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Old 10-12-2009, 21:01
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Holding smoke

I have a friend that enjoys smoking heroin, he was telling me that after he takes each hit he holds the smoke in his lungs for as long as possible, leaving little to no smoke upon exhalation. Sometimes though, he enjoys the feeling of breathing out the smoke and feeling the rush as he lets the hit out of his lungs. He would be interested to know how long the swimmers that smoke their gear hold the hits in for?
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Old 10-12-2009, 21:16
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Re: Holding smoke

swim isn't preaching, but most swiys should be comforted to know heroin isn't neurotoxic. holding swiy's breath for as long as possible kind of makes this fact irrelevant don't fuck with you're oxygen.
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Old 10-12-2009, 21:21
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Re: Holding smoke

SWIM holds it and then lets it drift slowly out.
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Old 11-12-2009, 13:18
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Re: Holding smoke

when swim smoked it mainly depended on how much money he had.

If he was skint then he'd hold it in until he fell off his chair, if he had lots of money he'd just puff away...
It does increase the effects if held in for a while though.
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Old 11-12-2009, 13:25
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Re: Holding smoke

Unlike crack cocaine heroin doesn't need to be held in for as long as possible.
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Old 11-12-2009, 16:00
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Re: Holding smoke

Ach! lol at this thread,SWIM remembers when times were not good,with too many days in which he and his( long since ex) partner sat, gloomily gazing upon a bag each to see them through what seemed like a very long day ahead...
what they did was to try and 'maximise' their paltry portions by doing blowbacks for each other,this was after attempting to hold their 'intake' till they went all kinds of funny colours,as opposed to their usual ashen hue's..
they used to time these marathon breath holding attempts with some quite exceptional times recorded,more often than not their timing was off so the expected blockback became instead the sight of one or the other of them expelling the compressed air at jet force along with the tooter which sailed across the room!...funny in retrospect,but at the time......
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Old 30-12-2009, 18:03
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Re: Holding smoke

One may enjoy the feeling of holding smoke as with Freebase Cocaine for as long as possible especially when you bust a lung and still a cloud is exhaled.
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Old 18-01-2011, 19:42
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Re: Holding smoke

PlaneCrash that’s not really great harm reduction advice
"Fucking with Oxygen", one isn't choking one’s self to hold in a hit to the point of passing out whilst crying and masturbating in the cupboard dressed in a gimp suite. This isn’t a desperation thing.

My point being, how much of what we inhale do we absorb and how much is unabsorbed or exhaled.

Does a larger hit full more of the lung or is it wasted. Does small hits repeated allow for better absorption.

I believe take the dose in one hit and hold breath for 30+ seconds if you can handle it most may be in the 10-25 seconds range.

Also does applying pressure help increase absorption, like when you take a shit and push hard, however this can make one nauseous and may increase blood pressure in the brain so be careful with this one else I'll set PlaneCrash on you with his amazing ability to state the obvious.


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Old 18-01-2011, 21:56
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Re: Holding smoke

Now this is an interesting subject which I know f all about, Swims mates have always insisted to hold the smoke as long as possible for max effect, but the peeps who sell the rocks/stones say its better to expel almost instantly. Also the Program on How Drugs work Shown on ITV3 last week was about cannabis and that proclaimed that holding the smoke in did nothing other than fill the lungs with tar and no extra THC was absorbed.

So is the holding breath thing dependent on different substances??
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Old 19-01-2011, 05:32
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Re: Holding smoke

Medically speaking, holding it in longer doesn't make a difference because the particles easily pass through the lining of your lungs on the momentum of your breath. What you are holding in when you hold stuff in your lungs is all the stuff that doesn't pass across the lining of your lungs.

Hope this helps.
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Old 20-01-2011, 19:08
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Re: Holding smoke

When you hold your breath for really long and finally exhale your heart rate goes up and you feel some kind of pseudo-rush.
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Old 20-01-2011, 22:26
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Re: Holding smoke

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When you hold your breath for really long and finally exhale your heart rate goes up and you feel some kind of pseudo-rush.
I have to attest that you get the same feeling holding a lungful of air in for a long time and then letting it go.
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Old 27-01-2011, 04:39
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Re: Holding smoke

the hyaena holds in the smoke of meth for as long as possible then breathes out threw nose. wouldn't know about heroin. that's something she's still chasing.
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Old 27-01-2011, 19:19
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Re: Holding smoke

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Medically speaking, holding it in longer doesn't make a difference because the particles easily pass through the lining of your lungs on the momentum of your breath. What you are holding in when you hold stuff in your lungs is all the stuff that doesn't pass across the lining of your lungs.

