Experiences - Bad Trips on DXM

[notawoman]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before.

Swim used to do dxm about 600-700 mg once a week or less. and a few times with grapfruit juice ( fun haha ).

In all my dxm trip I've never encountered a bad trip, just somewhat boring trips I'm assuming from the frequency.

Even on one of my first trips, swim and his friend were drinking earlier and got a decent drunk on. Swim and his friend got bored so they decided to stop by a store and pick up some dxm. We made sure we had the right stuff and shared a large bottle, probably about 300mg's each.

After we finished we waited for it to kick in, and it did. So we walked near a construction site. Swim decided it would be a good idea to punch a side mirror on a construction vehicle. Swim got a decent sized gash in his knuckle, but didnt feel anything. But swim was still having fun.


So have any of you had bad trips?
I would like to hear your stories.

[sandoz1943]

No trip is bad, just bad setting, bad company, bad planning, bad mind set, bad attitude. There is no bad trip even the most hellish experience is usually pretty funny when enough time has passed.

[BloodyMuffin]

you say that... but swim has definitely had bad trips... they do exist. he's never had one on DXM, but he can assure you that some trips are just bad outright. if you look at some of my posts in the shrooms forum you'll see what i mean. ultimately they were good experiences, but the trips themselves were awful.

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Would love to see this expanded upon.

[Graduisic]

As sandoz1943 has said, generally speaking a bad trip comes from environmental factors. The worst SWIM has dealt with is coping with paranoia from potentiating DXM with marijuana. He saw a police cruiser outside of his apartment building and was blowing smoke out his windows for awhile before he noticed it. This made SWIM panic, but he could not look away from the car. Anxiety rushed through SWIM's body, fantasies started rolling through his head about the cop knocking on the door and him getting taken away while his girlfriend was sleeping. SWIM made sure to see what time he noticed the car and what time it drove away: 30 minutes. That 30 minutes lasted longer than the rest of the night, and ruined the chance of having any fun. He took 900 MG of cough gels that night, with his tolerance it would be the equivalent to the 600 MG trips he did way back when he started.

DXM by itself, though, the worst that has come from it is a dull and boring trip; a buzzkill.

I think it is important here to understand frame of reference here as well, are we comparing DXM to other substances like psilocybin or LSD? When SWIM thinks of a bad trip he remembers these sorts of nightmares, and it makes a 'bad' DXM trip look like Little Debbie. If we're comparing apples to apples (DXM to DXM), experiences, description of feelings and psyche, etc. would be appreciated. Was the experience caused by internal factors (unusual feelings, etc) or was it brought on by something you saw?

[Zepfan]

Originally Posted by Graduisic

As sandoz1943 has said, generally speaking a bad trip comes from environmental factors. The worst SWIM has dealt with is coping with paranoia from potentiating DXM with marijuana. He saw a police cruiser outside of his apartment building and was blowing smoke out his windows for awhile before he noticed it. This made SWIM panic, but he could not look away from the car. Anxiety rushed through SWIM's body, fantasies started rolling through his head about the cop knocking on the door and him getting taken away while his girlfriend was sleeping. SWIM made sure to see what time he noticed the car and what time it drove away: 30 minutes. That 30 minutes lasted longer than the rest of the night, and ruined the chance of having any fun. He took 900 MG of cough gels that night, with his tolerance it would be the equivalent to the 600 MG trips he did way back when he started.

DXM by itself, though, the worst that has come from it is a dull and boring trip; a buzzkill....

Cannabis and DXM happen to be Monkey's absolute favorite drug combination.

From Monkey's experience, DXM and cannabis both potentiate each other. SWIY's negative experience underscores the fact that marijuana is a serious drug in its own right. The problem is that most people don't give it enough respect. Using cannabis to potentiate a DXM high, isn't the same, for example, as potentiating an opiate high with cimetidine, grapefruit juice, etc. DXM and weed have an incredible, complex synergy, according to Monkey.

It appears to Monkey as if the cannabis was strongly potentiated by the DXM in this instance, not the other way around. If Monkey were out of his skull, tripping on DXM alone, he doubts that the negative environmental factor of a police car would have any impact on his trip. He would dissociate from the experience.

For that matter, Monkey is an experienced user of weed, and finds it unlikely that cannabis would trigger such a bad DXM trip for him, at normal doses. When Monkey first started smoking, however, it would have been quite possible for paranoia to take control.

According to Monkey, psychological factors seem to be as important as the actual physical effects of drugs on one's brain, whether cannabis, DXM, alcohol, what have you. This becomes less predictable when combining substances. Monkey disagrees with Graduasic that a bad DXM trip, not combined with other drugs, is impossible. He thinks panic could easily result from someone taking more DXM than they are psychologically ready to handle. He couldn't imagine going to the third plateau on his first DXM trip.

