Experiences - LSD vs LSA

[ziggy]

what kind of trip will lsa give u compared to trippin on lsd. and what is an lsa overdose like? really bad or not?

[tony_mac]

I've never tried either of them, but from all that I've heard LSA isthe weaker cousin of LSD. I'm ordering some seeds off tha net that contain LSA. I'm planning to mix up about4 different kinds and go for a ride. Stay tuned for results.

[Alfa]

The will both get you tripping, but LSA has far more side effects. A LSA overdose is really BAD. I am not risking the chance of getting one ever again. Search the forum for LSA to find out more.

[tony_mac]

I've heard that you can get quite queasy from some of the seeds and such, especially Hawaiin Woodrose. You have to make sure to take ALL the skin off the seeds first or you'll be puking buckets. But I like to experiment, so I'll try it out once.

[ziggy]

do you get any visuals from lsa. and is it worth the effort of making it for the trip? i wanna know cause acid is scarce and shrooms are to expensive around where i live. plus i am always willin to try something new.

[tony_mac]

I'm not really the best one to comment on it, since I've never actually tried it, but I'm ordering some LSA seeds to try it out. LSA is a hallucinogen (you'll get visuals). What attracted me to it is how easy it is to take. Just crush up the seeds and eat 'em. Look for Morning Glory seeds (Heavenly Blue are supposedly the best) or Ololiuqui seeds. Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seem to have the most nauseating effects of any of them, so steer clear. Do a google search and you'll find websites offering them, but DO NOT order them from a gardening shop beacuse they are treated with pesticides and the like. Make sure they're untreated.

[tony_mac]

Now that I've looked around a bit more, you should probably make a tea or use an extraction method so you don't lose your lunch.

[ziggy]

tell me how it turns out

[anxiety]

Morning Glory or Hawaiin Baby Woodrose Seeds are best. Be careful how you prepare them for consumption. Not only are most commercial seeds coated with a pesticide, the seeds also contain toxins. Do not eat them, or you will get extreme nausea. Especially in doses of 250 seeds or more of morning glory. The best method is an extraction method using solvents. However, this must also be prepared with special attention as to NOT accidently ingest any of the solvents used.

[Alfa]

Baby woodrose gives far more side effects than morning glory.

[Jester]

LSA takes you to the very edge of an LSD trip and no farther. It will take you up too the point where you're a loiile antsy and anxious and start to get a little bit visual (things start to move a bit, but no major color shift or fractalization), then stops going farther. It also has a tremendous body load as opposed to LSD. Because of the unpleasantries of LSA and the trouble that needs to be gone through for an extraction, I recommend that if you want a more LSD-like trip to go with a phenethylamine (I strongly recommend 2C-E). They're relatively cheap (likely less than the seeds per dose,assuming you buy from a chemical supply company)

[tokingchicken]

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Originally posted by Alfa on 14 April 2004
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Baby woodrose gives far more side effects than morning glory.
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not really, hbwr u dont need very many seeds, so people tend to eat them and the taste is fine and the nausea wont even make u throw up much.plus when u do a water extraction which alot of people do it gets rid of alot of the nausea chems because they arent water soluable, but the morning glorys nausea chem is water soluable so the people that do that feel nausea.


so morning glorys have more nausea also because u have to eat so many.</BLOCKQUOTE>

[LSA_CVX]

if you take 1-2 dramamine it will settle your stomach. take 4 if you want a really crazy trip (dissociative LSD...) i've been told pot helps too.



from personal experience and what others have told me, you can usually get away with 2 trips without much nausea but after that it gets bad. i sometimes eat the seeds, take a nap to get away from the nausea and wake up feeling very nice while my walls start breathing.

[Alfa]

Wildgrown or self cultivated seeds still give you nausea. I have found no proof anywhere that the nausea chems are anything more than a myth. Does anybody have info on this? It is not the amount of seeds, but the alkaloid content that gives most of the side effects.

[WhiteDwarf]

&lt;&lt;LSA is a hallucinogen (you'll get visuals). &gt;&gt;


Marijuana is considered a hallucinogen but I never get visuals off of it.

[RoboCop]

I've been doing LSA everynight for about 4-5 days, LSA can give nice open and closed eye visuals, I've gotten some pretty hard trips from LSA, but my best trip was 200 MG seeds and a 4oz of robo it was a very hard and colorful trip. About 30 minutes ago I took 350 MG seeds...we'll have to see how it turns out.

[soulraver132]

ive did morning glorys 3-4 times the 1st time was a really bad trip the second time felt kinda like x all warm and fuzzy but no real visuals quickly got boring..really fun body buzz

the 3rd time was allright but no fun really....and now they dont do anything nuthin no matter how many i eat or wash with no chlorine water

[Bodhisattva500]

ive taken a MASSIVE dose of LSA an it wasnt fun at all. I tryed an extraction with grain alcohol on about 10 grams of seeds because that a heavy dose. i felt the effects slightly. i estimated that i had gotten a little less than on third of the active components out so i decided to do the same extraction with about 30 grams of seeds. Only this time i was experienced and better at it. I pulverized the seeds better and what not. so i ate all the gell i had extracted adn it slowly kicked in over the next 3 hours. The effects were kind weird and dark. like seeing shadows that werent there. the weird thing was that i felt kinda sick and went to bed and had no trouble sleeping. i slept for a few hours and had to work the next morning. when i woke up I was tripping way harder than when i had went to bed. My balanc was way off and every time i moved slightly i felt sick. I barely managed to call in sick and went back to sleep. i slept for about 8 more hours and got up to piss. I could barely walk and every thing was really loud. the piss going in tthe toilet hurt my ears. i went back to sleep for anohter 8 hours. i woke up feeling almost back to normal and went and hug out in my igloo outside and smoked weed till i was normal. i estimate in a 28 hour period i slept for about 24 of them. i felt the effects for about two days. I guess the extraction worked better than i thought so i probably got about 25 grams worht of active ingredients which is way tooo much......be careful with your extractions!!!!

