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Old 11-10-2009, 11:19
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An overview of types of Kratom (Please review before posting new experience threads)

An Overview of Types of Kratom.

The following overview lists most of the known types of kratom herb/leaf, alkaloids, extracts, and isolates that exist or are available. Please use this thread to post any suggestions and/or comments regarding this overview, and to post any other types of kratom that should be added to the list which have been overlooked.

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Please review this list before starting a new experience thread in the kratom sub-forum. To prevent multiple threads for experience reports on the same types of kratom, which in turn, make them difficult to find and access... This list should be used for posting experience reports, and to help everyone to easily locate them. If a specific type of kratom has a dedicated Kratom Experiences thread, then it will show in blue hypertext. By clicking on any of these kratom types listed below, it will link you to its dedicated experience thread.

If a type of kratom already has a dedicated experience thread, but is missing from this list... then please post the link to that thread. Thanks.


Kratom Herb Leaf...

Boiluk Kratom
De-stemmed Thai Kratom
Genetically Grown MaEng Da Thai Kratom
Green Sumatra Wild Kratom
Green Veined Borneo Kratom
"Indian Kratom"
Maeng Da Malaysian Kratom
Maeng Da Thai Kratom
Maeng Da Thai “Pimp Grade Kratom” Leaf
Maeng Da Thai “Pimp Grade Kratom” Powder
Mitragyna Javanica
Mitragyna Parvifolia
Premium Commercial Bali Powder
Premium Commercial Bali Powder
Premium Indo Powder Kratom
Private Reserve Kratom Leaf
Red Vein Indo Kratom
Red Veined Malaysian kratom
Red Vein (Thai) kratom
Red Veined Borneo Kratom
Sandara Green Vein Indo Kratom
Sandara Red Vein Indo Kratom
Senja Indo Kratom
Sundanese Indo Kratom
Super Green Malaysian Kratom
Super "Reserve" Indo Kratom
Super Strength Kratom Powder
Thai Kratom Crushed Leaf
Thai Kratom Powder
Whole Leaf Korth Kratom
Yellow Malaysian Kratom


Kratom extracts

Bali Kratom Resin Extract
"Executive" Kratom Extract
Full Spectrum Kratom
Kratom 10:1 Tincture
kratom 10x resin
Kratom 30x Extract
Kratom 80x super concentrate liquid
Kratom Extract 250x extract
"Kratom Pure Alkaloids"
Kratom Standardized 10x Extract
Kratom Standardized 15x Extract
Lyophilized (Purified) Kratom Extract
New Guinea 20x kratom Extract


Kratom Alkaloids

7-Acetoxy mitragynine
7-hydroxy-mitragynine
Mitragynine
7% mitragynine Extract


Enhanced Blends

Kratom Gold
Kratom Black Label
Ultra Enhanced Indo Kratom.
Ultra Enhanced Thai kratom
Kratom Resin Freebase Snuff
Omega Enhanced Leaf kratom?


Extracts listed as percentages:

Standardized Extract 54% Alkaloids
Standardized Extract 7% Mitragynine
41% Full Spectrum Extract
7-OHM Blend


What products have I missed?

Last edited by Electrolingus; 27-04-2010 at 18:38. Reason: to update.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:46
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

Maeng Da Thai “Pimp Grade Kratom” Leaf is the same as the "Genetically Grown" listed above it--all Maeng Da is (contrary to the recent efforts of certain vendors to deny this and pass off other strains as types of "maeng da").
The "Red Vein Indo" is the same as "Super Green Indo" (counter-intuitive, I know...)
In addition to alkaloids and extracts, there are enhanced blends, i.e., leaf with extracts or alkaloids added to it. UEThai goes in the category of enhanced blends.
There is also the Super "Reserve" Indo, not to be confused with Super Green Indo--to my knowledge this has only one source. Then there is "Sundanese" Indo (named for the Sunda Islands).
Sumatran Indo
Red Borneo
Green Borneo
There are two types of Red Vein Thai, also a Green Vein Thai.
The "true" Red Vein Thai is scarcer and more expensive, and has a deep brick red/chocolate colour and an unmistakable pungent odor.
The kratom commonly sold as "Red Vein Thai" is much more common and not as strong.

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Old 11-10-2009, 21:00
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

Ok, here are some more that are not on the list so far

Kratom Herb
Boiluk Kratom
Super Golden Indo
Super Green Indo (SWIM was not aware that this has any link to Red Vein Thai - SWIM has tried both and feels they are different strains)
Premium Green Vein Indo
Premium Red Vein Indo
Premium White Vein Indo
Sandara Green Vein Indo
Sandara Red Vein Indo
Senja Indo
Green Sumatra Wild Kratom
Premium Wildcrafted Maylasian
Super Maeng Da Maylasian
Premium Yellow Maylasian
Premium Widcrafted Thai
Premium Green Vein Thai
Wildcrafted Red Vein Thai

I will research some Extracts before I post a list

Ohh yes to answer your question about UEThai, well its the Thai version of UEI basically. Enhanced with the more uplifting alkaloids rather than the more sedating that UEI is enhanced with. For what its worth you can get UEBali and UEMaylasian too (Though these are enhanced with UEI).

