Combinations - psilocybe cubensis + san pedro + 2ci

[xctico]

How would a tea made of psilocybe cubensis+san pedro+2ci+mint and sessame [for flavour.] work out?


Mushroom and 2ci is a great combination by itself, but how would the mix behave if about 2 feet on dry pedro skins where added in the mix, with about 10 cubensis and some 30 ml of 2ci?


would it be 2 much to add a couple of amanitas [previously cooked], how would replacing the 2ci with lsd [10 drops more or less] work in the mix?


the idea is to get a couple of litters of space tea to start with a dosage of no more than 1 glass per person...





any opinions?

[dmax]

I was under the impression that psilocibin/psilocin were easily
destroyed by heat, thus making tea a bad option. The same for LSD.

[PenguinPhreak]

It depends how you make the tea. It is perfectly possible, but it is a
good idea to heat it as little as possible. There shouldn't be any
dangerous reactions with any of the substances you mentioned, but just
make sure the people taking it have plenty of experience with each of
the substances because it can get quite intense when you start mixing
things.

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

I would use fresh pedro juice, the un-cooked smoothy method. Fresh
cubies and fresh mint too, juiced and blended into the pedro juice. Add
in any of the chemicals you mentioned to the juice and blend in.
I would (as you mentioned) pre-cook the amanitas as a tea in water,
then let it cool off and blend in to the rest of it.



The sesame, I don't know about that, I guess if you like the flavor of it.



Fresh pedro juice seems to taste better than the dry skins, and isn't gritty like the dry skinns can be.



So I'd make it with everything fresh except for the amanita tea, as
above. Then if the taste is not good for you, mixing the whole
concoction 50/50 with either orange or grapefruit juice would be good.



Add a little candied ginger or sushi ginger on the side, to munch on to
clean the palatte between slugs of the juice, will keep your stomach
settled methinks.



This would prolly be quite the mindfuck Send me an invite to the party and I'll RSVP back

[nanobrain]

hot damn, that sounds like a ride on the vomit comet. you probably wont be able to stomach mint or sesame again after.

[blackbastard]

that sounds like a one way trip to the bathroom to pray to the porcelain god.


mad drug combos always seem like a good idea til you're tripping puking your guts up somewhere having a nasty ol time.


just swims view...

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

I was just trying to help out xctico, but I agree with you guys.



If I had all that stuff at my disposal, I'd do them one at a time, to
enjoy them each on their own terms. And I'd space out the
voyages, at least by 1-2 weeks in between them, to eliminate cross
tolerance effects causing reduced enjoyment from any of them.



I don't think it would necessarily be a trip to the bathroom, if one
was to consume it in a reasonable manner. A brew like that is
going to have effects taht last a long time. So if a SWIM was to
guestimate what the dose of that brew was going to be, then drink it in
1/3 portions. Drink 1/3, chew ginger and wait 15-20 minutes. Then drink
next 1/3, chew ginger and wait again, then do the last of it.
Like that the body and mind has time to acclimate to the effects, and
nausea will be greatly reduced if not totally eliminated. Also
this brew should be taken on an empty or nearly empty stomach.



There might be a "Mr. Toad's wild ride" on the shitter about 1-2 hours
after finishing it all, but that is common with many botanical
preparations. Usually the diarhea is not unpleasant, happends only
once, then SWIM is on his way to having a nice trip for 10 more hours
or so.



BTW, SWIM has used various combinations of xctico's ingredients list, but never more than two of them at once.


Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

[xctico]

thnx for the feedback everyone.


Brugmansia, thnx for the idea on the ginger, Im gonna use it to take the pedro even if I dont do the space tea. I really don't have all of the ingredients at my dispossal but I can get the natural ones without problem, and having that I can get the right person to put a couple extra ingridients...


Ill let you know the result.

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Please do

[elbow]

I think 2c-i might be bad for your teeth, although I don't recommend
combining so many drugs at once, if you do it you probably shouldn't
dissolve the 2c-i into a beverage.

[Chaote]

I was under the impression cacti and mushrooms had a cross tolerance so they could possibly cancel eachother out and you would only feel the 2ci and LSD and maybe some of the pedro because of the ratio of cacti:mushroom

[xctico]

Hey ppl. I ended up takin some 2ci-lsd cristals-lsd drops-alcohol-hashis tobacco n weed- &a little pedro. It was one hell of a trip, lasted me until way into the morning... The visuals where very real though i could not look at them directly, at least not with open eyes, I could see ppl who wheren't there, there was also some telephaty with my girlfriend and very enhanced touch [xtc like]. The hallucinations where very colourfull and everything felt happy and good. it also generated a lot of euphoria and childlike joy over small things [like playing at swings and rolling in the grass] had some deep conversations and felt a spiritual and psichological conection with everyone around. Histerical laughter will come from time to time. but, I kind of bad tripped when I had to get to work at 730 am and everything was still melting [I had to drive all the way across town, first to my place and then take a cab to the office] The computer screen at work stoped melting around noon... and I had to go with the good ole "keep quite and dont say anything incredibly stupid that would give your boss the hint that you're under the influence of strong psichadelic substances while at work, no matter how smart you think it sounds" [anything along the lines of THERE'S AN ALIEN TRYING TO EAT ME FROM INSIDE THE COMPUTER!!!! would probably do the trick]... so I didn't say a word until the melting stopped...





A good trip, just not on a thursday night...

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

xctico,



Great! (except for the lasting into the next day's work part, bummer)



Chaote,



When taken all at the same time, the most likely scenario is strong synergy between all the ingredients.



The cross tolerance comes in to play if SWIM was to dose different
psychededilcs in consecutive days. In a case like that, yes
SWIM's brain will get "numb" to the effects rather quickly. I
believe this has more to do with serotonin imbalance than anything
else. The tolerance effect happens if you take the same drug over
and over, or if it is different ones.



And unlike tolerance to opiates, wherein simply taking larger doses
brings on the same high as before; with tolerance to psychedelics SWIM
is unlikely to recapture the original magic no matter how much higher
he doses.



The best and really only cure to the tolerance problem, is to keep the
voyages infrequent, and treat every one as the very special occasion it
is.

[xctico]

Speaking of tolerance and serotonine inbalances... the next few days after the trip I was very anxios, very distracted and had strong mood swings. I take an SNRI [effexor] and I might have experience some tolerance towards the drug, or volatile serotonine levels.


That made me think that repeating the experience might not be a good idea, at least for a long time.

[draxon]

having experiance with the san pedreo and 2ci id say tea wouldnt be the best way to ingest mostly becuase the taste would be out of this world horrible

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Now Junior, be a good boy and take your medicine. The Doctor sez that the good medicine always tastes bad.

[respect]

you would throw up but if you could hold it in long enough to get in your system you would probably have a good time it would be foulest tasting brew known to man

[respect]

swim has aten many cacti he finds it very easy to put it in capsules, you could put everything into capsules together