Drug info - MDMA and strippers?

[Rookie1]

SWIM Has only tried MDMA once, It was about a 10th of a Gram and SWIM is 260lbs and 18 years old. The MDMA that SWIM used is very pure, lab tested, white powder. SWIM took the capsule the one time and stayed in his room and felt blankets and went for a walk around the block and such, you know, mild stuff. SWIM did not really feel like he was rolling hard, but he definitely got the gist of what MDMA does. SWIM has now made a plan to go with a couple of buddies to a strip club for the first time ever. SWIM has about a fifth of a gram of moli left and Is thinking about taking it before he goes to the club. Do you think this is a bad environment for SWIM's first social roll?


P.S. SWIM also suffered a loss a couple weeks ago of a family member with whom he was very close...do you think this will have an effect on him if he takes MDMA?

[Durd1e]

To be fair, swiy will probably end up ignoring the strippers all night or trying to talk to them about life etc. The first few rolls are a platonic experience - I mean that in both the modern and ancient way. Its hard to focus on anything to do with sex because you're so consumed with empathy. Its also a near perfect example of those emotions never really so accurately reflected in real life.

IMO, especially in light of your recent bereavement and the fact that its your first real roll, either a dance club where a lot of people will be on it or a friends house are the best options. Remember it may be likely that swiy will find it very difficult to hide the fact that he is on it. He may very well not want to hide it so choose your venue accordingly.

Having said all this swim has never been to a strip club...it may be that it all turns out quite well. The important thing is for swiy to cherish his first few rolls - they are enlightening in the truest sense and the magic does fade.

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[showcase]

Swim agrees with Durd1e, that was a great description. The social aspect of the roll will really allow you to communicate and get some deep feelings out. As much as Durd1es right about it being platonic and non-sexual, SWIM really likes to touch and hug girls (even tho he cant have sex). SO swiy might want to bring a LOT of money with him....

The problem you may have is that the girls there are in it for the $. They wont want to talk to you about your deep personal thoughts, and give you shoulder massages, unless of course you pay them for their time.

So swims answer: good idea but bring enough cash to keep at least one girl with you for about four hours. a grand would probably be good. OR go to the club and ask the girls if one of them want to do MD with you after work. Generally those working girls have a decent knowledge of drugs. (not all, and I'm not stereotyping I'm just sharing my experience)

A better idea would be to find a girl who you are friends with, and roll with her. But not everyone has friends who are into md.

[mdman]

Originally Posted by showcase

So swims answer: good idea but bring enough cash to keep at least one girl with you for about four hours. a grand would probably be good. OR go to the club and ask the girls if one of them want to do MD with you after work. Generally those working girls have a decent knowledge of drugs. (not all, and I'm not stereotyping I'm just sharing my experience)

A better idea would be to find a girl who you are friends with, and roll with her. But not everyone has friends who are into md.

Fuck spending a grand on strippers. Get a beautiful stripper (or two) to give you a nice, in depth, lap dance including letting you touch them. Pay enough for half hour increments. I wouldn't spend any more than $300, but thats just me.

I think the music and the sight of dancing naked girls alone would do.

SWIM rolled at a strip club once and ended up getting free lap dances, but didn;t get anything private. had enough fun with the atmosphere and having tities bounce on his rolling face.

ull have a blast man.

[SullyGuy]

Originally Posted by Rookie1

P.S. SWIM also suffered a loss a couple weeks ago of a family member with whom he was very close...do you think this will have an effect on him if he takes MDMA?

Absolutely.

If SWIY's life is in any form of emotional turmoil he/she should not roll... for my orangutan it meant 2 weeks of crippling depression and severe, irrational anxiety. He could not imagine what it would have been like if the emotional turmoil was something so large as the death of a loved one

[mdman]

Originally Posted by SullyGuy

Absolutely.

