Drug info - nutmeg and drug tests

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by Greenport

That's a bad way to go, heh. Nutmeg contains a variety of essential oils including myristicin and elemicin (which are said to be responsible for some of these effect) along with safrole, and swiM thinks eugenol among others. while essential oils are not super-toxic, they could cause negative effects at doses as high as required for a nutmeg 'trip' and also some are believed to be carcinogenic due to their ability to be oxidized by the body forming epoxides, which can bond to DNA and cause damage.

Firstly, the trip is not like a mushroom trip or the like. It takes like five hours for effects to be felt, then they persist through the 24 hour mark with after-effects continuing for up to 72 hours. The effects? Well swiM reads that they are like a mixture of acid, mdma and pot. Shulgin IIRC said something about nutmeg once, stating he thought that perhaps at high enough doses some of the essential oils could be aminated inside the body. If this is true then small amounts of amphetamines (MDA, TMA, MMDA and the corresponding amphetamine from eugenol) would be formed. This seems to fit the effect profile well. However there is no way of knowing exactly how much would be formed or if this even happens. It is obvious though that it is a metabolite of these oils that is responsible for the effects it has.

is it possible if any of those drugs are made within the body for them to show up on a drug test? if thats the case, would that be a good way of tesing to see whether or not it does indeed make those drugs in the body?

side note: is nutmeg a good source of safrole for mdma synthesis?