Peyote growing help

[Nevering]

I've done some searches but haven't found anything specific. I was wondering about the growing basics for peyote. Amount of light, temp, watering (I think I know this one... dry soil before next water). Can you mist them, is it better to mist rather than water soil, one site mentioned this to be the case.


The soil mix is 50% pumice, 25% compost, 25% sand, with some volcanic rock, greensand, bat guano (high phosphorous), and dolomite.


The plants are getting some splits on the sides and some are wrinkling and getting a bit soft.


I'm not giving the much light and temp has been around 70-80.


Can anyone point me to some good growing basics that cover the whole spectrum please.





thanks

[transit]

Originally Posted by Nevering

I think I know this one... dry soil before next water

That
would be an appropriate watering schedule for san pedro, however, in swim’s
reading and experience, that is too much for peyote. </span>Swim waters his peyote every three to four
weeks during the growing season and not at all over the winter – If he noticed
any shriveling he would water sooner.


Some people try to speed up the growing process with more
water, but that risks splitting and rot unless done just right.


As such, number one suggestion would be to stop watering for
awhile.


Also bat guano has a reputation of being high in nitrogen
which would be good (if not too much) for san pedro, but might be a problem for
peyote.

[Dexy Mcfukfuk]

peyote is a very slow grower isnt it? It seems that growing it would be quite a devotement of time.

[Nevering]

Transit, thanks..


All these 2-3 cm plants are in the same pot, a couple are shriveling while a couple are cracking and have small holes. So some say water, others say don't if I read you correctly.


The bat guano that I have says high phosophorous on the box, with is recommended by the peyoteway church, as is the mix that I'm using.


I'm also wondering if peyote can benefit from more direct like year round, like in a green house environment?


Also, what about misting while they are in this stage. Somewhere I read this was a good idea, but can't find the site now.


thanks

[cactus]

if its soft to touch and the soil is dry, water it. misting is only necessary for seedlings, with a full grown plant you give it heaps when you water it (at least untill its coming out the bottom). it should have good drainage so providing you let it completely dry before re-watering you wont have any issues. in summer i would water mine every 2-4 weeks.

[Nevering]

I think this is the page


http://www.peyoteway.org/peyoteway/P...the%20Seed.htm


Water
Peyote loves being watered and fertilized during the hot weather. When the soil mixture has good drainage it can be watered twice a week and fertilized once a month. I also know of commercial growers who mist their plants with plant food daily. The fine misting moistens the surface of the plant and seems to provide sufficient nourishment. Water should be withheld when the environment gets cold, as it does here at the Church and in Peyote’s natural environment. The plants seem to due well when allowed to go dormant for a month or two. Keep cool and dry.

[transit]

Originally Posted by Nevering

a couple are shriveling while a couple are cracking and
have small holes. So some say water, others say don't if I read you correctly.

I have only had mild shriveling occur due to lack of watering; however, I
have read of shriveling also occurring following cracking due to over
watering. </span>I am guessing that your
watering when the soil is dry has resulted in more frequent watering than the
every 3-4 weeks that I suggested above or the every 2-4 weeks that Cactus
suggested during the summer. </span>It seems
very unlikely that your peyote are suffering from a lack of water (they can go
quite awhile without water) and much more likely that they have been over
watered. </span>Under watering will take a very
long time to kill them; over watering can kill them much more quickly. </span>So I would cut out all watering for a few
weeks. </span>




The peyoteway advice may work great, however, given the cracks and holes
that you report, I think you need to focus on recovery, not on an intensive growing
program.




As for misting it may be a good idea for later, but I wouldn’t want to get
those cracks or holes wet right now.
</span>Also if you are going to try misting, I recall reading somewhere that
when misting cacti one should do so at night due to their skins being sealed
off during the day so as to avoid water loss in hot environments, thus presumably
also preventing water uptake. </span>However, I
have no experience with misting cacti.




Good luck with them and please let us know what happens




Edited by: transit

[Nevering]

Thanks for your help. These are fairly new and freshly planted. I'm sure they are still adjusting to the new environment. I just hope that I don't kill them before they take off.


For history... I've planted about 2 weeks ago after delivery and basically have only misted them about every 3 days.


On your advice I'll stop misting and see what happens.


thanks

[cactus]

nevering: after repotting a plant i wouldnt give it any water for at least three weeks and dont give it direct sun. You need time for the roots to repair, they wont drink anything during this time.


Unless you live in the arizona dessert i would advise not watering twice a week.Idont even water my peyote which are under a 1000w MH more than once weekly.

[Nevering]

Cactus


How many hours do you do the 1000w lights for and do you do them year round ?


thanks

[cactus]

The lights are on for 18 hours. And yes all year round butthey really dont grow quick enough to have them under a light all by themselves if you know what i mean.


And say hypothetically you were to grow weed aswell the peyotewould adapt to the routine (6 weeks 18 hours, 6 weeks 12) aswell as the food.

[Nevering]

what is the reason for 18 hours of light? Will they grow faster, larger, or you just have them with other plants ?





thanks

[cactus]

They are with other plants but 18 hours is perfect for vegetation. If you drop the amount of hours they will barelygrow but they will still flower. i guess it depends on what you want, size or seeds.

[Nevering]

mescaline producing flesh

[cactus]

what i do is grow them for around 18 weeks then put them into flower for 4-5 weeks, collect heaps of seeds and continue growing. then every six months or so you have enough seeds to start another tray. dont eat the big ones, they flower more and produce more seeds per flower. only eat the ones you hatched.

[Nevering]

So do you use the sodium lights for flowering ?