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Old 14-11-2009, 23:13
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Methylphenidate extraction tek.

Swim is getting hooked up with generic methylphenidate SR 20mg tablets from a good friend of his... When he first recieved them, he took 2 normally, parachuted another, and waited. Nothing too special seemed to be happening... Disappointed, swim decided to break one up and do a small line and got majorly fucked up. Swim was high for about 10 hours and noticed very little drip... To his dismay the next day he was sucking jello-like snot out of his nose and coughing it up... Swim looked up the binders and sure enough... gelatin... He got this bright idea to remove most of the binders using a water extraction tecnique since he has done this with oxycodones before. Here is his method.

Swim did not write this for people who need a materials list or step by step help. He did it exactly as described, written in kind of a readers digest version.

~1gram by weight of the 'unbreakable rock' material mixed in about 30-50ml of water dissolved until all that was left was gel like gunk that settled to the bottom and hazy looking water. He poured the water and gunk through a coffee filter until he was left with only hazy colored water, and discareded filtered material. He took this water and poured it onto a large pyrex plate and placed it in the oven, and heated it to 250 degrees (methylphenidate is destroyed at 275F, and methylphenidate HCL is somewhere in the range of 400F...) Swim didn't want to be careless as he wanted to get the greatest yeild that he possibly could as quickly as possible... if 212 boils water on a stove and evaporates it in an oven, 250 in theory would evaporate the water within 1 1/2-2 hours and leave him with the 'good stuff' intact. After evaporating the water he was indeed left with a plate covered in a white sheet of crude crystals. He scraped this material with a razorblade and was left with a pile of white crystals which he ground into powder (he was careful not to breathe on because he would lose his yeild that way.) He bagged the powder and had 3 friends join him, to check dosing... Swim has a high tolerance so he can take one small line and get fucked up, swim's friend 'L' has a moderate tolerance and is bigger than swim, he can take small line and feel 'pretty fucked up', and swim's friend 'C' is much smaller than Swim and has a relatively low tolerance took a bump and felt 'fucked up'.

All in all swim would say his project was a success, he got the garbage out and good stuff is substantially stronger than what he originally had in the pills (he could rail 10 mgs [2 decent lines] and feel as good as one bump of this without shitty nose plug.) Swim thinks using the same method but extracting with ethanol (even better... methanol) would work supremely, however, food grade ethanol is illegal to posess in his state, and methanol is annoying to extract without proper materials.

Swims advice for SR pills: DO NOT COMPLETELY CRUSH OUTER LAYER AND SNORT, this will leave swiy feeling like they have a bad cold for a few days. Instead remove the large chunks from the powder, save it, snort powder, when swiy's 'rocks' build up, extract and swiy will have some bomb shit to play with... And swims yeild was incredibly impressive... almost 700 mgs, he thinks he could make this sack last him... 1 1/2 - 2 weeks...
He also says BE CAREFUL! BECAUSE EXTRACTIONS CREATE YEILDS MUCH STRONGER THAN THE ORIGINAL PRODUCT, THE DOSAGE IS NOT THE SAME! START SMALL AND WORK UP! Swiy will definitely catch a buzz off a small amount.

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nice write up
Thx for sharing this tek.
Great informative post, keep it up!
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Old 26-11-2009, 11:20
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

SWIM is interested in knowing if anyone else has tried this?
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Old 26-11-2009, 12:58
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

swim would like to add that this method will most likely not work on concerta brand methylphenidate. This sounds like a great idea though. Swim thinks that this would work great, but also thinks swiy should try a bit less water and no heat to evap. Just let it sit for a couple days in a dark place. If swim remembers right methylphenidate does degrade a little bit in light.
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Old 05-12-2009, 22:37
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

Swim has used this method reliably several times.
If he had some ethanol this tek would be considerably less lengthy, but this is easy enough that anyone could do it.
Swim has also heard you could skip most of this whole process entirely by soaking the tablets in acetone, where the binders are soluble in acetone, and MPH is not, therefore filtration would filter out the MPH, leaving you with a coffee filter full of crystals.

Swim has been smoking the extracted material via lightbulb and does not need much weight to feel really really good.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:34
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

acetone don't dissolve the binder.
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Old 04-01-2010, 22:40
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

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acetone don't dissolve the binder.
Would swiy then care to explain how various cats and dogs often use acetone to remove binder agents from amphetamines?

Amphetamines = not soluble in acetone
Binders = are soluble in acetone

If these animals decided to crush their prescriptions up, add acetone, let sit for a few minutes, filter through coffee filter... Discard liquid and dry then scrape filter... These clever animals now have some speed!

