Experiences - Methcathinone Experiences

[Alfa]

Please post your Methcathinone experiences here. Please add dose, onset, peak, duration and after effectsif possible. What does it feel like. Any body sensations? How's your visual field? Which activities where nice to do and which where nice to abstain from? ThanX. Please be descriptive.

[hh339]

Jaw tension, lots of energy but not very funny. Some feelings of discomfort, but it was made from ephedra extract so thats probably why it wasn´t very spicy

[DJ-666]

In SWIMs opinion, it is a very nice drug, not as speedy as meth, very comfortable.


cause it is very easy to synthesize it is much cheaper as coke but with nearly same effects. With an starting dose of about 50mg it was like a line of coke but a little bit more speedy. After taking additionaly 50mg 2 hours later it was like a line of pep. Nice party drug!

[ethergnome]

Dose: 100-400mg
Onset: 10 minutes
Mode of transport: Oral
Effects: Full of energy lasting about 8 hours, within this time there was about 4 hours of euphoria which included tingling of limbs, lightness, speedyish. Music sounded quite nice. Jumpy thinking but not irritatingly so.
Side effects: Heart gets a little thumpy for a while. Mood swings tend to onset at higher doses, some clinching at higher doses. And does tend to impare erection slightly, however it does not deminish it all togeather and sex can be very fun while on it, provided you can keep it up.

Overall SWIM rather enjoy it. He'd say its more useful at lower doses, for staying awake and such. SWIMS varied doses between 100-400mg, it gets very intense at the latter end.

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Appreciate the report, but more details would be appreciated.

[fatmanstan]

Dose: from 50-75 mg bump insufflated (often higher, 1g+ over a night) to 100-200 mg smoked to 250+ mg oral. (mainly insufflated)
Onset: dependant on mode of entry, 1-2 min to 25 min

Effects: mostly energetic, some mild to moderate euphoria (occasionally, not alway), increased social feelings, ego-strengthening, enhanced concentration, increased self-confidence, moderate mood elevation, occasional mild paranoia.

Side effects: elevated heart rate and blood pressure, some increase in sweating (especially with higher dose), slight paranoia (occasional), slight nausea (higher-dose oral), lethargic hangover (after high dose), insomnia, mood swings.

Nice and easy stimulant, easy to focus, although not pushy (I'm-on-meth, I'm-going-to-sterilize-the-bathroom pushy), usually good mood lift and increased sociability. Not intensly euphoric. As noted, good to stay awake. Mixes well with alcohol (increased sociability).

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Appreciate this, but more details would be good.

[JewishNazi]

Wouldnt methcathinone give a strong tolerance to alcohol?

[fatmanstan]

Originally Posted by JewishNazi

Wouldnt methcathinone give a strong tolerance to alcohol?

Yes, very similar to eph or pse.

[neilg075]

The following is a drug psychosis written entirely and utterly and completely on methcathinone (by someone else). I'm curious to know if anyone has experienced similar phenomena. That's the reason for this post.

http://www.knowledgesuccess.com/wiki...eft_at_the_end

The psychosis evolved over many months of heavy CAT usage. See other linkes on http://www.knowledgesuccess.com for details. Sorry not to post the content here but it is really quite involved.

Cheers Neil

[enquirewithin]

^That's hard to read! All stimulants seem to produce a temporary psychosis after prolonged use/ abuse.

Erowid has an account of someone who manufatured metcathinone:

I still managed to screw up my life, however, and got kicked out of my house and started living in my car, synthesizing cat wherever I could find a microwave and a hairdryer to dry it. Eventually I became quite paranoid, and was checked into an institution by my still unsuspecting parents. They listened to me talk, and piss-tested me. Nope, no drugs (methcathinone was not tested for - they thought I was making speed or a lot of nothing?) and proceeded to diagnose me as 'Schizoaffective Bipolar'. They said the next day I'd be getting Haldol to sedate me, but that I should just go to sleep in a room.

[JaWill88]

anyone intravenously injected it? swim wonders what the rush would be like.

