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Old 04-12-2009, 01:40
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Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

...Actually get the line / bump insufflated properly. IE it does not get snorted in properly but rather seems to just get "caught" in the "blockage" and thus goes...Nowhere? Resulting in little to no effect.

I have read the "nose care" thread but much of that is about nose pain after / dry nose after but not during use.

It seems to be after a few hours...The nostril swim is using just wont get anymore up there...And the other nostril does not seem to be working well either even though I have not used it.

swim has tried doing water lines / w/ or without some salt and blowing my nose or just putting some water in the nostril but all it seems to do is dry it up / make it worse? Sometimes a drop of water opens it up enough to get it up there but generally it just makes it worse.

Does anyone have some sort of "trick" for keeping the nose clean during the session?

Plz advise.

ps. again i did check the other thread but did not find what I am looking for. Sorry for the inconvinience if any.

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Old 04-12-2009, 08:11
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

if it gets that clogged up during use swiyou is probably overdoing it, or the coke is cut with too much non watersoluble stuff, or swiyou is getting an infection.

usually, when using, snorting a little lukewarm water usually help, blowing the nose gently, maybe rubbing a little oil in there- yet this might affect further absorption.
steam inhalations maybe, using menthol or vapo-rub type menthol camphor eucalyptus oil ointment dissolved in hot water ?

when the nostrils are fully coated, and drying out, they pretty much won't absorb, clots will form, and further snorting will end up sending much of the cocaine into the GI tract which can cause delayed overdoses.


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Old 07-12-2009, 12:38
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

SWIM used to use a nasal decongestant spray, not sure if this is safe or not but it used to work a treat.
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Old 07-12-2009, 22:23
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

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SWIM used to use a nasal decongestant spray, not sure if this is safe or not but it used to work a treat.
no recommended as cocaine itself is a pretty heavy vasoconstrictor and these sprays work through vasoconstrictive action.

the cocaine clogged nose is a either / or a mechanical obstruction / inflamation of the mucous membranes or actually a sinus infection

in either way, you xant to flush mucous out, not dry it out

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Old 08-12-2009, 09:33
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

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no recommended as cocaine itself is a pretty heavy vasoconstrictor and these sprays work through vasoconstrictive action.

the cocaine clogged nose is a either / or a mechanical obstruction / inflamation of the mucous membranes or actually a sinus inffection

in either way, you xant to flush mucous out, not dry it out

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So in essence, by using a decongestant spray whilst using cocaine, you would be engaging what the pharmacists warn of when you buy the spray, the "rebound effect"?

SWIM hasn't tried the saline wash when using coke, but he has used it recently after what was either A. a bad batch of coke, B. hay fever, or C. a cat allergy. The saline followed by a quick antihistimine spray has worked absolute wonders for me.
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

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So in essence, by using a decongestant spray whilst using cocaine, you would be engaging what the pharmacists warn of when you buy the spray, the "rebound effect"?

SWIM hasn't tried the saline wash when using coke, but he has used it recently after what was either A. a bad batch of coke, B. hay fever, or C. a cat allergy. The saline followed by a quick antihistimine spray has worked absolute wonders for me.
or actually doing more harm than good to the nose and sinuses, especially on the long term.

saline, especially saline / salt & sodium bicarbonate rinses are good, though it can be a little rough on irritated mucosa. rinses, neti posts --- as long as one rinse out the excess water caught in sinus cavities before hitting the sack, as water caught in sinuses and left to macerate in one's sinuses for a few hours can really trigger a nasty sinusitis
steam, can help, vapour inhalation, especially with camphor / eucalyptus oil. or vinegar (condenses and has a unique antiseptic effect)
a little grease, vitamin E oil can also help things heal quicker.

the key is washing flushing whatever's caught in there,(undissolved cocaine, less water soluble cuts, crap) clearing the sinuses (saline, sea water, salt, sodium bicarb, sulfur) and avoiding infection (think sterile, antiseptic products)
fighting the drying out and vasoconstrictive effects (fluid intake, moisture), and healing the topical / mucosal irritation.

nose care is crucial in winter as well as it's the first filter against airborne contaminants, from common colds to influenza... to which one is much more exposed in wintertime
snorting a powder hurts the nose (contaminants, vasoconstrictive effect, irritation), and stimulant use weaken's one's overall immune system response
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:42
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

Also, on a similar subject, don't make the mistake SWIM did.

His nose appeared to become sensitive after constant cocaine use. Through the week his nose hairs would itch so badly, and stick out the bottom of his nose and tickle him. After a while it drove him that insane that he stuck a pair of scissors up there and gave the inside of his nose a number 1 all over.

Of course after this, any particle that passed by was sucked up in there. This was followed by months of allergic rhinitis.

So, if your nose hairs become irritating, just remember they're there for a reason.
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Old 08-12-2009, 22:14
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

Swim finds lense water solution to work quite well for rinsing as its mild, quite comfortable to use so it gets the job done without irritating too much.
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

Yeah, what you speak of is what was mentioned above, saline solution. SWIM uses contact lens solution,or a homemade solution of table salt and water. He uses the solution bottles though, as they are very easy to inject the saline into the sinuses.
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

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if it gets that clogged up during use swiyou is probably overdoing it, or the coke is cut with too much non watersoluble stuff, or swiyou is getting an infection.

usually, when using, snorting a little lukewarm water usually help, blowing the nose gently, maybe rubbing a little oil in there- yet this might affect further absorption.
steam inhalations maybe, using menthol or vapo-rub type menthol camphor eucalyptus oil ointment dissolved in hot water ?

when the nostrils are fully coated, and drying out, they pretty much won't absorb, clots will form, and further snorting will end up sending much of the cocaine into the GI tract which can cause delayed overdoses.


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Thank you for your reply B.

I don't think I'm overdoing it. If it's an 8b its over the course of 12 hrs + and swim is only doing bumps. As for infection - Not sure about that...It just gets very very dry and blocked 8 hrs in or so. If that is overdoing it...Then...so be it.

Snorting a bit of luke warm water helps at first but seems to end up just drying things up further.

The stuff is def better than avg street stuff but I'm no expert. All I do know is this never used to happen and has the last few times. Swim uses 2 x a month / and on weekends.

In the end it is just odd as this never used to happen and now suddenly it does...And the fact that swim only uses one nostril and the other seems to get affected as well is..well..also odd

Thanxx for the suggestions though. Did not work again this past weekend. Sigh.

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Old 09-12-2009, 06:07
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

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And the fact that swim only uses one nostril and the other seems to get affected as well is..well..also odd


That to me suggests an infection - does SWIY suffer from congestion during his downtime from using coke, IE during the week if a weekend user?
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Re: Cocaine :Nose 2 Blocked By End Of Session To...

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That to me suggests an infection - does SWIY suffer from congestion during his downtime from using coke, IE during the week if a weekend user?
It's not fully blocked or anything but it is somewhat blocked during the week. What would the "symptoms" of an infection of this nature be?

I could put it to you guys like this. In the past, when swim would sniff the bump / line swim could feel it go up...Now there is little to no feeling. And again, i don't consider what swim does to be overdoing it so...

Be well.

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