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Old 10-01-2010, 04:16
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good idea to take diazepam on mephedrone comedown?

SWIM is feeling pretty harsh after a mephedrone binge. tight chest, acheing heart, anxious, cant sleep and he hasnt dosed in over 13 hours

He got a load of 10mg diazepams, but dosnt really know much about them, and he hasnt tried 1 yet but he was wondering if it would help him fall asleep or ease the comedown , or could it make Him feel worse?

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

Has SWIY ever taken Diazepam before? I'll assume not, and just as a warning: I have no idea about possible dangerous interactions between mephedrone and diazepam, though I suspect there shouldn't be any, especially in the case SWIY describes where his last mephedron dose was so long ago...

In some people diazepam can cause paradoxical effects, however this is usually at slightly higher doses and not very common. Keeping it in mind as a possibility, SWIY might consider taking 5mg diazepam to see how SWIY feels after 20-30 minutes. If it seems to help or as long as things don't get worse, I would suggest perhaps incrementing by 5mg (every 20-30 minutes, that is) up to at most 20mg. Any additional dosage should only be taken as long as SWIY's side effects are improving and SWIY is not experiencing any other problems that he suspects is a result of taking diazepam.

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

Just a brief warning on diazepam usage.
SWIM would recommend SWIY avoids anything but a very small dose of diazepam if SWIY suffers from a sleep disorder called sleep apnea . The condition is common (estimated 20 million sufferers in the USA alone), symptoms include loud snoring, restless sleep, and sleepiness during the daytime, and is characterized by pauses in breathing during sleep. High doses of diazepam (or any muscle relaxant, opiates, alcohol, etc) can be very dangerous and in some cases can lead to full respiratory arrest.

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

SWIM takes Xanax alot after Mephedrone.
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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

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SWIM takes Xanax alot after Mephedrone.
Interesting, SWIM have always managed to avoid Xanax after Mephedrone, but it is only a matter of time I guess before SWIM feels they "need" some.

What kind of doses of Xanax are you taking / would you recommend?

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

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SWIM is feeling pretty harsh after a drone binge. tight chest, acheing heart, anxious, cant sleep and he hasnt dosed in over 13 hours

He got a load of 10mg diazepams, but dosnt really know much about them, and he hasnt tried 1 yet but he was wondering if it would help him fall asleep or ease the comedown , or could it make Him feel worse?
If SWIY's comedowns are so harsh maybe SWIY should consider reducing how long SWIY binges for or better still stop binges altogether.
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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

swim saays 5mg of vallium/diazepam should be more than plenty ( half of a Blue )

Swim suggests 2 x 0.3g doses of mephedrone with 3 to 4 hours between doses!

Any more is just silly in swims opinion

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on drone comedown?

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Interesting, SWIM have always managed to avoid Xanax after Mephedrone, but it is only a matter of time I guess before SWIM feels they "need" some.

What kind of doses of Xanax are you taking / would you recommend?

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After a night out on 1g of Mephedrone, SWIM comes home and will pop about 1mg Xanax once the crash hits and just chills online or cleaning his room for 20 mins and he can go straight to bed. They were purple footballs, branded by Pfizer.

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on mephedrone comedown?

swim took the 10mg of diazepam and they fell asleep for about 4 hours, then they woke up took another diazepam and got about another 5 or 6 hours sleep. definatly helped them out but dont take them too soon after swiy last mephedrone dose as they dont seem to have an effect.

the other day swim took 20mg of diazepam about an hour after my last mephedrone hit and didnt really notice anything

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on mephedrone comedown?

Absolutely, as long as SWIY doesn't have any adverse drug reaction to diazepam (extremely rare). Diazepam is widely used in hospitals to treat certain stimulant overdoses, as well as serotonin syndrome related to hallucinogen overdose, and most meth users take it before going to sleep.

Diazepam not only kills post-stimulant anxiety, but it also lowers hypertension, something mephedrone is particularly infamous for.

My imaginary friend has taken it several times when trying to sleep on amphetamine comwdown or even stopping an amphetamine overdose related panic attack. It has also used it a couple of times (10 mg) when too over-stimulated with mephedrone with no side effects whatsoever.

Just tell SWIY to not take propanolol or drugs alike. Beta blockers may lower your heartbeat by countering beta-adrenergic stimulation, but they won't counter the periferical alpha-adrenergic related vasoconstriction, theresult being SWIY's blood pressure to raise even further, reducing coronary blood flow, cardiac output, etc.

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Re: good idea to take diazepam on mephedrone comedown?

Swim has taken 5-10mg of diazepam on a number of occasions to help him come down after a night on mephedrone. The effect is very calming and relaxing and it's generally pretty easy to chill out and/or sleep as a result.

That person had been prescribed it in the past so was aware of the effects and their reaction to it. He'd suggest to anyone that has never taken diazepam before that they be careful about dosage.
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Re: good idea to take diazepam on mephedrone comedown?

Benzodiazepines like diazepam can certainly take the edge of the after effects of mephedrone and other stimulants, but have a long half life. They can leave one in a stupor for a long time afterwards.

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