Other - smoking/snorting methadone?

[brettoner]

swim is geting 60 40mg methadose can swim take it without useing it oraly? like smoking on foil or snorting it?

[adzket]

swim can only answer from a uk perspective where methadose comes in a light blue liquid in eather 5mg/1ml or 10mg/1ml this can be injected. however it sounds like swim is getting pills. it has been a long time since these have been avalible in the uk purly because they where so widly miss used as they where injectible after disolving into water. if swim does not find out any more information one could try and smoke it on a bit of foil like people do with subutext if it is smokable this way it will run a bit like h does. you could look up the other ingrediants of the pills on google to see what they are this will give you a beter idea if it is injectible remember sugars should not be injected also swiy could look up its melting point to check at what temp it would vaporise at. hope that helps point swiy in the right direction at least.

[laws0n]

NONONONONO

Now to answer why:

SWIY is probly getting "mathadone wafers" is what people like to call them. Their 40mg and can break into quarters. Although methadone is given out for pain 90% of the time it is perscribed for opiate addiction and withdrawl symptoms. Its a long lasting opioid so the logic behind that is since people already have their opioid receptors flowing their feeling fine and they dont need to worry about getting high. To SWIM it seems kind of stupid "give an addict drugs but make them legal so they get high and now they dont need to worry about it and instead of paying the drug dealers they pay the clinics"

Okay now since Methadone is primarily used to treat opiate addiction there is alot of safe gaurds on the pills so they are more abuse proof. They know that people on methadone are going to try to abuse them in other words so they made it so its alot harder if not impossible.

Injecting: There is a sand like substance so if its melted down it will be impossible to inject, it would get cloged in SWIYs veins probably before it gets SWIY high.

Snorting: Methadones are VERY big pills, the little OC 40s are like ~30% pure oxycodone so Methadone would probably be more like ~3% pure methadone meaning 97% of that pill is just binders and fillers. SWIM knows a friend that said he tried it once and it hurt REALLY bad.

Smoking on Foil: Again oxys work to smoke on foil because their ~30% pure oxy, SWIM dosent think that methadone would even smoke like OCs do, he can pretty much assure SWIY that actually. And even if they did SWIY would have to take like 60 hits just for 1 pill and it would be all binders and fillers, it would kill SWIY's lungs, taste REALLY bad, and SWIY will wish he didnt do that.

What SWIY can try: First just try taking them. Remember Mathadone is meant to get the opioid receptors flowing meaning it will get SWIY "high" Thats how its meant to be taken, and its not like with other opioids how its a painkiller first and a side effect is your high. Methadone is perscribed for pain rarely but its #1 job is to help addicts so yeah it will get SWIY "high"

What else: If SWIY REALLY dosent want to take them whole, then try parachuting or something but really their meant to be taken orally. There are no "tricks" or "cheat codes" (LOL) for methadone sorry man :/.

Good luck, and keep an open mind.

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[UNMASKED]

Originally Posted by laws0n

NONONONONO

Now to answer why:

SWIY is probly getting "mathadone wafers" is what people like to call them. Their 40mg and can break into quarters. Although methadone is given out for pain 90% of the time it is perscribed for opiate addiction and withdrawl symptoms. Its a long lasting opioid so the logic behind that is since people already have their opioid receptors flowing their feeling fine and they dont need to worry about getting high. To SWIM it seems kind of stupid "give an addict drugs but make them legal so they get high and now they dont need to worry about it and instead of paying the drug dealers they pay the clinics"

Okay now since Methadone is primarily used to treat opiate addiction there is alot of safe gaurds on the pills so they are more abuse proof. They know that people on methadone are going to try to abuse them in other words so they made it so its alot harder if not impossible.

Injecting: There is a sand like substance so if its melted down it will be impossible to inject, it would get cloged in SWIYs veins probably before it gets SWIY high.

Snorting: Methadones are VERY big pills, the little OC 40s are like ~30% pure oxycodone so Methadone would probably be more like ~3% pure methadone meaning 97% of that pill is just binders and fillers. SWIM knows a friend that said he tried it once and it hurt REALLY bad.

Smoking on Foil: Again oxys work to smoke on foil because their ~30% pure oxy, SWIM dosent think that methadone would even smoke like OCs do, he can pretty much assure SWIY that actually. And even if they did SWIY would have to take like 60 hits just for 1 pill and it would be all binders and fillers, it would kill SWIY's lungs, taste REALLY bad, and SWIY will wish he didnt do that.

What SWIY can try: First just try taking them. Remember Mathadone is meant to get the opioid receptors flowing meaning it will get SWIY "high" Thats how its meant to be taken, and its not like with other opioids how its a painkiller first and a side effect is your high. Methadone is perscribed for pain rarely but its #1 job is to help addicts so yeah it will get SWIY "high"

What else: If SWIY REALLY dosent want to take them whole, then try parachuting or something but really their meant to be taken orally. There are no "tricks" or "cheat codes" (LOL) for methadone sorry man :/.

Good luck, and keep an open mind.

well said above sir....swim has been on m-done for about a year. for pain. along with others pain meds.

people sure have large misconception of methadone and its uses

[vinceax]

its never a good idea to bang up pills.
swim is from uk and the pills over here (very hard to get) are only 5mg and quite big so are a very chalky hit and almost impossible to filter succesfully.people do do it but its a crazy thing to do. if swiys are 40mg maybe they can be filtered and some of the drug would get in syringe but most of it would be left in the residue. as the above post said, the makers are wise to this and it may well be not possible and certianly not worthwhile. Its a bad idea and usually only attempted by a neddle freak. any buzz would certainly not last very long anyway.
same with smoking or snorting, a waste of time and a waste of the drug.
the good thing about methadone is that it lasts so long when taken orally. all the methods swiy is considering would leave swiy hanging out a few hours afterwards at best, proberly their would be no affect at all.
if the dose is rite one can get a good buzz eating them and if swiy is hanging out they kick in fairly quickly anyway and relieve all withdrawals in no time. and if they dont then a higher dose is needed is all.