[dr ACE]

on a par with Methamphetamine probably but less intesity.henry has'nt tryed I.V ephedrone so cant comment from personal experience

[KL_Thomie]

Well if Swims synthesis did the trick than he's now high on qat.At first his impression can be wrong caus he had some amphs first but that is allready 12 hours ago(normally Swim would need allready more for the last 6 hours to avoid comedown)so the cats effects may be minimised.At first he smoked some freebase(bout 50mgs)and got a tintling feeling in his head and legs.His amph comedown feeling went over and a better mood kicked in(no euphoria but he's quite happy).1hour later snorted a further 100mg(couldn't leave it)Now he's a little bit confused sometimes too,no focus like on amph tough he's active(jumping around a little bit on some core music every now and then).No hunger either even after 18 hours since last meal.He has however noticed allready some negative effects.1.He's getting a little paranoid for some reason(watching door and window all the time,hasen't had this in a long time)and 2. a jaw-clench wich he can't supress (hasen't had that either in like a year).Anyway it's now 3 hours since he started and just took another smoke but it doesn't appear to get any heavier.

So conclude it:
-Nice drug when nothing else is around(pharmacie is just one block away for pseudo)
-High feels more like cocaine than amph
-Don't expect to much
-Will keep you awake and happy but that's about it...(so it's not that bad after all)

Swim'll try to do a Clemmensen Reduction on the rest of the batch to see if he can make M-amph from it.
This was Mr.Speedy for drugs-forum.com,back to the studio now!

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	Thanks for the report.
	Thank you Mr.Speedy, here's Tom with the weather.

[Picass035]

SWIM IV'ed this substance and SWIM can say that there is a noticeable "rush" which is stronger than d-amphetamine but weaker than d-methamphetamine. As far as SWIM's experience goes, there is a definite increase in heart-rate, energy etc., but unlike amp/m-amp, SWIM feels relaxed while on it. Best way this feeling can be described would be similar to (but not the same as) mixing speed + opiate.

SWIM's IV administration produced no noticeable side-effects and is obviously the strongest route of taking it.

Dosage consumed: ~100-200mg
Effects/Euphoria: ~4 hours
After-effects include afterglow (yes, there is some), very mild sleep/appetite suppression, and slight "amp" comedown.

[LightingSeeker]

What do you call it when combining?:
1. MDMA and Methcathinone? <i do this to have nice sex and a trance party>
2. Methcathinone (Cat, Khat, Qat,...) and LSD?
3. MDMA, LSD and Methcathinone?
I know Kittyflipping is Ketamine and MDMA;MDMA and LSD is candyflipping and Cocaine and MDMA is 'bumping up', but what is the above.

[Panthers007]

You need to go and read the rules you agreed to when you joined these forums. Especially the rules regarding self-incrimination - as you are in violation of this rule. As a newbie, you can't yet edit your posts, so a moderator has been notified to assist you. The rules are here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/ann....php?f=184&a=1

You are also in violation of the rule against cross-posting. You have posted this in 3 different forums here.

[LightingSeeker]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

You need to go and read the rules you agreed to when you joined these forums. Especially the rules regarding self-incrimination - as you are in violation of this rule. As a newbie, you can't yet edit your posts, so a moderator has been notified to assist you. The rules are here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/ann....php?f=184&a=1

You are also in violation of the rule against cross-posting. You have posted this in 3 different forums here.

what? masses?

LightingSeeker added 7 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by LightingSeeker

What do you call it when combining?:
1. MDMA and Methcathinone? <i do this to have nice sex and a trance party>
2. Methcathinone (Cat, Khat, Qat,...) and LSD?
3. MDMA, LSD and Methcathinone?
I know Kittyflipping is Ketamine and MDMA;MDMA and LSD is candyflipping and Cocaine and MDMA is 'bumping up', but what is the above.

Sorry i meant Dorby one of my friends ask this questions and told me about her experiences, she said she never seen street names for above.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

How does this stuff compare to amphetamines and methylphenidate? Swim hates methylphenidate. He gets no concentration ability or euphoria from it anymore whatsoever. Just anxiety. But amphetamines give him a really nice deep focused high.

[rail_roads]

SWIMs experience of Methcathinone is as follows:
Dose: 1-2grams/ party +- 3nights/week. SWIM likes to take it on a night out, but sometimes to help her work the next day too!
Onset: 2 -10 mins. SWIM usually found that by the time she left the bathroom where she took the Cat (always nasally) she was high.
Effects:
General: SWIM feels that for the first 20- 40mins she is speedy and energised with a sense of self satisfaction, sociability and an undertone of anxiety. By the 30 minute mark the socialising starts to become more rigid. SWIM feels the buzz, but knows that the high is losing its steam... anxiety starts to take over. And, by the 1h mark its time for some more.
Physical effects: Depending on the kind of Cat that SWIM was offered, the physical effects would differ. SWIM found that the only real noticible effects are that Cat can sometimes burn the nose and throat so badly that one is almost convinced that the drug was cut with a poison that would melt the scales right off an aligator. Then the nose runs... sometimes all night, sometimes just for 5 mins- always when SWIM was speaking to someone who was already suspicious about her frequent bathroom visits.
SWIM has noticed that if she has been on cat for 24-30hrs her vision seems to disintegrate. After jamming with some buds and after many a line of Cat has been put up her nose, SWIM notices that the blackdrop is burning her throat, and when she opens her mouth to speak, SWIM is able to pick it up on her own breath.. she has Cat Breath. It is the insipid smell that creeps from the back of her throat and pushes the stale chemical smell through her lips.

