Deja Vu

[egoDEATH]

Forgive me if this topic has already been discussed. I'm just curious to see everyone's theories on futuristic visions. How can we see into the future if it hasn't happened yet?

[Solidly-here]

I am looking into the Future: I am going to Die . . . someday.


Every day of my life, I see into the future. Most of the time it is: "Oh, what if THIS happens?"


Before I go see my Best Friend, I look into the Future. I think about what will happen when we meet. I think about things to talk about. When I get there, I find out that I am a Prophet. Most of the things I had thought about talking about, actually happened. I made them happen. I have the ability to make my future; I do it every day; I am getting Good at it. I am a lucky guy.


A lot of people see a Futuristic Vision of going to Law School. A lot of those same people, go to Law School (Gee, how did that happen?). Others know that when they visit their Mother-in law, that she will put them put them down, and say nasty things to them. Wow! She did! They are Prophets too.


And as far as the Science Fiction world, if people did not look into that World, many of the inventions would never be made. Imagination is a beautiful thing; it needs to be exercised. Who knows? You may come up with something that will change the World. All you have to do is wait 20 years, and look back.

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Time is not a ruler or yardstick, that has a start and and end. If it were, we could never see into the future or into the past.



Time is rather like a mobius loop, continuous and without end, looping back onto itself.



We can, with certain techniques like meditation or certain drugs, view the past or present.



What we have not yet discovered, is a way to jump out of the
observation mode and into the real mode. We can visit past and
future in the mind, but not in our corporeal bodies. At least not yet .
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Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

[Trippopotamus]

I have a thoery that Deja Vu, is just a dream we had one night. Many
times when i actually remember dreams, they seem to happen similarly in
real life. Really i dont see this as being psychic, but more as, the
subconscious recollecting what happened that day and making estimates
for the next.



The mind is a very powerful thing, and i often wonder why
sometimes when i relax and dont try to do something difficult, it comes
more easily. I think this is because of the subconscious, your
subconscious is always on and taking notes on everything that happens.
When you have a gut feeling that something is going to happen, and it
does, it may not have been just a lucky guess, but your subconscious
making a very educated guess.



So I believe it is impossible to know the
future, but very possible to predict it. Just like Solidly-here was
talking about making estimations, i agree, and sometimes you can do it
unknowingly, producing Deja Vu.



If that makes sense to anyone let me
know because i have a feeling im explaining my thoughts awful poorly.
Edited by: Trippopotamus

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Yes, that makes sense to me.



And there is also deja vu of memory of physical locations and places,
that has happened to me a few times in my life. Almost as if I am
re-incarnated, and in a past life I knew a place that I never was
before in my current life. Ever have that?



For example, when visiting Hong Kong, I saw a pamphet about the
Temple of 10,000 Buddhas, over on Kowloon side. So I took the
train to the town nearest the temple, which was in the forest on top of
a mountain outside of town. I got lost, and walking around I
couldn't find anyone who could tell me where to go, at least not in a
way I could understand, as I don't speak Chinese. Yet I "had a
feeling" I knew exactly where it was, and where I was, like I'd been
there before. So I just took off up the mountain, no trail,
crawling through the bamboo forest. I arrived at the temple 1/2
hour earlier than some other tourists on the bus, who didn't get lost
and followed the winding stone stairway up the other side of the
mountain to the temple.


Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

[The_Great_Sage]

in quantum physics they say that daja vu is just your brain getting
confused. you experiance something or have a dream, then you experiance
something simalar, your brain doesnt know reality from fiction, so i
thinks you are back in the previous experiance and it sends a great
feeling of nastalgia hrough your body.



i disagree with this theory because if our brain doesnt know the
difference and gets bumble fucked then how do we maintain knowledge
about the current situation and dont just relapse to what we did the
first time. maybe our brain works on two levels ... or more fuck
i am tripping out

[pinkfloyd2048]

I attended a guest lecture from a retired military research scientist who does/did research on deja vu. Like whatothers have said above, random fluctuations in brain patterns can cause centers for memory and perception in the brain to become out of sync, so your mind interprets the experience twice (in nanoseconds) to give the feel that he/she has been in a given situation before. These fluctuations illustrate one of the key components of quantum theory: uncertainty. The brain fires deliberately within itself to produce thought, but a misfire can stimulate neuron that wasn't supposed to be activated.Afluctuation to a nontargeted neuron canproduce no further firing of the renegade action potential or have a catastrophic effect as is seen in a grand mal seizure when otherwise inactive neurons begin to fire rhythmically from lobe to lobe. With quantum mechanics, one can explain deja vu as an activation of a past memory through a random fluctuation in the brain.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urnchemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />


Also, loss of data across the corpus callosum can cause déjà vu by having two sides of the brain of slightly different clocks much like the quantum mechanics explaination.


The lecture continued with what I thought to be the most logical explanation of deja vu. Past perception, like memories or gut instinct, can make one feel that they have been a place before even though they have never been there before. Visual cues, sound of the atmosphere, touch, and especially olfactory cues (and taste) can make one feel that they have experienced a sensation before due to the power of perception/sensation.


Interesting facts: children experience deja vu more than any group studied, and the number of deja vu experience declines with age.Some people who have experience deja vurepress/deny such experiences with older age. Deja vu has been reported by personsin the <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urnchemas-microsoft-comfficemarttags" /><st1:country-region wt="on"><st1lace wt="on">US</st1lace></st1:country-region> up to 75% depending on the study.


(Side note: The US Army gave psychedelic amphetamines to chimps as early as the 1950's which have recently become popular street drugs like MDMA).

[insanity]

I heard that during a salvia trip, people tend to have massive deja vu attacks and sometimes people experience travel to other times during their life. sounds trippy. like time travel. in the matrix deja vu is a glitch in the system.

[icecrew]

I did salvia just 1nce in my life and i must edmit it was some pretty
strong shit i didnt even expect it to hit me the way it did, i felt
like i was a fly and when i say fly i mean i couldnt comprehend shit
but see whatever i was seeing and what i saw was me being stuck in some
kind of a pattern that i couldnt get out of no matter how hard i tried
the pattern just kept going down and down and i didnt know what it was,
prolly just like a fly stuck in a spider web tryin 2 get out but cant,
after i got back to an OK state of comprehension people said i took off
my shirt really fast and was swinging my arms in the air like i was
trying to fight something...lol isnt that some shit, not that this has
anything to do with the topic i just wanted 2 talk about my 1st trip on
salvia which i dont know if ill do again im not a big fan of trippy
shit like that

[pabel_giboon]

icecrew, which potence was the salvia x5, x10, x40?