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Old 12-10-2009, 02:29
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

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Ok, here are some more that are not on the list so far

Kratom Herb
Boiluk Kratom
Super Golden Indo
Super Green Indo (SWIM was not aware that this has any link to Red Vein Thai - SWIM has tried both and feels they are different strains)
A link was not claimed between red vein Thai and Super Green Indo. It was pointed out that red vein Indo is the same as Super Green Indo.

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Premium Green Vein Indo
Premium Red Vein Indo
Premium White Vein Indo
Red Vein Indo is already on the list. The "Premium" is basically a meaningless word used by vendors to highlight the quality of their product, and does not indicate a different strain from those which lack the word "premium" in front of them. The same goes for the "Premium Green Vein Thai" you also mention--same as ordinary Green Vein Thai.
Green vein of any strain, BTW, is the same as white vein.

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Sandara Green Vein Indo
Sandara Red Vein Indo
Senja Indo
Green Sumatra Wild Kratom
Premium Wildcrafted Maylasian
Super Maeng Da Maylasian
Premium Yellow Maylasian
Premium Widcrafted Thai
Premium Green Vein Thai
Wildcrafted Red Vein Thai

I will research some Extracts before I post a list

Ohh yes to answer your question about UEThai, well its the Thai version of UEI basically. Enhanced with the more uplifting alkaloids rather than the more sedating that UEI is enhanced with. For what its worth you can get UEBali and UEMaylasian too (Though these are enhanced with UEI).
There are several UEThais on the market--three of which I am aware. the "original" is indeed the Thai version of UEI as you say. The others are enhanced blends and are said to be less potent than the "true" UEThai--but they are still marketed as UET.
There also exists a "wildcrafted Green Vein Thai." My cat, Pease, has tried the wildcrafted and she swears that it feels exactly the same as the farm-grown green vein Thai.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:27
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

Thanks for carification Nesthead, and yes you are correct on the red vein Indo/Golden Indo thang, my bad on that.
Im surprised that you say green is the same as white vein as it is offered by the same vend. But then that is the problem with building a list like this, a vendor can call the same thing by any funky namehe/she wishes.
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Old 12-10-2009, 22:08
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

True that, vendor names are one of the problematic aspects of kratom strain classification for sure!
I'm surprised that a green vein and white vein are offered by the same vendor; in the few ethnobotanical reports available on kratom it is always asserted that the term green vein/white vein is applied to the same leaf, and my cat Pease tells me that this is the accepted view among many knowledgeable American kratom users. No telling what vendors might call their leaf though; I recently saw a "pink vein" being offered, I think it was an Indo. And who knows, there might actually be a distinction between white/green vein of which most are unaware.
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Old 12-10-2009, 22:12
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

What alkaloids, extracts and enhanced blends exist?
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Old 13-10-2009, 00:15
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

The Superior Red Veined Borneo (which some vaguely label as "High Oxindole Kratom") claims to be unusually high in indole/oxindole/methoxyoxindole alkaloids, yet not high in the less desirable antagonistic alkaloids. Gus feels this is a true statement, but attempts to get any analytical data that supposedly exists on this or any other strain of Kratom (with numerous vendors), has been ineffective.

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Old 13-10-2009, 05:03
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

41% full spectrum extract comes in resin crystals or in a tincture, seems to contain the sedating/relaxing alkaloids... claims to have 17% mitragynine 7% 7OHM and the rest of the other alkaloids respectively in kratom...

also have seen a straight 7OHM pure blend, but this one has swim confused since swim has read that 7OHM has to be attached to other alkaloids otherwise it must be in a tincture, and swim sees this available in powder form... so is it true that it can not be a powder by itself, or is it possible?
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Old 13-10-2009, 07:41
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

From a trusted supplier, his description of a pure 7OHM blend is this :
55% Mitragynine
10% 7OHM
and the remainder are the other kratom alkaloids!
This is enhanced with much more 7OHM than naturally present in leaf.
100mg of 7OHM / Gram
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Old 14-10-2009, 02:14
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

well swim is an idiot, he read that before but recently has only read the name and just figure pure meant pure, plus the damn stuff is expensive. most expensive extract swim has seen, 7x-10x the price of UEI per gram.
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

Sundanese Kratom
swim recently saw on a vendors website and sounds interesting. swiy ever heard of such? swim was wanting to order some as the description is :

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This is limited and very special kratom. There might be stronger kratom but this Alkaloid mix is about perfect. A perfect mixture of up and down. If there was one and only one to live with this would be it. IS NOT ENHANCED, but you will think it is. This is about perfect Kratom if there is such a thing. New personal favorite. The Sundanese are an ethnic group native to the western part of the Indonesian island of Java. They number approximately 31 million. This Sundanese is in Indonesia. "

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Old 19-10-2009, 16:54
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

Could someone post an updated version of my list?
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Old 19-10-2009, 19:01
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

A lot of vendors sell "Full Spectrum Tincture" and on researching the various prices it does seem that this a common name for a very good quality tincture. Though is hard to say this tincture comes from the same source
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Old 19-10-2009, 19:21
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

I posted an example here: Boiluk Kratom

Please post experience threads for all different kratom types.
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

Any Kratom types or varieties that I did not start a thread for, are the ones I am unsure of (including all Premium, Super, UE, and Wildcrafted Kratom).