Swims personal experience says acetone dissolves the binder.
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Old 06-01-2010, 03:13
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

SWIM would appreciate someone with more positive reputation giving input. SWIM doesn't know what binders the different SR methylphenidate pills have, only has IR pills, and is too lazy to do the research to check this TEK.

Has SWIJunkfuck tried this with the Daytrana patches? SWIM wants to write a thread on them but is down to his last 4-5 patches and might just plow through them tonight to get shit done. SWIM thinks a wash with methanol or water would work very well. The patch matrix is made up of an acrylic and silicone adhesive.

What does SWIJunkfuck think of a simple water extraction with them? SWIM notes they work EXTREMELY well when used buccualy and pretty damn well when used transdermally as well so an extraction isn't something he sees as useful personally. SWIM thinks he might try an extraction with 2 if he has the self control for the sake of learning better ways of abuse. Unfortunately SWIM WOULD get more patches but they are damn expensive, his 30 day free trial is almost gone, and he prefers dex-amphetamine for his ADD and is cutting too deep into his stock pile to last 2 more psych trips (mphenidate is TOO abuse-able and euphoric for him). Hypothetically SWIM would encourage anyone who has access to these patches to attempt a simple water extraction. SWIM thinks water would work best.
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Old 21-01-2010, 23:05
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

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Has SWIJunkfuck tried this with the Daytrana patches? SWIM wants to write a thread on them but is down to his last 4-5 patches and might just plow through them tonight to get shit done. SWIM thinks a wash with methanol or water would work very well. The patch matrix is made up of an acrylic and silicone adhesive.

What does SWIJunkfuck think of a simple water extraction with them? SWIM notes they work EXTREMELY well when used buccualy and pretty damn well when used transdermally as well so an extraction isn't something he sees as useful personally. SWIM thinks he might try an extraction with 2 if he has the self control for the sake of learning better ways of abuse. Unfortunately SWIM WOULD get more patches but they are damn expensive, his 30 day free trial is almost gone, and he prefers dex-amphetamine for his ADD and is cutting too deep into his stock pile to last 2 more psych trips (mphenidate is TOO abuse-able and euphoric for him). Hypothetically SWIM would encourage anyone who has access to these patches to attempt a simple water extraction. SWIM thinks water would work best.
Swim has little experience with daytrana patches, but has studied some literature that says extractions can be done. Swim has extracted fentanyl pain patches in the past and this involves a CWE method and perforation of the drug containing component of the patch. Swim would recommend cold water extraction as noted above, although swim would try cutting the patch down the center, just to make sure the methylphenidate leaches out into the water at an acceptable rate and not in a controlled fashion like it would do with sweaty skin. It can be done Swim has seen several articles related to this. If Swim can get his hands on daytrana (rare in his locality) he will try this and post results.
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Old 28-01-2010, 11:13
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

SWIM will give input. SWIM hates to name the generics he's found success with abusing out of fear others will abuse them more recklessly or he will provoke a change in the formula. But SWIM will give input.

SWIY's description of snortable SR in SWIM's experience suggest Methylin ER in the U.S. It is true that this SR has little parachute value, and definitely can be snorted with Swiy's mentioned negative effects. (There is another SR generic which can be parachuted well.) It is true breaking a 20mg SR of this generic yields "chunks" comprised of the outer layer which contain the active substance and, if collected over time, can be used later. It is true SWIM has "extracted" MPH from Methylin ER 20mg tablets with water in a similar manner as described by the original poster with satisfactory results.

Swim has encountered two other SR generics where this method was not one bit useful.
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Old 30-01-2010, 03:26
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

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SWIM will give input. SWIM hates to name the generics he's found success with abusing out of fear others will abuse them more recklessly or he will provoke a change in the formula. But SWIM will give input.

SWIY's description of snortable SR in SWIM's experience suggest Methylin ER in the U.S. It is true that this SR has little parachute value, and definitely can be snorted with Swiy's mentioned negative effects. (There is another SR generic which can be parachuted well.) It is true breaking a 20mg SR of this generic yields "chunks" comprised of the outer layer which contain the active substance and, if collected over time, can be used later. It is true SWIM has "extracted" MPH from Methylin ER 20mg tablets with water in a similar manner as described by the original poster with satisfactory results.

