [B

Forthesevenlakes[/B]]acetaminophen - 1

Did we clarify what the basis is for these ratings? Because depending on what swiy uses the drugs for.....acetaminophen could be a 10.

Sal-A

[Nicaine]

Thanx forthesevenlakes, SWIM forgot that he's done morphine .

BTW, why is Temazepam so high up on SWIY's list? Is it a massive euphoria thing or something? SWIY seems to show a strong preference for the down button on the elevator, that's for sure.

[Forthesevenlakes]

yeah, swim had some major euphoria not characteristic of a benzo with temazepam. same goes for versed, whichever that one is. he has a pretty good distinction between different varieties of opiates and benzos and has distinct tastes in each department. swim almost forgot he did morphine (probably 50-100 times too!) and had to edit that one in last minute.

[eniacoc]

First post here. SWIM says hello

Coke (snorted): 8 - Excellent! but if SWIM thinks, it's a waste. And SWIM means purified, not direct from the dealer's bag.

Coke (freebase): 10 - This bitch tops the score. Love and Hate.

Coke (IV): 9 - SWIM hates the holes, so only 3 times have been done, else it would be 0 and 15 at the same time. Better than the top but worst that the lowest...

LSD: 1 - six years ago was 10 but a really bad situation sent it to the base of the scale. Dangerous shit to play around.

Mushrooms: 6 - easier than LSD but it frightens SWIM because of its similarity.

Hash: 2 - Was 7 but now it makes SWIM paranoid just as the next one

Marijuana: 4 - ...that was 7 but also makes SWIM paranoid, but less than hash.

Alcohol: 5 alone, 8 with snorted coke. Cocaethylene is bad for u though...

MDMA: 8 - but SWIM hates the crash else it would lead the score

Ketamine: 6 - very cool on low doses, on high doses reminds SWIM of LSD and he starts to freak out

PCP: 2 - WTF is this? only had a bad temper, which was cool but deserves no more than this score!

Speed: 8 - Best thing after coke. SWIM wished it was easier on the body

Ephedrine: 7 - Same as above

Nicotine: 1/10 - It's so natural that SWIM can't score it.

2-CB: 4 - SWIM can't be around too many people. Otherwise it's cool.

[Sklander]

10/10 - Weed - Weed is the greatest drug ever. You can never go wrong with smoking a fat spliff of some good grass.
10/10 - DMT - Simply amazing.
10/10 - LSD - A test of your psyche.
9/10 - Mushrooms - Natures Candy.
8/10 - MDMA - Would be a 10, but it looses its magic after prolonged use.
6/10 - Alcohol - Legal... Would be lower if it were illegal...
6/10 - Opiates - SWIM hasn't IVed Herion, so his point of reference isn't all there...
4/10 - Xanax and other Benzo's - Great for calming you down in a bad situation like with LSD or Mushrooms, but SWIM doesn't see much of a fun factor with these chemicals. You can't beat a Bar if you just WANT IT TO STOP!

[Fantasian]

DMT - 9 = Woah fuck, not much else can explain it
MDMA - 9 = Pure Intense bliss woah, comedown makes it drop one
MDA - 8.5 = Slightly decreased pure intense bliss lol
Strong opiates - 8 = Nothing matters, you feel great especically when IV'd but the withdrawal pulls it down 2.
Mushrooms - 7.5 = Hit your mind with a train for 7 hours and see how the world looks.
Weak opiates - 4 = Mildly pleasent buzz but sickly the next day
Cannabis - 4 = Tiredness and stonedness, alright but pretty boring and not that euphoric
Ketamine - 4 = I imagine jumping into a big hole while spinning would feel similar
Cyclizine (&other delirents) = 4 Get your big brass balls and Live out a nightmare!
Benzodiazepines - 3 = annnnnnnnnd sleep! Wake up 20 hours later wondering what happened
Alcohol - 2 = feel sick and get tired, wow what a drug
Nicotine - 1 = Get a headache and err.. um..

SWiF cant think of others atm but is pretty tired.

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Love the descriptions!

[nwpsychonaut]

According to SWIM

~Stimulants~
Methamphetamine: 8.5/10

Cocaine: 9.5/10

Crack: 9/10(better for swiy to make themselves than buy, very fun)

Adderall: 9/10

Caffeine 2/10

Concerta: 7/10

~Hallucinogens~

Mushrooms(psilocybin): 9/10

DOB: 9.5/10

DXM: 6/10

Diphenhydramine: 5/10

Coleus Blumei: 3/10

Salvia Divinorum Fortified leaf: 9/10

Morning Glory Seeds(LSA): 8.5/10

~Opiates/Opioids~

Heroin: 10/10

Hydrocodone: 6/10

Oxycodone: 7/10

Propoxyphene: 5.5/10

Codeine: 5/10

~Various other pills~

Valium: 6.5/10

Clonidine: 3/10(swim has always on hand incase of stimulant emergencys)

Trazedone: 5/10

Wellbutrin: 2/10(swim didnt like it, made him feel empty but intensified THC)

~Other shit~

Cannabis:6/10(gets old now thats swims explored other drugs, but its always there for him when times get rough)

Hash: 7/10

Alcohol: 4/10(swim is not a big fan of alcy)

Kava Kava Extract: 4/10(relaxing but not much)

Dust-Off: 3/10(too bad for swim to be worth it)

Diethyl Ether: 4/10(also very bad, DEVIL ETHER)

Nicotine: 2/10(worthless but addicting)

MDMA: 9/10

[Omelet]

Nicotine: 1/10, bleh.

