dose, weed, H

[greg182]

few questions.

1. what is a good IV beginner dose? i' ve read through some threads and i've heard numbers such as:

Originally Posted by GETERDN

I have done dope that only took me .025 gram to get off and then others that took me .25 gram.

i then went to erowid and read that a dose should be 5mg-10mg, converting say 8 mg to a gram is .01 grams, so .025 grams (25mg) would be an overdose? i guess i'm just confused as to what kind of dose i'd be looking at for my first time, and i understand purity is a factor, but all around what is a good number to start with? i mean assuming i'm going to get some decent H. and if say 5-10mg is a decent dose to start with, how the hell do you go about measuring that much powder accurately?

2. after the initial effects, is there a come down like coke? by come down i mean the part where you notice the effects going away, and having feelings of wanting them to come back (ie, wanting to do more coke). and if so, does weed help?

3. are there different levels of withdrawl? i had a buddy who got vicodin after surgery and finished the whole thing (20 pills) in 4 days. he claims the next day he had minor withdrawl symptoms, not anything close to full blown heroin withdrawl, but headaches, trouble sleeping. does weed help with any of this or make it easier?

4. is sniffing the shit you get a good way to test for an IV dose? i'm thinking maybe sniff enough to get fucked up, remember how much it took, then maybe 1-2 weeks later do a little less (then what i sniffed) in an IV. is this a realistic was of finding a good dose?

[icecrew]

afew advices, get a bag shoot half of it if its not as strong as u want
it shoot more, sniffin is a waste comedown is easy on dope..nothin like
X or coke specially crack..for that reason SWIM dont do coke at all

[greg182]

Originally Posted by icecrew

afew advices, get a bag shoot half of it if its not as strong as u want
it shoot more, sniffin is a waste comedown is easy on dope..nothin like
X or coke specially crack..for that reason SWIM dont do coke at all

how much is a bag (in grams)? a lot of people use the lingo bag or half bag, what are the sizes and how much do they usually cost?

[NeedleInTheHay]

have you ever done H before? no offense, but it doesn't really
sound like it. If not, i wouldn't recommend shooting for your
first time, you'd get off just fine snorting it and it would be FAR
safer. If, however, you just HAVE to shoot it....try finding
someone with some experience that you trust to give you your
wings. What i really want to say is DO NOT EVEN FUCKING TRY IT,
but i'm not your mommy. Everybody has to walk their own path i
guess. Just be damn careful.

[greg182]

Originally Posted by NeedleInTheHay

have you ever done H before?* no offense, but it doesn't really
sound like it.*

umm i dont know, didn't i say something about "first time" or "sniffing before trying"?

ps: elliott smith is the man

[Woodman]

Indeed you didn't, greg182.

You simply requested information, though I think
NeedleInTheHay was under the impression that you
were going to use this information in a way that
might prove harmful.

Good job, guys.

[greg182]

Originally Posted by Woodman

Indeed you didn't, greg182.

You simply requested information, though I think
NeedleInTheHay was under the impression that you
were going to use this information in a way that
might prove harmful.

Good job, guys.

1. i'm not going to even quote my shit, i stated that this was my first time.

2. its drug, do you think any type of drug using isn't harmful (to some extent)?

3. its funny how i cant get any information on a DRUG forum without some moral bullshit or somebody dancing around the issue. this is pathetic.

i am an adult, i can make my own fucking choices, all i wanted was for someone with some experience in this area to answer the questions, but yeah, this is a forum, why would that happen here?

[NeedleInTheHay]

A - take it easy.

B - i am not going to waste time quoting myself either, but i believe i said something about not being your parent.

C - I also thought i gave you some advice on how to proceed in
the direction you seem to want to go (i.e.-find someone you trust who's
already done it and have them show you). If it came across some other
way, it wasn't meant to.

D - you made it clear thatit would be your first time shooting, but you
were kind of vague about whether or not it was your first time using H.

E - i had to say that shit about not doing it for me, not for
you. i know you are going to do what you want, but i'm a long way
down the road you have just started traveling on and i wish
someone had said something like that to me before i began. so
every time i hear someone who sounds like they have a chance of turning
back i tell them to do so. i would not be able to live with
myself if i didn't.

F - thanx for recognizing the name...

[Woodman]

Originally Posted by greg182

... i'm not going to even quote my
shit, i stated that this was my first time.

In THAT case, your post was self incriminating and
is NOT allowed.

Please read the rules, and learn how to request
information without incriminating yourself by
announcing your intent.

Originally Posted by greg182

i am an adult, i can make my own fucking choices,
all i wanted was for someone with some experience
in this area to answer the questions, but yeah, this is
a forum, why would that happen here?

This is an open forum, NOT a public forum.

I suggest you learn to recognize the difference
between the two, and respect the rules of this forum.

[bogumil]

I heard from people who use H, that when you never did it before you might want to smoke it because you wont od so easy then. Same with sniffing. I know people preferring sniffing to smoking because when you smoke you loose to much H.


Before you IV you should indeed sniff some to see how strong it is and to find oyur dose.


And about the tip that you should try half a bag first: I know that many give this advice and it might work, but I wouldnt do this. Bags differ in size and strength. So if you get you a bag and there is 0.8 gram of medium strong stuff in it you will have wings forever.


If you want to use first time: Sniff or smoke. If you really have to IV: Buy a bag and snort some the one day to see how much gets you high. Thenget you someone with experience, like suggested above.


Yes, there are stages of withdrawal. It is supposed to start with feeling hot and cold. Then comes a runny nose and wet eyes, then you become weak and tired, then you become weak and cant sleep , and after that it gets really bad I heard.


All the above tips are things I heard from someone who heard it, but they are good, I believe that strongly!Edited by: bogumil

[greg182]

thanks for the advice bogumil, sorry to woodland for getting out of line.