LSD and LSA are very similar. the only big difference is it takes a lot more
LSA to be trippint he same. the more substance the more chance of bad
side effect(nasea,...)

[Lynchx]

I thought LSA was horrible when I eat Woodrose seeds n such, gave me real bad sharp pains in my legs and very bad paranoied thoughts like people was plotting on me etc..

[zingos]

Woodrose gives you gas and cramps. At higher doses, you might get bad
bodily aches and nausea. If you make a tea or extraction, the negative
effects are dramatically reduced. In my experience, a moderate dose of
Woodrose tea will give you the mental effects of a low dose of LSD,
without the visuals.

[wednesday]

place Hawiian baby woodrose seeds in a mug, pour distilled water over top, microwave for 45 seconds chew seeds, chase with the water you boiled them with

its that simple

Paul

[jarka]

Haven't really done acid, but I've done LSA couple of times. It indeed gives you visuals and cool body buzz but I can't sleep when it's mental effects wear off. Haven't tried any extraction methods or making tea or smt, but maybe it helps to reduce the nausea or even helps me to sleep. Next time I'll take some sleeping pills.

[Alfa]

Bodhisattva500:


The experience you describe comes very close to mine. I took three caps with an unknown amount of pure LSA combined with Sida cordifolia herb. Sida has non of the effects described here:


Strong sedating effect, combined with extreme dizzyness comes on. Then some naussea. Pupil dilation. Themore time passes the more cognitive functions decrease. Speech and thoughts go slower. I feelas if I'm ill. Astrong desire to sleep comes over me. Heartbeat and hartrate is decreasinga lot.Sounds are strange and loud. Then I pass out. Faintly I am aware of sounds around me as if the sounds come trough a tunnel. A friend of mine took 2 caps andat some point she starts to search for me, while a lay nearby. I find it hard to wake up. I am tripping hard, but strange. Everything is blurred, twisted and shadows did strange things. She tells me thatit has hit her hard and it doesn't feel good. I want to get up, but I can't. I try to lift my arm, but it feels like lead.My thought goes at extreme slow speed and formulating sentences takes an large amount of effort. I try to sit, but this takes about 10 minutes, although it seems a lot longer. Like with all psychedelics time perception is changed greatly. My body's heavy and slow. Light is almost painfull. I feel very dehydrated. Our heartrate and heartbeat os extremely low. My friend shows me the strangest thing: she grabs some skin on her hands and pulls it a bit. The skin stays up and very slowly comes down toits normal form. Yes, we are very hydrated. I can feel myself fading away.We need to drink. It is 50 meters to my bathroom. This distance seems impossible as we can barely get up. In an heroic attempt she crawls to the bathroom to get water while I fight not to pass out. I am pulled further and further into a tunnel, away from this live. The first time that I experienced real tunnel vision. Again sounds are twisted and far away. My friend wakes me up with much effort as I was still being pulled away. Drinking goes slow, but is good. i start to feel a little better. This gives a new problem: of to the bathroom. Walking is possible, but my motorical abilities are greatly impared. It feels like by batteries have run out. When I return, my friend has passed out. She was experiencing the same as I had before, only with her it took even more effort and time to awaken her and above all keep her awake. She keeps on passing out. One sec she's there and the next she's out. This freightened us both as it we both had strong feelings that it was possible that we wouldn't wake up from passing out, considering the level of dehydration, the greyness of the skin, the extreme cns depression and the heartrate. We timed the heartrate. I don't know the rate anymore, but it was very worrysome.At sometime in this experience we decided that ifour heartrate was going to keep decreasing we would call the hospital. I got some drinks and it took quite a while before it got a bit better. We started to force ourselves into remembering about what we know about the pharmacological effects of LSA. As LSA has a anticholinergic effect, I searched my supplement assortment for choline related compounds. Luckily, I found some brainboosters, which would do the trick. Swallowing the buggers was a major task. Normally I can swallow 4-10 tabs without water, no problem, but now my troat seemed to have shrunk. An hour later we noticed thigs got better rapidly. We could move way better and all the effects described before where decreased. We kept reading about LSA to find out if the effects we had really fit the description. We found out it did. Slowly the effect wore off during the day. The major effects lasted around 6-8 hours. The following 1,5 weeks I felt depressed and negative, body was stil slow. Edited by: Alfa

[Bodhisattva500]

Alfa where did you get the pills? did you make them? What is weird is how most people say they cant sleep after taking lsa but we both couldnt stay awake. Is this because we overdosed? One reason why Islept for so long is becauseI was really sick and felt horrible every time I moved slightly. I don't rembember being dehydrated but then again I was sleeping most of the time. The effects do last a very long time, I didn't feel normal for about 30 hours.