Swim has encountered two other SR generics where this method was not one bit useful.
Swim has tried with concerta and it works. The problem is you have to be extremely careful with how swiy handle the pills because in order to extract maximum product one would need to cut the pill in half and remove the sponge thing from inside and soak that with the (now crushed) pill material.
Otherwise the yield may be very poor.
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Old 31-01-2010, 23:09
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

junkfuck.....can swim..make concerta in2 cocaine....and are u saying

sicilian_touch added 24 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

swim should disgaurd and throw away the sponge thing or add it in2 the acetone...hmmm, swim thought that if swim can find away 2....change or a 2 concerta so that it becomes a serotonin_norepinephine_dopamine reuptake inhaibitor(SNDRI),or triple reuptake inhibitor(TRI), is a drug which simultaneously acts as a reuptake inhibitor for the monoamine neourtransmitters serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT),norepinephine (noradrenaline) and epinephine(adrenaline), and dopamine, by blocking the action of the serotonin transporter(SERT), norepinephrine transporter(NET),and dopeamine (DAT), respectively. this in turn leads 2 increased extracellular concertrations of these neurotransmitters and therefore an increase in serotonergic, noradrenergic or adenergic and dopamineric neurotransmission. at lest that how swim learned thats how cocaine work's.......
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

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Would swiy then care to explain how various cats and dogs often use acetone to remove binder agents from amphetamines?

Amphetamines = not soluble in acetone
Binders = are soluble in acetone

If these animals decided to crush their prescriptions up, add acetone, let sit for a few minutes, filter through coffee filter... Discard liquid and dry then scrape filter... These clever animals now have some speed!

Swims personal experience says acetone dissolves the binder.


Pure acetone may dissolve the binder.

Swim tried nail polish remover with only a tiny bit of hope since it contains water with other Ingredient. Swim said it did not work at all and would recommend anyone else try polish remover.
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

works with concerta?can i do it without the last step in oven?

freedomf added 1398 Minutes and 52 Seconds later...

i Answer dont do it with concerta its a waste of time

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Old 18-02-2010, 21:47
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

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works with concerta?can i do it without the last step in oven?

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i Answer dont do it with concerta its a waste of time
Swim says it works... Its a pain in the ass... but it does.

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junkfuck.....can swim..make concerta in2 cocaine....and are u saying

sicilian_touch added 24 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

swim should disgaurd and throw away the sponge thing or add it in2 the acetone...hmmm, swim thought that if swim can find away 2....change or a 2 concerta so that it becomes a serotonin_norepinephine_dopamine reuptake inhaibitor(SNDRI),or triple reuptake inhibitor(TRI), is a drug which simultaneously acts as a reuptake inhibitor for the monoamine neourtransmitters serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT),norepinephine (noradrenaline) and epinephine(adrenaline), and dopamine, by blocking the action of the serotonin transporter(SERT), norepinephrine transporter(NET),and dopeamine (DAT), respectively. this in turn leads 2 increased extracellular concertrations of these neurotransmitters and therefore an increase in serotonergic, noradrenergic or adenergic and dopamineric neurotransmission. at lest that how swim learned thats how cocaine work's.......
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First of all I personally am not the expert on this at all... Swim is... So it would be appreciated if swiy would address swim and not me personally. Thank you.

Swim says that methylphenidate is not cocaine, nor can it be converted into cocaine, because as their chemical properties on the body are almost identical, methylphenidate is not chemically similar enough to be converted.

Methylphenidate is closer to BZP as far as the chemical itself, however with the addition of the ester group, it behaves differently, not like an amphetamine as BZP acts but closer to cocaine.

Swim also notes that methylphenidate may be used by some as an inexpensive alternative to cocaine for those who have a reason to use it for this purpose, and can be abused in a similar manner.

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Old 02-04-2010, 20:10
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

Swim read a bit on methadone extraction so Swim put it to the test

req, (i do recommend more but i only had 1 pill)
1 pill 10 mg ritalin, usually their never time release (at least Swims was not)
99% isopropyl alcohol (found at local rexal or shoppers less then 4 bucks for 500mL)
metal or aluminum cap or tin foil -recommended

process,
Swim crushed up the pill, Swim didnt have tin foil so he used a aluminum cap pouring the crushed pill (i repeat never use a plastic bottle cap, and please position the tin foil in a cap or bowl like shape, never flat)
Swim then poured 99% isopropyl alcohol maybe about 10ml and stried the solution with a (untangled) paper clip,
Swim let the solution stand in the sun or any light will do for about 2 hours.
at the begiing Swim stired every 10 mins for the first 40 mins and just let stand... for the remaing 80 mins
by this time all the alcohol will desloved but a bit of muck will be left over, use a zig zag to evapuate the remaining alcohol and let stand for another 10-20 mins, scrap the piece on a non stick surface of course, glass or metal is perfect and let stand for another 5 mins, then get a card and crush the pieces and infissicate threw your nose :P

it shouldnt be mushy when ur about to snort it, it should be flaky, just crush with a credit card and valya its ritalin powder again, but PUUUURRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE.

