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Old 29-11-2009, 01:52
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DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

The other day SWIM was high on DXM.
He weigh 150 pounds (about 68 kg) and drank 4 oz of Robitussin Long acting.
A little bit after he was feeling really strong effects from the DXM, he smoked a cigarette.
Everything temporarily felt more powerful.
The effects of the DXM felt stronger.
Does smoking/vaporizing nicotine/tobacco while on DXM increase it's effects?
Or does DXM cause your nicotine buzz to feel stronger?
Or is it just Swim?

Feel free to comment on this.
It'd be more interesting to find out more on this.
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Old 29-11-2009, 20:53
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

My good friend SWIM found this info in Will White's FAQ about DXM + Nicotine:


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This is a combination I hadn't considered before, but which evidently is fairly interesting. Nicotine seems to vastly potentiate DXM's effects for some people, enough so that one user reported that one cigarette could floor him on a second plateau trip. Another user reported that nicotine helped him overcome some of the memory problems with higher doses of DXM, but tended to induce nausea.

On the other hand, several people have told me that DXM should be avoided if one smokes cigarettes regularly (even if you don't smoke during the trip), because of nausea, hot flashes, and other unpleasant interactions. This might be due to inhibition of MAO by cigarettes and if so, cigarettes should be avoided.

Also, SWIM found several sources further accrediting this claim. However, these sources also suggested that one should not smoke cigarettes on a third plateau trip and up, as it can cause SWIY's trip to become very unpleasant. Thanks for bringing this question up though, SWIM hadn't researched this before now; perhaps SWIM will try it next time he trips, even though he is only a casual smoker.

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Old 29-11-2009, 23:50
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

Nicotine is an MAOI (mono-amine oxidase inhibitior), and as such increases the effect of DXM. It isn't just swiy, a physiological reaction in the body causes nicotine to potentiate dxm.

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Old 02-12-2009, 14:19
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

My bunny has no desire to smoke under the influence, but she wouldn't think it would have a massive effect on the trip. It is actually written in ww's faq, as someone suggested before, that nicotine does indeed potentiate the effects.
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Old 02-12-2009, 16:08
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

SWIM has experienced this first hand. It was pretty surprising. SWIM feels it made as much of a difference as doing some Nitrous Oxide while on DXM would have.

Upon looking back Cheshire Cat feels he didn't explain this exactly as he wanted. Let him clarify.....

The effect that came from smoking a cigarette while on dextromethorphan was nothing like nitrous oxide, with the exception of the short duration. However, he has done inhalants while on dextromethorphan, but it wasn't nitrous oxide, it was a can of compressed air. The type that is sold to clean electronics. The effect from the tobacco was about as strong as the inhalant's effects.

It really took him by surprise as he's smoked more than enough on DXM. It may have been because he hadn't had a cigarette for a few hours, and the fact that it wasn't actually a filtered cigarette. It was a foil pipe with the tobacco from cigarette butts thrown in it. Yeah, it's nasty, but better than having no cigarettes.

Again, for clarification, the effects were not nitrous oxide like, besides the duration, and how fast it took effect.

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Old 02-12-2009, 17:27
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

I found this thread very interesting. There are several threads out there about using DXM to quit smoking. Funny how differently DXM effects different people.

SWIM dislikes smoking while on DXM. She finds the taste truly awful. Sometimes she wont even smoke for several day after.

It would be interesting to see a survey of DXM users to see if more DXM users like or dislike smoking while under the influence.
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Old 02-12-2009, 17:29
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

Swim is pretty sure there is another thread about this that was made pretty recently. In the future please make sure to use the search function. There are two ways. One is the search at the top of the page between new posts and quick links. There is another search at the top right of each forum, this says search this forum, and that is a more specific search. When you make a post without searching it clutters the site.

That being said:

Swim loves to smoke when he does dxm. He smokes cloves on occasion, and often when he has taken a lower dose 300-350 mg, sometimes when he smokes it makes the trip kick in a little faster and harder when he has a clove. Swim doesn't smoke usually when sober, but he loves his clove cigars when he is dexing.
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

SWIM is the same way; he usually only smokes hookah while sober, but when inebriated or baked he enjoys smoking more; especially cigars. I'd assume that he would enjoy smoking while Robotripping as well. Does the effect from the nicotine last the whole trip or does it dissipate after a while?
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Old 02-12-2009, 18:32
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

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SWIM is the same way; he usually only smokes hookah while sober, but when inebriated or baked he enjoys smoking more; especially cigars. I'd assume that he would enjoy smoking while Robotripping as well. Does the effect from the nicotine last the whole trip or does it dissipate after a while?
In SWIM's experience it wore off as fast as it hit, just like Nitrous Oxide.
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:50
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

How disappointing. Oh well, thanks for the info anyway.
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

Hm. That suggests to Cally that the oxygen deprivation is as much a part of that trip as the oxygen replacement in question.


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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

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Nicotine is an MAOI (mono-amine oxidase inhibitior), and as such increases the effect of DXM. It isn't just swiy, a physiological reaction in the body causes nicotine to potentiate dxm.
Nicotine itself is not an MAOI, there are reversible minor MAOIs in tobacco that in addition to increasing DXM's effects also make nicotine pleasurable.

Nicotine without an MAOI would not be very addicting.
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Old 17-12-2009, 23:37
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

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In SWIM's experience it wore off as fast as it hit, just like Nitrous Oxide.
Exact same as swim. When on dxm, after an escape dummy takes a drag off a cig, he feels a "hit" not unlike NO2, then it very quickly leaves.


And hollow hippie, thank you for the correction. So it would be correct to say tobacco is a mild MAOI? Or rather it has mild MAOI properties?
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

when me and my friends "accidentally" take too much robo we find that after the "side effects" ware off if we smoke a cig the "side effects" come back for a few minutes.
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

swim was just wondering about this, my cat pretty much only trips 3rd plateau and up and enjoys cigs as a short boost after he's peaked. also dxm was the reason my cat cut down smoking considerably a little while ago.
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Re: DXM and Nicotine / Tobacco

swim thinks cigs are the best on dxm.and they taste the best on dxm as well

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