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Old 29-12-2009, 21:11
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Best route to inject Heroin for longest effect

Swim's mates cat would like to know.

What is the best way to inject for the longest effect.

Swim's mates cat has only a small amount to use and has 7 days to go before he gets bk on his cats suboxone.

So my mates cat needs to know would it be better to shoot it IM or Sub-C or stick with IV.

Thanks swimmers.
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Old 30-12-2009, 12:34
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Re: Best route to inject Heroin for longest effect

SWIM is almost certain that Sub Q would last the longest, because it will take the longest to absorb. However SWIM would say if you are looking for that happy medium where you get a decent high and it lasts a little longer to go with IM.

Though SWIM has only ever IVed so I really cant say from experience.
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Re: Best route to inject Heroin for longest effect

Swim sees that swiy's in the UK, in which case, swiy is getting heavily cut heroin. If 60% of your 'heroin' is cut, then you've actually got alright gear........it's a sorry state of affairs.

Basically, the vast numbers of impurities and possible bacteria in street heroin make subcutaneous and intra muscular injection very bad ideas.

When you inject into a vein, all the impurities, along with the heroin itself, are immediately moved around the body, where the impurities can be filtered out in the liver/kidneys, which is what they're designed to do.

However, when you SC or IM, the highly unsterile solution just sits there, for hours and hours, only being absorbed into the body very slowly.

While this does mean that it may keep you well for longer, (although without any real high), it also means that the risk of abcesses and infection is really pretty high.
Think about when you miss, it hurts, and leaves a lump which can last days to go down. Sometimes this area becomes very sore, and hot and red. And sometimes it turns into an abcess. Which is horrible.

However, when you miss, generally only a small amount of the unsterile solution is left outside the vein, because when you feel the pain of a miss, you stop injecting.
On the other hand, if your actually using a miss as a route of administration, i.e. SC/IM, then your purposefully injecting a full dose out of the vein. As this is a much greater amount of unsterile solution sitting around agitating and possibly infecting the surrounding tissue, the likeliness of an abcess is greatly increased.

Both IM and SC are intended for completely sterile solutions. Obviously IV is originally intended for this too, however, as explained, injecting an unsterile solution IV, generally causes considerably less damage, as it is considerably easier for the body to filter and break it down immediately.
It's not unheard of for people to use this route, particularly if they're using purer H4, which is water soluble, and generally of greater purity. But likewise, and especially with H3 and tar heroin, it's definetly not unheard of for these people to suffer nasty infections and abcesses.


So in conclusion, swim would advise you to stay away from these routes of admin, as the solution is just too dirty.
Swim would advise swiy to try and buy some methadone, as it's the cheapest way to keep you well. It's certainly what swim would do, it's saved his bacon many times.
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Old 30-12-2009, 15:46
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Re: Best route to inject Heroin for longest effect

This might of some interest to SWIY friend: Tell him to do a search for the following thread by dyingtomorrow

Heroin Tantra: How to Hold That Rush
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Old 30-12-2009, 17:23
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Re: Best route to inject Heroin for longest effect

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Swim sees that swiy's in the UK, in which case, swiy is getting heavily cut heroin. If 60% of your 'heroin' is cut, then you've actually got alright gear........it's a sorry state of affairs.

Basically, the vast numbers of impurities and possible bacteria in street heroin make subcutaneous and intra muscular injection very bad ideas.

When you inject into a vein, all the impurities, along with the heroin itself, are immediately moved around the body, where the impurities can be filtered out in the liver/kidneys, which is what they're designed to do.

However, when you SC or IM, the highly unsterile solution just sits there, for hours and hours, only being absorbed into the body very slowly.

While this does mean that it may keep you well for longer, (although without any real high), it also means that the risk of abcesses and infection is really pretty high.
Think about when you miss, it hurts, and leaves a lump which can last days to go down. Sometimes this area becomes very sore, and hot and red. And sometimes it turns into an abcess. Which is horrible.

However, when you miss, generally only a small amount of the unsterile solution is left outside the vein, because when you feel the pain of a miss, you stop injecting.
On the other hand, if your actually using a miss as a route of administration, i.e. SC/IM, then your purposefully injecting a full dose out of the vein. As this is a much greater amount of unsterile solution sitting around agitating and possibly infecting the surrounding tissue, the likeliness of an abcess is greatly increased.

Both IM and SC are intended for completely sterile solutions. Obviously IV is originally intended for this too, however, as explained, injecting an unsterile solution IV, generally causes considerably less damage, as it is considerably easier for the body to filter and break it down immediately.
It's not unheard of for people to use this route, particularly if they're using purer H4, which is water soluble, and generally of greater purity. But likewise, and especially with H3 and tar heroin, it's definetly not unheard of for these people to suffer nasty infections and abcesses.


So in conclusion, swim would advise you to stay away from these routes of admin, as the solution is just too dirty.
Swim would advise swiy to try and buy some methadone, as it's the cheapest way to keep you well. It's certainly what swim would do, it's saved his bacon many times.
Thanks Swim alot for the info and advice.

Swim knows that being in the UK, that swim's H will be very impure, he has done some muscle pop shots before with good result but not for the fact to hold him longer as he wasnt sure. He has no problems with it regarding abcess and such but also know's he has been very lucky and that is a fact.

Swim has some DHC 30 x 60 bullets so will use these to hold him for his time and untill he get's his subox and will then do a quick taper if he feels mentally up for it, Swim does hope so.

Thanks.

Swimmer S.

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This might of some interest to SWIY friend: Tell him to do a search for the following thread by dyingtomorrow

Heroin Tantra: How to Hold That Rush

Swim does thank swim. But also will say he doesnt want to prolong the rush or buzz. He is after the longest action to keep him well and not withdrawing.

Swim does thank Swim.

Swimmer S.

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Re: Best route to inject Heroin for longest effect

Sub doesn't work for everyone. I just got off the methadone last month (woo go me) I notice that when the pokey stuff comes around I get 10 times the buzz but when you take methadone and are on Suboxone you go straight into withdrawal for some reason. A friend was on it and that is how I know. But there really is no best route. Well except an artery.

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