If SWIY's life is in any form of emotional turmoil he/she should not roll... for my orangutan it meant 2 weeks of crippling depression and severe, irrational anxiety. He could not imagine what it would have been like if the emotional turmoil was something so large as the death of a loved one

I think MDMA could only help cope with such a loss. but the best environment probably isn't the strip club.

[sandoz1943]

If SWIY is depressed the strip club may not be a good idea. If SWIY thinks they can handle the strip club it is a roller friendly atmosphere. Lots of dark, lots of flashy lights, music. Strip clubs will leave you alone as long as your not passing out. They tend to look the other way as long as you keep things on the down low. Word of warning though if any of the strippers figure out your rolling you wont be able to get rid of them. Sounds like fun at first but draws unwanted attention.

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[lineartransform]

Strip clubs are for coke.

If you take MDMA at a strip club, you'll either be kicked out immediately for being an empathetic goon who drools at the women in a wonderfully platonic and non-profitable way - or leave 8 hours later with your credit card maxed and no money after getting taken advantage of.

Realize that strip clubs keep an eye out for people fucked up just like you, and do their best to extract as much money as possible.

If you do go: no credit cards, only cash, and no way to take out more cash. It may seem like a good idea at the time to pay for more lapdances so her kids can get new things, but... sigh... it isn't.

[IAM.]

My prof has a ton of experience with strip clubs and mdma. He went through a few-month thing of doing just that combo. Take it from someone (who knows someone) who's actually done it a bunch... ITS GREAT!! Its a really good time and for my prof, not that expensive (as some suggested it may be) . Maybe it was just the club he and his friends frequented (but he doubts its the only one), but those girls knew at first glance what they were on and took good care of them. Free rub-downs, all kinds of extra attention... they even brought out a bag of suckers and other goodies for rollin'. Some of the girls themselves were rollin and he even traded a pill for an extra long dance. Everyone else in the club was ridiculously envious and were mean-muggin us the whole time, but we didnt mind obviously. Every time after that when we went, all the girls just flocked to us. We did spend some cash, but you might be surprised by the bonuses you get by being into something that the girls are too. I bet mdma is commonplace among strippers everywhere. Just a guess.

ENJOY!!! im really excited for you

[FrankenChrist]

SwiFr wouldn't do it. He would see through all the fakeness and the atmosphere would not look too welcoming to him either.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

First of all, sorry to hear about SWIY's loss. However, the fact that SWIY's considering this venture shows SWIY must be coping well. Sounds like it could be fun if it's a clean, classy strip club with good decor, music and lighting. It also depends how much interaction/touching is allowed and whether the strip club tolerates people who are rolling as once SWIY's rolling, SWIY may not want to hide it.
My plant has done both separately, but never together. It could be fun, but probably not for SWIY's first real MDMA and strip club experiences. The MDMA will likely make SWIY want to get up and move around and have deep conversation with friends and strangers, which won't really be welcome at a strip club. Likewise, the strippers won't interest SWIY as much in a sexual way.
SWIM's recommendation is that SWIY's first MDMA experience should be with friends at a gathering, house party or at a club/rave. Likewise your first stripclub experience should be drug free with a few alcoholic drinks to relax you a bit and help you enjoy the setting. Once SWIY has had those individual experiences, if SWIY feels like mixing the two, then go ahead.
Have fun

[ollywithbeans]

Swim really thinks a strip club is a far cry from the purity and euphoria of MDMA, he thinks as soon as you begin to roll you will realise that the "loved up" is genuine love and appreciation for all around you, not lust. Honestly Swim can't imagine the atmosphere being pleasant at all and knows that he would want out if he was rolling. If it is swiys first real roll he implores you to experience it in a more appropriate environment. Swiy will be chasing an experience like the first for the rest of his life and to have it marred by the capitalist poison of exploiting women for money would be a terrible shame.

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very good and true advice thank you

[bLuE]

swim went to the strip club on MDxx, he had fun but he can totally see how if in was one of his first rolls it would have been a totally conflicting environment.