Combinations - Effects of Benzodiazepines on LSD

[gn2osis]

I've heard that benzo's (xanax, valium mostly) can be used to bring
down a person who is tripping too hard. What kind of dose is
needed and how effective is it?

Why would you want to abort a trip?!!!

[korky8097]

my thoughts exactly

[Zandorf]

if a person is freaking out you can give them Benzos to counteract the
anxiety, but no this won't abort a trip unless you give them enough to
knock them out (not a good idea.)

[gn2osis]

Shulgin talks about using valium to stop (or largely diminish the
effects of) a long-lasting trip from some kinky RC. My question
is how much valium or xanax would used?

[GDxCAT]

4-6mg of xanax should get rid of all anxiety experienced while tripping and dimish alot of the effects though not all.



To abort a trip u should look into atypycal antiipsychotics such as riperdol.

[korky8097]

damn dude 4-6? I find 10mg of val smoothes the trip right out.

[GDxCAT]

oh yeh. it defintely would.

i thought he meant abort it completely. To smooth one out 2mg xanax would be fine.

[raven3davis]

During my worst trip ever I took 2mg of xanax andit completely stopped
my trip. I was tripping hard off of some very potent mushroom tea
and I was having the worst trip ever. My whole field of vision
was taken over my hallucinations. I took 2 mg xanax and I stopped
tripping within an hour. It was really wierd. I think xanax
is a good way to calm you down during a trip but I think my experience
was unusual. I think xanax would be good to terminate an acid
trip too, or at leasy calm you down. I would try 2mg.

[X-Dream]

damn 4-6mg of alprazolam (xanax) will knock someone out. That's 2 or 3 bars. SWIM likes them to mellow out the trip a bit, it won't abort it but will take the edge off. Even half a bar will help (1mg) I've seen people pass out w/ that dose also, but if you've taken xanies before, u know how much to take.

[GDxCAT]

yes i should have mentioned that your mileage may vary.

It would be best to start out with .5 or 1mg of xanax and work your way up untill u feel comfortable.

[korky8097]

yeah that would definatly abort it. I sometimes take a small
amount of a benzo to smooth it out, but never abort it.

[radiometer]

If someone is having a crisis, and they have taken no other
depressants, then slightly higher doses (20-30mg diazepam,
2-3mg alprazolam) should present no danger, even if they are benzo
naive.

Diazepam is a better choice for this application IMO, it's fairly fast-acting
for most people, and lasts longer than alprazolam.

[OiledMandible]

I like the combo. Just be careful with the xanax dosage, and try not to drink alcohol.

[raven3davis]

Xanax will definitely take the anxiety away from an acid trip, shrooms too. I would recommend a small dose if you just want to take off the edge, probably like .5mg. 2 mg is good when you are coming down.

[primal440]

Hello, im an almost daily Valium user and I intend to trip during this week. Its common knowledge they use these kinds of drugs to put people on psychedelics down so if there's any valium running through my body theoretically it would dull my trip... Valium has a half life of 20-100 [36-200] hours which means a lot. This of course does not mean you spend 100 hours in a benzo state but rather the molecule although no longer "active" per se is still in your system. My question is, if I wanted to trip on LSD how much time should I wait between taking it and letting off the Valium? I think its enough for a day 8more than the time its effects lasts) but im not quite sure, i want to squeeze the most of my LSD. Does anyone here has any experience with Valium and LSD use? thanks in advance..

[enquirewithin]

If you are taking valium to counteract anxiety, I would not not stop taking it and then take LSD. Psychedelics can put you into anxiety states. If you take valium with psychedelics, the trip will more mellow (less worrying) but still visual.

[primal440]

nah i take valium for recreational purposes although its becoming quite a habit right now with tramadol, they're both cheap and easy to get for me so there it is. anyways i find valium a very rich substance in which i can feel somewhate "normal", not just look for the high but for what you said, the removal of anxieties. you sure the trip will be more mellow (in opposition to less powerful) if i took the valium along with a psychedelic? i think i would stop taking valium a day before taking a psychedelic, dont mind the anxiety states in which i can findm yself with psychedelics, im as familiar with them as with valium but not with the combination. have you ever experienced something like this or anybody else who has a valium treatment or something?

[Fantasian]

Sorry to drag an old thread up but it have another question on this combination.

If SWIM was on his first time tripping with LSD and had diazepam(valium) readily available would this be something to take should SWIM begin to have a bad trip to calm him down or would this end the trip or have no effect at all. Just any general thoughts that people could offer on the combination woudl be nice... thanks guys

[Nahbus]

SWIM was on valium for his first trip. Just made it more mellow and easy to handle. SWIM had no fears or anxiety.

[CrookedEye]

Yes, it can definitely help keep you mellow enough if anxiety starts to get the best of you.. It will not end the trip, but it will seem to lessen the intensity a bit, and the visuals will still continue for the most part, although the vividness may be somewhat affected.. Of course, all of that is very subjective...

[Fantasian]

good thats the type of effect SWIM wanted, ar ethere any drugs that do completely end a mushrooms or LSD trip and any drugs that instantly end an E trip?

[Abrad]

Hospitals used to use chlorpromazine which, when injected would terminate a trip very quickly but AFAIK this is no longer done because of the nasty effect this drug has. Now they just use diazepam which is fairly effective in turning a bad trip around.

[hh339]

Hello all you beautiful people, SWIM has a question for ya'll!

He FINALLY got a hold of 4 good blotters of LSD, and no doubt will he drop 'em all att the same time to arrive at wonderland. Enough with the dicksizing, heres the real question: SWIM had 7 mgs of alprazolam this morning and 2 days earlier he had about 2 mgs of buprenorphine, so what he wants to know if these previous ingestions will stand in the way of the wonderful effects of LSD in some way? He has a feeling the alprazolam could be a problem here, but he's not totally sure.

Any kind soul who would be kind enough to provide SWIM with an answer to his dilemma? Thank you.

[wellhelm]

Swim knows buprenorphine has a LONG half life of roughly 37 hours. 7 mgs of xanax is a lot, even with its short half life of 6 hours it will probably effect it in some way. Swim thinks it would lessen it. some one correct swim if he's wrong. The best in swim's opinion is to wait and assure swiy's self that all drugs are out of his system before ingesting blotter. From personal expierence, there is nothing worse than looking forward to an intense trip and because of perscribtion drugs nothing happens.