Spiritual - ketamine and NDEs

[buzz]

I´ve been reading how ketamine can reproduce NDEs,you know,first you see thewhite light at the end of the tunnel and then youenter it,and I´d like to see for myself,I have 300mg of Ketalar for injection waiting.


The thing is,I don´t know what an NDE dosage would be ,according to what I read It must be between a K-hole dosage and an anaesthetic one.


I searched this site and Erowid but couldn´t find anything


Has any of you had an NDE on ketamine,how much did you take?

[Sklander]

If you want to have an NDE you need to smoke some DMT. K is a dissosiative drug. A good does to get you to the K hole is 100 mg IM. Good luck and be safe.

[JewishNazi]

actually, it has been found that during 'death', brain cells excrete a chemical which is extremely close in structure to ketamine. This is why people report seeing Larry and others before they are brought back.





NB. Larry is God's first name, he told me so himself

[Loser]

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NB. Larry is God's first name, he told me so himself[/QUOTE]



no way dude.... my first name is not Larry... I musta been on something if i ever told u that...

[dogcow]

My granfather wrote a short book on his near-death experience and mentioned ketamine being able to reproduce the hypoxia state. Although he believes this is not actually true, he reported there was some interesting scientific research being done on the subject. He mentioned one of the scientists names so I google'd him.


A quick cursory google search returned this :


Near-death experiences (NDE's) can be reproduced by ketamine via blockade of receptors in the brain (the N-methyl-D-aspartate, NMDA receptors) for the neurotransmitter glutamate. Conditions which precipitate NDE's (hypoxia, ischaemia, hypoglycaemia, temporal lobe epilepsy etc.) have been shown to release a flood of glutamate, overactivating NMDA receptors resulting in neuro ('excito') toxicity. Ketamine prevents this neurotoxicity. There are substances in the brain which bind to the same receptor site as ketamine. Conditions which trigger a glutamate flood may also trigger a flood of neuroprotective agents which bind to NMDA receptors to protect cells, leading to an altered state of consciousness like that produced by ketamine.


Full text of the article : http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/jansen1.html