[BloodyMuffin]

Originally Posted by Zepfan

Cannabis and DXM happen to be Monkey's absolute favorite drug combination.

From Monkey's experience, DXM and cannabis both potentiate each other. SWIY's negative experience underscores the fact that marijuana is a serious drug in its own right. The problem is that most people don't give it enough respect. Using cannabis to potentiate a DXM high, isn't the same, for example, as potentiating an opiate high with cimetidine, grapefruit juice, etc. DXM and weed have an incredible, complex synergy, according to Monkey.

It appears to Monkey as if the cannabis was strongly potentiated by the DXM in this instance, not the other way around. If Monkey were out of his skull, tripping on DXM alone, he doubts that the negative environmental factor of a police car would have any impact on his trip. He would dissociate from the experience.

For that matter, Monkey is an experienced user of weed, and finds it unlikely that cannabis would trigger such a bad DXM trip for him, at normal doses. When Monkey first started smoking, however, it would have been quite possible for paranoia to take control.

According to Monkey, psychological factors seem to be as important as the actual physical effects of drugs on one's brain, whether cannabis, DXM, alcohol, what have you. This becomes less predictable when combining substances. Monkey disagrees with Graduasic that a bad DXM trip, not combined with other drugs, is impossible. He thinks panic could easily result from someone taking more DXM than they are psychologically ready to handle. He couldn't imagine going to the third plateau on his first DXM trip.

In Swims experience, bad trips have usually been caused by weed when paired with shrooms. the problem is that the shrooms are usually already affecting him and so he doesnt realize how much he's smoking. he gets too high and the combination begins a spiral of paranoia coupled with irrational thinking. he knows now that its not the shrooms alone for two reasons. one, during a trip bad thoughts only ever start entering his mind when he starts smoking, and two, he has gotten too high before, and it leads to a toned down version of a bad trip in which the difference is his ability to rationalize what he's feeling.

for this reason swim believes that on any substance one must be acutely aware of the fact that weed is not just an enhancer, and that too much will almost certainly lead to a bad trip due to the paranoia inducing effects in combination with the severely fucked up state (to put it bluntly) that one is in. A suggestion from swims personal experience is this, if you try the drug with weed and you have a bad trip, try it again without weed and see what happens. chances are you'll have a decent trip, or at least be able to stop a bad trip when it starts. also, if you fail to grasp or refuse to believe that weed should be taken seriously, then without taking anything else, smoke as much weed as you possibly can at least once in your life just to get a feel of the awesome power that it has. swim knows that this kind of experience gave him a new respect for it.

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Excellent advice and information for first timers.

[kroozer]

Swim decided to do an extraction of four bottles of DM syrup.
After all procedures were done, his pet rabbit decided to take two of the capsules.
Mind that is very close to 710mg each. The rabbit decided to drink a whole 16 oz of lime juice to activate the hbr.
Swim soon puked violently and could not walk. Which is not uncommon,.

swim started to overheat and feared stroke. All it could see was wiggly electric looking impulses in the back of his brain. Swim's fellow carried him back to his apt. and applied cool rags on the neck. Clothes were soaked and swim is thankful for the rabbits help. otherwise swim would have been left in the middle of nowhere not able to walk and probably died.

Swim will keep the dosage at about 500-600mg.
There have been people die at 1400mg level

[notawoman]

That is alot of dxm. When swim was at high 3rd plat/4th plat swim saw what looked like electricity flowing through swims walls. Swim also got very hot, but swim's overall trip was fun.

[Walking_On_Clouds]

SWIM has only had 1 bad experience on DXM. Some friends were rolling and SWIM did not have any money for rolls so he snagged 2 bottles of throat spray. This was a total of 800mg. He chugged both down. Just thinking of the taste makes swim want to throw up... SWIM felt good after the taste went away until he experienced painful nausea. SWIM laid on the floor, drifting in and out of reality for an hour until he threw up. While laying on the floor SWIM's roommate came by but SWIM does not remember this... His friends went on a walk but he did not feel like going as he was still feeling a bit sick. SWIM curled up in the fetal position for 30 minutes until his friends came back with some good ol' cocaine. After a line SWIM's face lit up like a christmas tree and he felt great! The rest of the night was spent robowalking around a park and listening to good music.

SWIM finds that 800mg is a lot of DXM to stomach and will probably never do more than 600mg again. SWIM's favorite time on DXM was watching star trek in theaters on 400mg. It blew swims mind.