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Insights & Mystical experiences The mystical side of drug use, altered states and psychedelic insights.

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Old 17-03-2004, 13:12
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Stop me if I'm ANALysing, but the book and movie Fight Club should be put in a class by themselves. There hasnot been too manydays that have gone by since I read Fight Club that I haventeither understood the author's message better, or come up with my owntheories. I must sound obsessed butthat Book/Movie contains situations and ideas which apply to everything.


I hereby want to dedicate this topic toFight Club, The Philosophy of F. Nietzsche, and any new ideas or theories similar or relating to either of those topics.
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Old 17-03-2004, 14:20
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I agree with you, i have whatched fight club many times and every time i realise something else that i didn't before, it might be that im just thick and it takes me a while to get the grasp of things, but it is "one of those films" you can kinda learn from in a twisted way.
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Old 13-04-2004, 22:04
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Would you fancy yourself Appollonian or Dionysian? I think our nature binds us to both extremes, but it is our choice of which one to incorporate most often. I wouldn't be posting here if I didn't have an urge to individually conceptualizethe aspects of my nature. But, if I hadn't grown too bored of my own delusions, and began systematic, experimental intoxication of my body, then I might notpossessenoughcuriosity to even explore past the daily routine of conditions.
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Old 12-05-2004, 00:37
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you people must behigh to learn different things when watching the movie again, or maybe you just stupid
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Old 29-06-2004, 23:57
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i want to know what you each learned and what sets this movie apart from the otheres cause to me the movie was kinda sorta like the skulls just with a whole lot of fighting in it but the end of the movie was just crazy noone would of ever guest that im not goin to say it just incase somone dint see it yet but if you have not i suggest you do great movie
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:02
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in simplicity, the movies about a man whos thrown around his whole life, and it builds up over time, he does nothin about it until BAM his unconscious creates an alternate man who does what he himself cannot do ..
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Old 17-11-2004, 03:53
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Who's Nietzsche and what's his philosophy, i'm bored and interested, thx
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I teach you the overman. Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him? All beings so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the ebb of this great flood and even go back to the beasts rather than overcome man? What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And man shall be just that for the overman: a laughingstock or a painful embarrassment..."

<H2 align=right>Nietzsche Thus spoke Zarathustra</H2>


Hell yeah
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Old 15-02-2005, 08:10
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i too felt that i was merely obsessed with the movie untill the words and philosophy filled my every thought and it may be because of a little drug use but i haveseen a whole new world since i was introduced to that movie i can see in examples of things from the movie and the book that i would never see before i was awakened to them and in every detail of my life (almost every but not quite) i see myself in the world of fight club....or im just obsessed......orim a pothead that has blown something out of proportion.......wait i dont even know what im doing AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:12
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The plot of that movie isnt as simple as it seems. It tries to describea complex mental ailment, in a character that is supposed to connect to the veiwers. The characters alter ego is also supposed to connect in ways. It causes one to analize things 2 ways most of the movie, and then naturaly take the side of the so called concious being. There is much philosophy in between the lines and at cirtain connecting scenes that can only be seen by those with a keen eye and some basic knowledge of philosophy.





The first matrix is also similar to this philosophy "filtering"
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Old 29-03-2005, 05:47
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i disagree with the viewer having to agree with edward norton, if thats what you're saying. i have no knowledge of philosophy really. tyler was obviously a real part of the human mind, otherwise he wouldn't have existed, and although edward norton faces and acknowledges him in the end, i don't think its certain that he embraced his view as much as he could/should have. i used to be really into that film, but not so much anymore. i would have at the time sided more with tyler, in a go-me kind of way i suppose. heh. but now i think that its quite important to keep both alive. i'm not educated enough to delve unaided into detail. i know nothing about it.
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Old 29-03-2005, 06:44
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Well it's just like Blake's basic theory of life that was stated over many texts but never more so than in the Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience. Everyone needs to keep alive both parts of life: both the innocence of childhood and just merely the essence of living. For those who've read The Doors of Perception I believe that was what it was like for Huxley when he was under the influence of mescaline. He saw the world for what it was without the meddlingsof society-influenced spacial, time, and "suchness" perceptions.


But at the same time, everyone needs experience to exist as well. Because a child cannot continue to survive in a world where experience decides whether or not a person lives or dies. Experience is what makes us who we are.


But in order to be a more complete person, we need to have the mix of both. To exist and be a functioning human being, we need to be "The Tyger" and "The Lamb". I believe this is what the movie was shooting for. Tyler was experience, "The Tyger", and Edward Norton, "The Lamb", was innocence. Edward Norton was too involved with so much of thepetty shit in life that he needed to experience more and thus created his alter ego, Tyler Durden.
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Old 31-03-2005, 18:48
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I think we spend to much time on useless theories and ideas. Is it the ivory tower that we climb in because we r sick of the world below, the misery is to much?

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Old 05-07-2005, 11:10
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Why did you capitalise "anal" in the word analysing? Is there a joke I'm missing?
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