[ex-junkie]

Originally Posted by vinceax

its never a good idea to bang up pills.
swim is from uk and the pills over here (very hard to get) are only 5mg and quite big so are a very chalky hit and almost impossible to filter succesfully.people do do it but its a crazy thing to do. if swiys are 40mg maybe they can be filtered and some of the drug would get in syringe but most of it would be left in the residue. as the above post said, the makers are wise to this and it may well be not possible and certianly not worthwhile. Its a bad idea and usually only attempted by a neddle freak. any buzz would certainly not last very long anyway.
same with smoking or snorting, a waste of time and a waste of the drug.
the good thing about methadone is that it lasts so long when taken orally. all the methods swiy is considering would leave swiy hanging out a few hours afterwards at best, proberly their would be no affect at all.
if the dose is rite one can get a good buzz eating them and if swiy is hanging out they kick in fairly quickly anyway and relieve all withdrawals in no time. and if they dont then a higher dose is needed is all.

this is why people who want to "safely" inject pills, use syringe filters and butterfly needles. if people arent sure what they are, google the term "syringe filter pics". there are different sizes to properly filter out all the shit bits, and in the time swim was injecting physeptone she never had a dirty shot.

butterfly needle + pill filter + barrel. they all attach to each other.

swim never used heat to prepare her shots either btw. that is not good... no.

[laws0n]

Originally Posted by ex-junkie

this is why people who want to "safely" inject pills, use syringe filters and butterfly needles. if people arent sure what they are, google the term "syringe filter pics". there are different sizes to properly filter out all the shit bits, and in the time swim was injecting physeptone she never had a dirty shot.

butterfly needle + pill filter + barrel. they all attach to each other.

swim never used heat to prepare her shots either btw. that is not good... no.

SWIM would have to advise SWIY to NOT take this route. Think of how much of a hassle that would be, SWIY would need to go to a needle exchange or maybe buy them? (SWIM has no experience so he dosent know exactly where). Then all that hassle of filtering out all the fillers, preparation, blahblahblah. Also if SWIY dosent know what hes doing he could get permanent absesses and alot of gross stuff like that.

Not only will it take a long time but SWIY will still have some fillers in there, it would be impossible not to because SWIY will basically be filtering out 97% of the pill. Also SWIM dosent even know if its even possible to filter out some of the fillers at all because of how it acts like a sand like substance when crushed in water.

Seriously just take them, its what their meant to do, their meant to get people "high" so they dont use other stuff, but not the rush like other opiates.

SWIM isnt encouraging this but it would even be a better idea to trade someone for oxycodones or another opiate and snort those than to try to IV methadone :/.

[kailey_elise]

From what I've read, it doesn't seem that one could IV the methadone wafers. I know you can't IV the tablets (not that my best friend didn't try, try & try again when she had a script!)...but methadone is sooooooooo bioavailable orally (I think over 95%!), that there is very little gained from injecting it anyway. Most of what I've read from people who had access to methadone ampules (ie., methadone made for injecting) said there wasn't a rush anyway, and that it didn't really kick in any faster either. So why poke yourself full of holes for no gain?

So, one could just dissolve the wafer in water then drink it, like the directions say, or they could dissolve it in some water, then get a medicine syringe (doesn't have a needle), turkey baster, nasal bulb syringe or enema bulb syringe & "inject" the mixture into the rectum. There are threads about "opium enemas" if you want more info on that - it won't really increase the effects or onset all that much.

Just remember some things when it comes to methadone:

* It can take up to 2 hours to fully kick in, so wait 2 hours before redosing.

Some people feel it begin to work within 20 minutes, some take 90 minutes, but it takes about 2 hours (120 minutes!) to "hit" fully. Lots of people get into trouble because they don't feel it after 30 minutes and then redose.

* Methadone's euphoria is different from more "traditional" opiates/opioids.

Again, wait before redosing because you think you aren't "high enough"

* Methadone is pretty potent.

You don't need a lot of methadone, compared to oxycodone or morphine or something. 20mg can kill an opiate-naive adult. Start with 5mg & go up from there, SLOWLY.

Good luck! And again, methadone's really best taken orally. My best friend used to be prescribed them, and despite what I researched for her (at her request!), she continued to try to see if she could get "more" out of the pills by other Routes Of Administration. In the end, she told me she decided to just take them orally, or occasionally do the enema route if her stomach was upset & she was worried about puking the pills back up before they were absorbed. Heh.

~Kailey

Sorry, don't know where I got the idea that SWIY was looking to inject, but the answers stand for smoking and snorting as well. Snorting methadone HURTS LIKE HELL, and it doesn't get you high until the drip goes into your stomach ANYWAY.

[MarkoF]

Ok, swim have some pure methadone from lab. Its NOT extracted from pill.
btw, swim is on 100 mg a day.
1. snorting methadon (pure methadone powder)
Hurt to nose like hell. Effect is like drink it.

2. Smoke:
Effect is like drinking it. Methadon is in hcl form so maybe it must be transfered to base and then try.

3. Injecting (IV):
That is very potent and give a big rush. Feeling is like in begining of use opiates.
SWIM like it a lot.