Thanks, Serious Swimming Sam

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Old 07-04-2010, 03:55
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

Swim's junk is quite flaky, and breaks into powder easily. It is not mushy, sticky, or nasty.

Swim smokes flakes, and snorts powder.

Ritalin is not very much fun on its own, swims #1 reason for extracting... Can't get shit from ritalin orally, but sorting and smoking seems to do the trick...

Which also explains why he is on adderall instead of ritalin for his ADHD... hahaha.
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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

SWIM and SWIMS's Therapist's "C" and "L" are trying your method, they just finished straining, which was a tedious task. "C" just threw the pyrex dish in the oven @ 250. "L" is very excited to see if it works. SWIM was informed that the Therapist's used 15 54mg concertas with about a 1/2 cup of water, maybe a bit more. SWIM will post once again when "L" and "C" are finished baking their scientific concoction.

sheri_giffords added 116 Minutes and 35 Seconds later...

SWIM and SWIMS's Therapist's "C" and "L" are trying your method, they just finished straining, which was a tedious task. "C" just threw the pyrex dish in the oven @ 250. "L" is very excited to see if it works. SWIM was informed that the Therapist's used 15 54mg concertas with about a 1/2 cup of water, maybe a bit more. SWIM will post once again when "L" and "C" are finished baking their scientific concoction. Well it's been like four hours now, or maybe not cuz SWIM is kinda high. "C" and "L's" concoction was a disaster because @ 250 it wasn't doing anything, so "C" turned the oven up to 400. "C" and "L" apparently forgot about the laboratory in the kitchen, so they failed. SWIM hears that the pyrex was brown, black, and smelled really bad. "C" tells "L" it was a heavy duty waste of time, ten dollars, and perfectly abuse able, drugs. EPIC FAIL!!

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Re: Methylphenidate extraction tek.

This is an old thread but I was wanting to share my personal experience with a cold water tek that seemed to yield a semi pure product (it is hard to tell since I have never had had a pure MPH product to compare).
Materials: Coffee filter, cold water, aluminum foil, and the Methylphenidate pills. (I only used 2 pills as to test the theory and not waste, but more would make the process easier).

Process: 1) lay out your sheet of tin foil, the coffee filter, water, and the bowl/plate you use to crush the pills next to eachother so things are organized and ready.
2) crush the pill(s) into a fine powder
3) Dump powder onto the center of the coffee filter and try to fold up the edges so none spills, and it stays in a nice little pile.
4) hold the coffee filter containing pills above the sheet of foil (form the filter much like one would when parachuting pills in a tissue/ napkin, but leave the top open so you can poor water into it)
5) Now take the water and start by putting a couple drops into it, keep adding until it is mostly dissolved, but is still a paste like texture (one would want to use less water so its not to much liquid)
6) you will see a milky colored liquid dripping through the filter onto your foil, (this is supposed to be your MPH after most of the binding agents are filtered), mix the solution and press down on the coffee filter, slightly squeezing it out.
7) you will wring it dry with your fingers above the sheet of foil, continuing to get as much water/MPH through the filter and onto your sheet as possible. Whats left in the filter is the binders and the liquid you squeezed out on the sheet is MPH.
8) discard filter with gunk in it, (unless you want to put a little more water through to get a better yield but I did not in this particular experiment, nor do I know if it would be worth it really)
9)spread the water/MPH solution around as evenly as possible on the foil, just like you would when making a sheet of cocaine (I was not able to find out for sure if adding sodium bicarbonate to the filtered liquid was neccessary to get a sheet, there were mixed opinions and ideas and I was anxious, so I just decided to try without)
10) let it dry, than smoke it sheet style, get spracked!

So I have alot more experimenting to do with this idea, and I know some say that MPH is not very soluble in water, but than others claim it to be very water soluble so I took a stab in the dark but I got very high off this sheet, like way ripped!! It tasted similar to Ethylphenidate but a little sweeter, it was not harsh or to smelly and a couple hits had me flying! I am happy I tried this because you get more out of the purer product with less unpleasant tastes or nasal clogging issues, I would recommend this to anyone who is wanting a quick, effective crack like high. the whole process took 15 minutes and that includes drying time, very easy. I probably could have explained it in a more simple way but I wanted to be sure that anyone who read it had enough detail to do it, So i apologize for such a complex explanation of such a simple process! Hope this helps someone have a good night, Cheers!

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