Combinations - Effects of Benzodiazepines on LSD

[GentlyWeeps]

Originally Posted by skatealex2

can lsd be mixed with anything to take away possible anxiety? like a beer before hand? swim is gonna do lsd his first time sometime this summer and wants it to be a pleasant experience. maybe swim just needs to go in open minded and thats really the key.

Both times my monkeys uncle had the experience, him and his roomates had 3-5 beers before hand. They figure that there is nothing to worry about, but it can't hurt to be in a social/fun state of mind. So My Monkey's Uncle would advise this, what ever puts you at ease.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by skatealex2

can lsd be mixed with anything to take away possible anxiety? like a beer before hand? swim is gonna do lsd his first time sometime this summer and wants it to be a pleasant experience. maybe swim just needs to go in open minded and thats really the key.

Meditation works well, and its better for the trip than beer (in swim's opinion at least).

Clear and open mind also helps.

[radiometer]

Not that I would advise such, but LSD seems to be rare among psychedelics in that there are not so many reports of negative effects from consuming alcohol while tripping, with the obvious exception of nausea. I would think that entering an LSD trip while highly intoxicated might be rather unpleasant. Moderation is advised, as with all poly-drug use.

[Panthers007]

Back in the early days of American exploration, it was common, if not expected, to give the person some Valium 1/2 hour before giving them the LSD25, psilocybin, etc. A couple beers were also considered pro forma.

I knew some 60's heads who liked STP (DOM) - which was rare. Their idea of good times was a few gallon bottles of Ripple wine and STP high in the Hollywood Hills - overlooking the lights of LA.

[Spunion]

While at a party last weekend Swim bought 2 sugar cubes in which he was told had been dosed with Liquid LSD. He decided to save what he bought. Other buyers claimed that it might be bunk L but mentioned that they had taken Xanax and thought that was why they had not tripped.
In the few years Swim has been dropping L he never heard of Xanax Killing a trip.
Is this true?

[aowe]

Swim recommends not to take Xanax with LSD. Swim thinks It makes no sense.

[gmeziscool2354]

yeah, LSD is very potent, so i mean, if SWI your friends didn't trip on the shit, it was probably bunk unless they ate some sort of psychadelic blocker, which i don't think exists.

As far as swim knows, lsd will enduce its effects regardless of virtually anything else

[RaverHippie]

xanax will blunt the effects for anything and is regarded as a "trip ender" usually reserved for when a mushroom or acid trip becomes too heavy and SWIY wants to end the trip rather than grind out an excruciating event.

[electrolingus]

For SWIM, Xanax mellows a trip of 250ug or stronger. When on higher doses of LSD, ones blood pressure and heart rate effect the experience. A mellow body equals a mellow mind. SWIM wouldn't recommend it for doses in the 50-150ug range though. But, Xanax or no Xanax. If the dose is legit, SWIY will feel it. Sounds to SWIM like SWIY got beat.

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Originally Posted by electrolingus

For SWIM, Xanax mellows a trip of 250ug or stronger. When on higher doses of LSD, ones blood pressure and heart rate effect the experience. A mellow body equals a mellow mind. SWIM wouldn't recommend it for doses in the 50-150ug range though. But, Xanax or no Xanax. If the dose is legit, SWIY will feel it. Sounds to SWIM like SWIY got beat.

I totally feel this man... I dunno I just... feel it.

Anyway, is the reason for not recommending Xanax in the 50-150ug range because the experience is totally diminished? What exactly is affected: hallucinations and/or just body and/or mind high?

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by Joe-(5-HTP)

Anyway, is the reason for not recommending Xanax in the 50-150ug range because the experience is totally diminished? What exactly is affected: hallucinations and/or just body and/or mind high?

the anti anxiety effects of the benzo take away any anxiety stemming from a "bad trip" and it will also sedate SWIY with varying effectiveness depending on dosage of the benzo and how hard SWIY is tripping.

[electrolingus]

Originally Posted by Joe-(HTP-5)

Anyway, is the reason for not recommending Xanax in the 50-150ug range because the experience is totally diminished? What exactly is affected: hallucinations and/or just body and/or mind high?