*A dose of 1-2grams in a short amount of time has on occasion taken SWIM into temporary psychosis. Sometimes this psychosis results in an overflow of creative output, and othertimes a simple repetitive activity.

Comedown: Depends on how much is consumed. It also depends on the mood that she was in while on the Cat. Comedowns are very unpredictable, but usually chilled. Hands tend to shake...a lot.

Overall opinion: SWIM prefers Coke, but Cat is alright. It does the trick of keeping you up. It seems to keep everyone content and ready to take on the night, but SWIM knows that Cat is not as harmless as it seems, and trying to fall asleep afterwards proves to be no easy task!

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Nice first post. Informative and non-incriminating!
	thanks for the TR
	great trip report

[ubeRAGEoUS]

SWIM's Experience...
Dose: from 30-40 mg insufflated (repeated 3x)
Onset: 2-10 mins.

First impressions

SWIM first notices the extreme burn sensation from insufflating the powder. The burn is harsh but very quickly subsides. The drip taste vaguely reminds SWIM of Adderall, bitter but a little note of sweetness.

Effects

Increased heart rate, raised bloodpressure, restlessness (hard to stay in place, SWIM wants to move around), mood-lift (not so much euphoria, maybe a few waves but not intense), irritability at times and eyes feel glued opened (much like cocaine does).

Duration

Somewhat short and disappointing. After dose, maybe 45 mins, there is a strong urge to use more quickly. SWIM wasn't satisfied with the lack of the euphoria and wanted more...best described as chasing a high that doesn't exist.

12 Hours Later (after last dose)

SWIM woke up with an unusual headache.

Conclusion

SWIM wasn't all that impressed but at the same time wasn't planning to be. It was ok but nothing spectacular. SWIM is also turned off by the fact that studies show prolonged use of MCAT (homemade with KMnO4), possibly years, has proven to be a precursor to Parkinson disease... Even though this may take much time and excessive amounts to develop the disease its just something not flattering to have in the back of one's mind. SWIM has more and will probably use more but defiantly wont invest in obtaining more.


SWIM wants every SWIYs to stay safe and stay informed. Peace and love to all.

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[Grammar]

Swims first and only experience (so far)

swim can not give acurate dose as he is unsure. He obtained i bag, asume it was 1 gram or a 0.7 taken in 1 bomb oraly and several lines snorted

subject male 22 years old, 9st, 5ft 8in

onset: 10 -30 mins
duraton 4 hurs

00.00 swims friend got several bags for the group, having never taken before swim asks his friend to show him what to do, swims friend built one bomb and one small line for swim witch swim took.

00.05 swim starts to feel the line it burns but only slightly he suddenly feels very up not like coke or Es r even speed diffrent in a strange way.

00.30 swim stats to feel the bomb, the feelin is doubbled if not trippled feels very euthoric, swim also notices he is able to talk to people very easly even more so than on E or coke witch was useful as he was meetin a few people for the first time that night.

01.00 swim decides o have another line to keep the buzz constant, this is repeated 30 mins later.


02.00 The party is going strong at this point swim is sat in the livingroom with several friends they are all snorting ketamine and methcathinone swim decides to go a little crazy and snort a big line 2 or 3 times bigger than the last 2

02.15 swim feels wasted, can only describe it as realy high almost as if his head was been pulled upwards or his brain was trying to escape his skull, he was talkin to everyone.

04.00 swim has nothing left and starts to feel less well he becomes quite and sits down to relax a little with a cigarette.

04.30 swim vomits in to toilet, friend keeps him company.

06.00 swim tries to sleep in an upstairs room, he fails but lies there relaxing for several hours untill it is time to go home.

altho sickness ocoured this was a very pleasurable experience (swim is ften sick on chems) and will be taking again if he gets a chance.

[bLuE]

the parkinsons study was done on methcathinone users who IV'd, the trace elements of heavy metals,ect cause them to get parkinsons. dont shoot this stuff. IV and IM are ALWAYS dangerous, and its almost always the contaminants that actually kill you.