Is "Commercial" a term that is still used? With Bali Kratom, it's usually just; Bali Kratom Powder, Premium Bali Kratom, Super/Superior Bali Kratom, etc... Can anyone else comment on this.

Please post anything that has been left out, as well as any errors or changes that need to be made.

Thanks!

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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

I found these kratom types:

Super Green Indonesian Kratom
Golden Indonesian Kratom
Premium Indonesian Kratom
Premium Wildcrafted Malaysian Kratom
Super Malaysian Maeng Da Kratom
Premium Wildcafted Thai Kratom
Super Green Thai Kratom
Super Premium Red Vein Thai Kratom

Druidically Enhanced Indo Kratom
Druidically Enhanced Malaysian Kratom
Druidically Enhanced Thai Kratom
Enhanced Golden Indonesian Kratom
Enhanced Green Indonesian Kratom
Enhanced Green Malaysian Kratom
Enhanced Red Vein Thai Kratom
Indonesian Sunrise Blend
Indonesian Sunset Blend
Kratom 20X Indo Extract
Kratom 25X Indo Extract

I'm not sure if any of these are the same as something already listed. Does anyone know?
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

I'm unsure if terms like Premium, Super, Superior, etc, have anything to do with the actual strain or variety of the Kratom. That is to say that a certain vendors Premium could very well be the same as another vendors Super. As far as the term 'Enhanced', I believe that this denotes genetic enhancement or cross strains. However, since there is no specific regulation on Kratom, one could basically label a variety however they want.
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

[QUOTE=Alfa;692115]I found these kratom types:

Druidically Enhanced Indo Kratom
Druidically Enhanced Malaysian Kratom
Druidically Enhanced Thai Kratom
QUOTE]


Druidically?? im guessing this is a made up term from that supplier? It does sound potent-

"people were searching our site for UEI or Ultra Enhanced Indo, which is a product that we do not stock, so we put our resident druid to work on an alternative product, and this is what he came up with. We think that you'll have to agree that he managed to surpass himself here! This is a blend of two different kratom extracts with our super green Indonesian kratom"
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I'm unsure if terms like Premium, Super, Superior, etc, have anything to do with the actual strain or variety of the Kratom. That is to say that a certain vendors Premium could very well be the same as another vendors Super. As far as the term 'Enhanced', I believe that this denotes genetic enhancement or cross strains. However, since there is no specific regulation on Kratom, one could basically label a variety however they want.
I believe "enhanced kratom" is when they perform an alkaloid extraction of some sort and then add it to powdered leaf, thus "enhancing" it. At least this seems to be how it is explain when vendors provide detailed descriptions of the product.
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I believe "enhanced kratom" is when they perform an alkaloid extraction of some sort and then add it to powdered leaf, thus "enhancing" it. At least this seems to be how it is explain when vendors provide detailed descriptions of the product.
Yes. Thanks for the clarification, and my apologies for such a blunder. Still trying to figure out where my head was on that one.
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

what exactly are these varieties named for? some i can understand, ie some being red or green veined. but for some reason i am getting this feeling in my gut that people are either just planting seeds and calling them a new variety or by location without any real morhpological or chemical difference looked at.

scuse my ignorance

are there any keys or discriptions for tehse varieties? or moreso just market gimmicks?
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

usually for the main part Kratom is sorted into the areas/countries it is grown. Different strains have arisen over the years (red/green vein) and because of the area in which it has grow it has different characteristics.
As you say it is easy for someone to plant a seed and call it anything they want. Unlike weed where people have been genetically engineering the plants for many years Kratom is reletively new to the west and so hasnt really been genetically cultivated by the locals (though it is grown as a crop).
We have the 3 well known verieties Bali/Maylasian and Thai but Indo is now as popular we have a few new ones like Borneo, Sudanese and Sandara, anything past that well, your guess is as good as mine.
It would be interesting to get detailed differences between these new verieties and the original 3 or 4
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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

kind of figured as much.

i dont really understand though...when did a locality ever become grounds to decalre ti a variety...variety geenrally means some kind of morphological variation....which is why teh red and green leaf makes sense....indo/malay/thai/phillippenes etc etc dont realyl seem sufficient info to declare tehm somethign out of teh ordinary....potency does not offer enough either, and many cases it is not even tested only peopel claim its stronger which has so many variables it is impossible to even consider it evidence.

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Re: An overview of types of Kratom

One that has been missed is:

UEMT - Ultra Enhanced Mai Thai Kratom

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This unique product is based on only the best strains of Indo, Malay and Thai kratom which is then ultra enhanced to create this potent ultra enhanced blend. Clean and stimulating for most, the Ultra Enhanced Mai Thai is a great option for those who like the strength of the UEI and want to try something a bit different


SWIM's source is trusted. He may try some.It is in the UEI price range. If he tries it he will report.

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