Doses in the 50ug-150ug range are considered mild to moderate. Xanax may diminish some effects of LSD at this level (both visual & body). But as SWIRaverhippie stated. Xanax will ease someone out of a bad trip or aid in coming down at the end of it all. If someone is suffering from a bad trip and is taken to the emergence room at a hospital, they will usually give the patient some sort of benzo. SWIM has found that the speedier the acid is, the more intense(for lack of a better word) it can be. At higher doses, the cleaner the acid the better. Everyswiy is different though.

[Spunion]

by luck Swim found a strip of legit L for this weekend, so other than a few bucks worth of bunk shit he's no worse the wear. Thanks for the clarification though, Knowledge=Power
and
Higher Ground, Burlington Vt. March 27/28 = Lotus and Perpetual Groove

[Wierd Logic]

Squirrel would go for 20mg of diazepam, and would recommend that to others too. If Squirrels trip was REALLY bad he might go for 30mg.

Wierd Logic added 0 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

NB: Squirrel takes valium most acid trips - around 10mg to try and get some sleep...

[ohanessian2010]

well for me the thing is, dr dolittle gets really really pissed on any benzo, a band trip persay. Would it still stop his bad lsd trip or should he look for some thorazine

[OiledMandible]

I like the combo. Just be careful with the xanax dosage, and try not to drink alcohol.

[raven3davis]

Xanax will definitely take the anxiety away from an acid trip, shrooms too. I would recommend a small dose if you just want to take off the edge, probably like .5mg. 2 mg is good when you are coming down.

[primal440]

Hello, im an almost daily Valium user and I intend to trip during this week. Its common knowledge they use these kinds of drugs to put people on psychedelics down so if there's any valium running through my body theoretically it would dull my trip... Valium has a half life of 20-100 [36-200] hours which means a lot. This of course does not mean you spend 100 hours in a benzo state but rather the molecule although no longer "active" per se is still in your system. My question is, if I wanted to trip on LSD how much time should I wait between taking it and letting off the Valium? I think its enough for a day 8more than the time its effects lasts) but im not quite sure, i want to squeeze the most of my LSD. Does anyone here has any experience with Valium and LSD use? thanks in advance..

[enquirewithin]

If you are taking valium to counteract anxiety, I would not not stop taking it and then take LSD. Psychedelics can put you into anxiety states. If you take valium with psychedelics, the trip will more mellow (less worrying) but still visual.

[primal440]

nah i take valium for recreational purposes although its becoming quite a habit right now with tramadol, they're both cheap and easy to get for me so there it is. anyways i find valium a very rich substance in which i can feel somewhate "normal", not just look for the high but for what you said, the removal of anxieties. you sure the trip will be more mellow (in opposition to less powerful) if i took the valium along with a psychedelic? i think i would stop taking valium a day before taking a psychedelic, dont mind the anxiety states in which i can findm yself with psychedelics, im as familiar with them as with valium but not with the combination. have you ever experienced something like this or anybody else who has a valium treatment or something?

[Fantasian]

Sorry to drag an old thread up but it have another question on this combination.

If SWIM was on his first time tripping with LSD and had diazepam(valium) readily available would this be something to take should SWIM begin to have a bad trip to calm him down or would this end the trip or have no effect at all. Just any general thoughts that people could offer on the combination woudl be nice... thanks guys

[Nahbus]

SWIM was on valium for his first trip. Just made it more mellow and easy to handle. SWIM had no fears or anxiety.

[CrookedEye]

Yes, it can definitely help keep you mellow enough if anxiety starts to get the best of you.. It will not end the trip, but it will seem to lessen the intensity a bit, and the visuals will still continue for the most part, although the vividness may be somewhat affected.. Of course, all of that is very subjective...

[Fantasian]

good thats the type of effect SWIM wanted, ar ethere any drugs that do completely end a mushrooms or LSD trip and any drugs that instantly end an E trip?

[Abrad]

Hospitals used to use chlorpromazine which, when injected would terminate a trip very quickly but AFAIK this is no longer done because of the nasty effect this drug has. Now they just use diazepam which is fairly effective in turning a bad trip around.