Combinations - Effects of Benzodiazepines on LSD

[gn2osis]

I've heard that benzo's (xanax, valium mostly) can be used to bring
down a person who is tripping too hard. What kind of dose is
needed and how effective is it?

Why would you want to abort a trip?!!!

[korky8097]

my thoughts exactly

[Zandorf]

if a person is freaking out you can give them Benzos to counteract the
anxiety, but no this won't abort a trip unless you give them enough to
knock them out (not a good idea.)

[gn2osis]

Shulgin talks about using valium to stop (or largely diminish the
effects of) a long-lasting trip from some kinky RC. My question
is how much valium or xanax would used?

[GDxCAT]

4-6mg of xanax should get rid of all anxiety experienced while tripping and dimish alot of the effects though not all.



To abort a trip u should look into atypycal antiipsychotics such as riperdol.

[korky8097]

damn dude 4-6? I find 10mg of val smoothes the trip right out.

[GDxCAT]

oh yeh. it defintely would.

i thought he meant abort it completely. To smooth one out 2mg xanax would be fine.

[raven3davis]

During my worst trip ever I took 2mg of xanax andit completely stopped
my trip. I was tripping hard off of some very potent mushroom tea
and I was having the worst trip ever. My whole field of vision
was taken over my hallucinations. I took 2 mg xanax and I stopped
tripping within an hour. It was really wierd. I think xanax
is a good way to calm you down during a trip but I think my experience
was unusual. I think xanax would be good to terminate an acid
trip too, or at leasy calm you down. I would try 2mg.

[X-Dream]

damn 4-6mg of alprazolam (xanax) will knock someone out. That's 2 or 3 bars. SWIM likes them to mellow out the trip a bit, it won't abort it but will take the edge off. Even half a bar will help (1mg) I've seen people pass out w/ that dose also, but if you've taken xanies before, u know how much to take.

[GDxCAT]

yes i should have mentioned that your mileage may vary.

It would be best to start out with .5 or 1mg of xanax and work your way up untill u feel comfortable.

[korky8097]

yeah that would definatly abort it. I sometimes take a small
amount of a benzo to smooth it out, but never abort it.

[radiometer]

If someone is having a crisis, and they have taken no other
depressants, then slightly higher doses (20-30mg diazepam,
2-3mg alprazolam) should present no danger, even if they are benzo
naive.

Diazepam is a better choice for this application IMO, it's fairly fast-acting
for most people, and lasts longer than alprazolam.

[Pachanoid]

SWIM was having a hell of a bad trip last week, and 6mg Ativan completely killed the trip. Thank God for that.

[ericsz3]

swim has lsd but can never sleep on it the day after taking it even. Swim wanted to know if xanax taking as swim starts to come down would help him.

Swims also curious as to what exactly xanax would do on lsd because swim has heard that it ends a trip, calms down a trip, knocks you out ect

[KBLSD]

it will calm you down and if you take enough you can sleep. swim takes 1-2 mg of klonopin and drinks a few beers and he passes out especially after an long tiring acid trip

[ericsz3]

Thanks a lot. swim loves acid but a few hours after peeking swim just wants to relax and hopefully eventually sleep but that never seems to happen

[DayLight]

I have a friend, really a friend who claims a combo of xanax(or other benzo's) and pot make everything extra "watery" and he can control his hallucinations.
Benzo's are reliable trip weakeners and sleep inducers. I'd say if you know your body's recation to xanax and the doses you should take then it should work well to put you to sleep and reduce the intensity of the trip. I'd say rather than taking it as you come down, take it an hour or two before sleep is needed, unless perhaps those events collide.

[smiz]

Swim and a friend came home from a party, took some xanax, and were so uninhibited and barred out that they both ingested a few hits of lsd! ridiculous. it was totally unplanned, but it proved to be a very interesting time, since it was the middle of the night/early morning and they decided to wander the streets of their suburban town. as far as the quality of the trip goes, it wasn't up there. probably better for just aborting mission.

[SuprSonik]

SWIM once took 1mg alprazolam (Xanax) while in the middle of a trip. It relaxed him and took off the stimulating edge that LSD is known for. The LSD experience itself also seemed less interesting however, with less intense visuals and less feelings of wonder, so SWIM would recommend that people do not combine the two. Perhaps a very low dose (.25mg -.5mg) would relieve some general anxiety and take the edge off without hurting the trip so badly, but SWIM wouldn't know.

On the other hand, when it's 3 or 4 AM, the trip has been fading out for a while, and SWIM is just wanting to get some sleep so that the next day isn't totally miserable, then 1-2mg alprazolam (or equivalent benzo) and a drink or two works well. It always created a very relaxing/sedated feel with a slight psychedelic touch that SWIM very much enjoys. It's a nice time to just lay down and listen to some music, until he falls asleep 1-2 hours later.

[mirabella]

SWIM has 3 hits blotter acid and plans to drop them all at once. SWIM has had past experience getting the "spooks" and anxiety towards end of trip. Would taking 1 mg xanax or 1 mg klonopin resolve this, or will it stop trip entirely? anyone have experience with this combo?

To add, SWIM also has 3.5 grams mushrooms, how does klonopin or xanax effect this type of trip also, and which is better? What about acid/mushroom/anxiety med combo? thx

[Jatelka]

Given that your Aardvaark gets the spooks and is already considering using benzodiazepines to help with the effects of LSD I can't really see how adding another powerful psychedelic to the mix is going to help?

Not recommended at all.

BTW threads merged

[jux]

does phenazepam have any interactions with any known psychedelics?

could it be used safely to sleep after a trip?

[Panthers007]

Swim might find that benzodiazepines (including phenazepam) would likely help the subject get to sleep sooner, I would ask why the monkey would want to? If the monk made solid plans to begin with, the monk would know that the next day is for rest and reflection. Not getting up when the bell rings and hurtling the highways to another day at job/school.

Activities should be planned so such a conflict of interest does not arise. This includes the monk visiting their lord on the weekend.

But a mild amount of a benzodiazepine likely won't kill the monk. Just suggest a schedule to the critter that won't make that a needed event. Set & setting 101.

[skatealex2]

can lsd be mixed with anything to take away possible anxiety? like a beer before hand? swim is gonna do lsd his first time sometime this summer and wants it to be a pleasant experience. maybe swim just needs to go in open minded and thats really the key.