Hope this helps.
So does this mean that the practice of the "blow-back"(which should at least be familiar to the old, the skint or the imprisoned community in the UK) a total waste of time(and breath, and otherwise unsought physical proximity)? Having asked this, I will add that it's an awful long time since this Guinea Pig had a lung-ful of gear decent enough to make it worthwhile, but she's sure she managed to get pretty well stoned off other people's second-hand smoke back-in-the-day.
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Old 27-01-2011, 22:59
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Re: Holding smoke

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So does this mean that the practice of the "blow-back"(which should at least be familiar to the old, the skint or the imprisoned community in the UK) a total waste of time(and breath, and otherwise unsought physical proximity)? Having asked this, I will add that it's an awful long time since this Guinea Pig had a lung-ful of gear decent enough to make it worthwhile, but she's sure she managed to get pretty well stoned off other people's second-hand smoke back-in-the-day.
You can only get high off of second-hand smoke that doesn't enter your lungs. You're essentially right though, blow-backs are a waste of time.
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Old 02-02-2011, 00:09
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Re: Holding smoke

Beg to differ the someone got a small habit from receiving blow backs (second hand smoke) from a smoking buddy, there is definitely a small percentage of product in the exhalations. This information is anecdotal but would love to see a study on the percentage of product being exhaled.
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Re: Holding smoke

swim likes to smoke heroin when there is any heroin around (which there currently isn't) and swim just holds it in for a few seconds then exhales through the tube (tooter) and at the end of the session, unravels the tube (tooter) and the residue is left on the tooter and then swim smokes this in the same way.

When there is decent gear about swim thinks swiy will get wrecked regardless of how long swiy holds it in for, just as long as swiy inhales it, swiy will get a decent high.
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Old 14-02-2011, 16:05
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Re: Holding smoke

My cat would just run lines until his lungs were full, hold the smoke for a little while then exhale through the mouth and nose
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Old 20-02-2011, 11:30
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Re: Holding smoke

True PlaneCrash, unlike PEA's (Phenylethylamines) i.e. Speed(s) of sorts’ mdma etc. Heroin is not toxic and does not damage body tissue.

(Heroin) 3,6,Di-acetyl-morphine Hcl means on the 3rd (3,) and 6th (6,) position the morphine molecule has two (Di), (Acetyl) acylated points. Hcl is the hydrochloride salt, making 3,6,Diacetylmorphine hydrochloride the official salt of the brand formula, Heroin by Bayer Pharms...

Many users who inject convert the freebase using citric acid make 3,6,Diacetylmorphine citrate which is in fact not really Heroin by form at all.

Heroin in fact being a pro-drug and not particularly active its self and is metabolised from (Heroin) 3,6,Di-acetyl-morphine Hcl, the Hcl salt makes it true Heroin by the original brands specifications.

Into 3,mono-acetyl-morphine, 6,mono-acetyl-morphine and morphine to name 3 of the main ones. Non are toxic to the brain meaning they do not damage body tissue, nerves etc.

Oxygen however can be toxic and is lethal in high doses. Initially it makes you high and euphoric the reason why when a "PlaneCrashes" an oxygen mask falls making one high and euphoric and oblivious to the impending death they're facing.

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Old 27-06-2012, 18:52
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Re: Holding smoke

Looking back years later, sad this thread ended. quite fun and interesting.
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Old 28-06-2012, 07:55
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Re: Holding smoke

Almost everything that yu inhale will get all the effects within the first 3 seconds of Swim inhaling it. Swim says that she has not looked this up herself, but was told about it from a good source. Plus Swim used to hold in every hit that she took, but shortly after doing this for a while, it really fuked with her lungs. If one notices what smoking heroin through a tooter does to that tooter after one or two smoking sessions. Think about how much its caking ones lungs, especially if its being held in. One more thing this "rush" could be most likely coming from cutting off ones oxygen.

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Re: Holding smoke

My cat usually takes a deep breath and hold for about 40-70 seconds. After a while (25-30sec) my cat exhale and re-breath in a very small amount of air, trying to create some moviment inside the lungs therefore improving the absorption (it's just a theory, not sure if right)

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