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Question: Is it possible for anything to 'cease to exist'?
I saw the following definition of the word 'Existance' Quote:
</blockquote> But when i saw the Antonym "nonexistance" at the end of the definition, i began to think about the true meaning of the concept of not existing... Consider the fact that everything that has EVER existed, whether it be a grain of sand or a star we can barely see through a telescope, have all had some kind of impact on this reality as we know it... A microscopic piece of dirt thousands of feet below the earth may not have ever been seen by any living organism, but it's supporting the piece of dirt directly above it, which is also supporting the dirt above it, until thousands of tons of dirt later we find the grass we walk on... Even though that piece of dirt has never been witnessed, it still exists and the grass we walk on is proof of that. But is it possible for that dirt (or anything else) to ever stop existing? Now if that dirt happens to drop into the earths core and get melted by magma, it would cease to be dirt... but does it still 'exist', just in a different form? Another example would be the old proverb "If a tree falls down in the woods and no one is around to hear it- does it make a sound?</font>". This one has likely been discussed way too many times to remain interesting, but im sure you can see my point. My great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great (etc), grandfather has obviously been dead for many many years and his body has probably decayed completely by now. If his body is gone, everything he owned or touched is gone, no living being remembers him and there are no records of him ever being alive... does he still exist?. Im here, so he must have existed at some point... does that mean he still exists, because proof of him existing is still here? I'd love to hear your views on this... </font> |
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Butterfly Effect - "Sensitive dependence on initial
conditions." A chaotic effect created by something seemingly insignificant, the phenomenon whereby a small change in one part of a complex system can have a large effect somewhere else. Chaos Theory The study of unpredictable and complex dynamic systems that are highly sensitive to small changes in external conditions. Law of Conservation of Energy The fundamental principle of physics that the total energy of an isolated system is constant despite internal changes. Law of Conservation of Mass A fundamental principle of classical physics that matter cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system. |
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Everything that exists has always existed, and will always exist. Matter just changes its form. It cant be destroyed or disappear.
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Although, that is considering at an atomic level. Have you always exists? No, just all the atoms that make you have.
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Matter to cease to exist? . . . or a thing ceasing to exist? If I go to Jack in the Box, and buy a Cheese Burger, that Burger is an existence. When I eat it, that Burger ceases to exist; now it is a chewed-up mess of meat, cheese and bread in my stomach. Later, my stomach and intestines dissolve that mess into digested proteins, fats, and carbs. Still later, the remnants are disposed of. In this scenario, the Cheese Burger has been created, and destroyed. My body has taken part of it and used it, and changed its form further, into Cell-food. This Cheese Burger has ceased to exist, and will NEVER come back into that exact form again. It's gone forever. Now, "I Love Lucy" re-runs WILL last forever, and never change. Route 66 was created. Millions of people drove on it for years. Then, a new Freeway came into existence. Route 66 ceased to exist. Montgomery Wards was the Original catalog Superstore. If you wanted something, it was probably in their catalog. It remained in business for well over 100 years. Then one day it Died. It's gone. It's not coming back. It has ceased to exist. Their formerbuildings now house new companies (which will probably all cease to exist some day). Love is a powerful emotion. It may be the strongest emotion. A man and woman can be in love. Does their love last forever? Some people love one another until the day they die. After they are both dead, do they STILL love one another? (I don't know.) A so-so joke: What's the difference between love and Herpes? Herpes is forever. This Thread. One day it will be deleted. Does it still exist when it is no longer here? Let's all wait and find out. |
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Their is more to existence than the physical realm. There is more
to what each of us see. It is through the process of seeing "it" that one becomes enlightened. |
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matter can be converted to energy, and energy to matter. all matter is energy and energy cannot be created or destroyed. so all matter has always existed in one way shape or form. but has everything always existed? i know the me that i am now definately hasnt. has consciousness in general? that all depends on whether consciousness is a localised phenomena dependant on the physical brain, and so a form of matter, or whether consciousness is something else. and what form this 'something else' takes. |
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the only thing that truely exists is nonexistance. the the reality of chaos, the only constant is nothingness. before anything there was an infinate nothing. in infinity EVERYTHING can and will happen; hence the spontanious appreance of existance, and this universe as we may know it. however, these things are not infinate, and therefor do not exist infinately, and therefore do not truely exist in the longrun.
in an infinate space a vortex begins, but will always end. the vortex of reality has begun and like any vortex patterns (you and i and the tree and the milky way and the marble and the pink elephant) will emerge, but will always end. all paterns end, and the only true infinate is nonexistance. or perhaps i over feed my cat. |
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if time (as we know it)is a component of this universe, then the concepts of 'before', 'after' and 'now'were created with this universe. |
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deebee lee...
Last edited by Leafteaner; 07-02-2009 at 09:01. |
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Does a room exist before I build the walls either physically or just
conceptually ? Once I build the walls, isn't the room just the empty space those walls enclose?What distinguishes that same empty space before and after the walls are built?Of what do the walls need to consist of to ensure that they "in fact enclose a room?"Isn't this all one means by existence, "something" being enclosed by one's MIND?? |
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is there such thing as nonexicstance or is there such thing as nothing do u recon every including "nothing" is somthing wich is enerigy or is it a ying yang equally amout of nothing as there is somthing or am i talkuing shit? i think i will always excist as there is no time, but i may loose conciousness, but does that mean i cese to excist? i could be talking shit but how about this say when i die i have a dream, that dream feels like 1000 years but in true my body is deid when my body is daid would i still be alive if i feel that i am that doesnt make much sence i know.... when we die we cold just start a new dream do the people in our dreams live feel are our dreams another persons reality? has any one ever had a full life trip? and woken up back at here first acid trip or somthing?? sorry about my unconstucted post i just thought i would give a few questions |
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