Alcohol: 6/10, It's nice on occasion, but if you do too much, it's just gross feeling...

Weed: 9.5/10... completely rounded, the perfect drug... the only problem is that it smells, so you can't do it in a public restroom or the like...

Morning Glory: 2/10... nasty stuff, and it barely had any trippy effects at all.

DXM (robotussin): 4/10... SWIM only tried it once, and it wasn't enough to get CEVS, but it was more than enough to make SWIM vomit.

Psilocybin: 8.5/10... a truely excellent drug, but it's not something SWIM could see himself doing all that often.

Anonymous Research Chemical (sold as mescaline): 7/10... This was pretty fun, SWIM felt like time slowed down and he couldn't fully comprehend most of what was going on around him... I'd still like to know what the hell this actually was though...

[teddybearpicnics]

~Stimulants~
Methamphetamine: 0/10 such a pointless drug, other than cleaning, or crazy projects like work or something crazy you think of while on meth that deserves days of attention

Cocaine: 6/10 comedown sucks, but the high is so nice...it gives more than it takes though so thats why i rated better than halfway

Crack: 1/10 gross, dirty, nasty

Adderall: 0/10 same as meth

Caffeine 8/10 coffee rocks



~Hallucinogens~

LSD: AMAZING! 10/10

Mushrooms(psilocybin): 9/10

DXM: 10/10 psychedelic heroin to swim, went through a huge phase with DXM, and swim LOVED every second of it, CEV extraordinarre.

Diphenhydramine: 5/10 neurotoxic at its best, nothing like going skitzo for a few hours

Salvia Divinorum Fortified leaf: 3/10, not recreational, but very intense spiritual...not swims thing.

Morning Glory Seeds(LSA): 2/10 never saw anything great in them

2-ci - 10/10 best trip ever, read my report.

5-meo-dmt - 7/10, Very intense spiritual guiding, and overall psyche motivater.

5-meo-amt - 4/10, Didn't do enough to get full effects.

~Opiates/Opioids~

Heroin: 10/10 best feeling ever

Hydrocodone: 2/10 worst opiate made

Oxycodone: 9/10 amazing if you i.v an oxy but too expensive

Hydromorpine: 12/10 OHHHH MYYYY GOOODDD

Codeine: 5/10

Morphine: 6/10 eeehhhh

Fentanyl: 7/10 weird

~Various other pills~

Valium: 6.5/10 least favorite benzo

Trazedone: 8/10 if you need to fall asleep, here's god

k-pins: 8/10 loveeeee

xanax: 10/10 can't wait to get my script!


~Other shit~

Cannabis:10/10 the best friend in the drug world...gives so much, takes so little.

Hash: 10/10 depends on what kind, hash oil and bubble hash are what get the 10 rating

Alcohol: 9/10 swim loves to drink

Dust-Off: 3/10 ewwwww

Nicotine: 20/10 need my cigs

MDMA: 9/10 LOVE e-pills and molly, yummy

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by teddybearpicnics

Cocaine: 6/10 comedown sucks, but the high is so nice...it gives more than it takes though so thats why i rated better than halfway

Crack: 1/10 gross, dirty, nasty

SWIM was curious about this statement. To SWIM, coke feels much nastier than crack. With coke that shit is all up in your nose and sinuses for a long ass time compared to crack, you are up all night, the comedown is horrible, etc.

The high with crack seems much cleaner. It is a better feeling / rush, and then goes away much nicer and quicker.

[chAos]

mushrooms 9 (hawaiian/Mckennai 9.5, colombian 9, mexican 8) Best thing swim ever crossed The only reason this didn't get a 10 is because swim still has to try DMT and lsd
weed/hash 8: nice to do every day
XTC 8: very great feeling but swim rather sees colors
DOI 7 (i'm not really sure it was that ) To long upcoming and to long in general, nice CEV's but no mind-fuck like from mushrooms.
Absinth 6: like alcohol but funner, only it always ends with me being really, really wasted
DXM 5.5: It was very fun, but it isn't swim's kind of drug.
Alcohol 5: Although i have done really stupid things on alcohol, it's still a heavy and fun drug.
Wild lettuce aka laurette opium 4: A plant and a downer, not really my thing, then i rather smoke a good joint, that get's you lazy to.
Salvia 3: Swim didn't get enough effects out of it, but he might try it again.
glue 2: it kills your mind and you feel a little bit drunk or so
Nicotine 2: Only fun when really drunk.
Nitrous 0: Swim doesn't see the fun in a minute of sweating and ultra fast heart beats.