Need some support/ help . Please!!!!!

[Motorheadey]

Hey, guys.
Swim is a highschool student and is addicted to amphetamine ( or meth , i don't now what he gets in the street)
Swim fell in love with the substance , because of the confidence it gave him , that whas the main reason when he wondered why?
Swim has been using for about 4 - 5 months now , whit 2 - 3 day breaks , sometimes few days straight.
Swim noticed , that all the pleasure factors of speed are gone by now , he only uses it to ease the depression that folows after usage and sometimes he thinks he can't do anything without it ( school , chatter , confidence)
In fact , he noticed that speed makes him paranoid as hell sometimes , and this weird thing started to happen quite often ... when he talks to someone he just gets lost in the middle of a sentence , he's like what the hell am i talking about? and he gets like paranoid or something , maybe it's the street stuff , he thought at first , but he noticed that happening to one of his friends too.
Speed is tearing swims life uppart , his mother knows everything , she is always trying to help , but swim has developed some illness or something(he becomes agressive as hell , starts yelling and says things he could never say before) - what is that??
People around him are starting to notice swims habit , quite often people are stating that swim looks and acts strange ( can that relate to other addicts?) he also noticed that , things that are quite stupid realy mattered to him like , what do people think about him after something happened , his hair , walk , ass and everything else , but now swim doesen't give a fuck anymore...
Swim is the only speed user from his social circle , so he is alone in this.
Swim realizes that he needs help asap , he admits that he is addicted.
Swim has been feeling guilty , because of his habit for about a month , and even now , when he realized he is a speedfreak , he still has a half g packed for tommorow... sad...
Swim is wondering , even when he quits for good , can he still live a normal life?Can he reach his full potential in life? Or life for him is changed forever?
Swim wants to stop ! He will , he's sure of that , but he doesen't know where to start? How to begin cleansing? By the way swim agreed with his mother , to visit an addiction specialist , a friend of her's.
I hope this thread will become a place for swim , where he could receive advices , encouragement , understanding..... support.
So if anyone want's to know something in greater detail , just ask , and please help!!!!!!!!

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First step, well done. Honest too.

[510toMexico]

my pet dog Yoshi went through something similar .all the things that you mentioned about confidence and thinking he couldn´t do anything with out it .yoshi used for 5 -6yrs after he quit it took him a long time to get his sex drive back or even enjoy lifes simple pleasures .eventually after about 6 months maybe longer he started getting his confidence back and things started feeling normal again .my dog yoshi has been speed free for a bout 9 years now and some times .misses feeling indestructible like he did when he first started using but remembers how miserable it made him feel and all the things he missed out on because of meth he even did time because of it .your friend hasn´t been using that long and has plenty of time to nip it in the bud before he hits rock bottom or does permanent damage to himself . swim should just try and go cold turkey sleep it off for a couple of days eat some cereal and other sweets and be aware that he will feel a lot of anxiety at first but this will pass

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Thankyou for sharing and helping

[missparkles]

First, take a deep breath, SWIY has done the really hard bit, asked for help.
Now if SWIYs mum knows about this that's excellent, as she really wants to help.
First thing to do is see someone and get his health checked, it could be that he's been affected mentally by the amount of amphetamine he's been taking. It's called psychosis.
If, and I doubt he has done permanent damage, he will know one way or the other.
That's one less thing to worry about...right?
Not sure what services are available in Latvia, but I know a bloke who does, so I'll get back to you on that.
Then perhaps his family and friends, who possibly already know, as he said it quite obvious there's something wrong, could help?
You need to try to formulate some plan to quit, put safety measures in place (this is where family really help) people to talk to if you get any cravings.
But you have to be completely honest with them, sometimes, just a 5 minute chat, can be long enough for a craving to pass.
Do you have any recovery programmes like NA where you are, if so contact them.
They may not be perfect, but they're extremely good in an emergency, and they are so understanding.
Basically, make the decision to stop, build up support for yourself, plan how you're gonna cope, and use the search engine here at DF.
See what helped others, what they did, what didn't help.
Use it, it's excellent advice.
Feel free to pm me anytime.
Don't forget love, others have been right where you are now, and today they're drug free, so you can get through this.
Well done though, for taking that first, difficult step.
Sparkles.

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Thankyou for the helpful and supportive post.

[dspacemonkey]

Without condoning or promoting SWIM does see it as all individual. Whilst some can go 5, 10, 20 years without any major disruption to life, hold a job, have a family, sunday barbeques others go down the slippery slide in mere weeks.

Unfortunately it all comes down to inner strength and desire for normality. If you dont possess that strength or have that desire your possibly f*#ked already but it seems the OP has a well meaning post which could signify inner heart.

Dont worry about what other people say about you and dont tke yourself to seriously. It may not be time for the shrink quite yet. You are your own best shrink.

If you really want to quit get a big bag of meth and flush it down the toilet......if you cant your either addicted or not ready yet, if you can your better than SWIM.

[missparkles]

Found this site for NA, it has some excellent links, have a look, see if there's anything that will help.

http://www.na.org/index.php?ID=home-content-fm

Sparkles.

[Motorheadey]

Swim just came back from school.
Swim had a chat with his mother about his problem last night before sleep , it was very emotional , and before falling asleep he felt terrible , he uses speed and for a split second he thought "I don't even want that cursed amph(he was saving for today)"
But when he woke up , he did it anyway... 0.5g that he did today was pathetic... he didin't feel a thing , he sat in school pretty fuckin' mad , later he drank 3 bottles of energy drink , it didin't help much , so now he's depressed and he's going to eat some food.Swim is breaking his head now thinking of a way to get money for 1g of amph , he's pretty sure he's going to get it one way or a nother , he is not proud about that.
Swims mother arranged a meeting with the addiction specialist tommorow.
Swim is lost....
Oh... and by the way Swim was wondering :
Does amph it selfe destroy a persons self confidence? Or after you quit it , you may feel more confident than you were before? Because in those periods of time he was sober in between usages he kind of felt more confident , than before....
Swim also noticed , that girls don't matter to him as much... and afterall , difficulties comunicating with females were one of the reasons he started ussing... ( could someone comment on that?)
also... What mental difficulties are common after quiting speedey?

[510toMexico]

the girls not mattering right now is normal I think swim is just thinking about getting high .swim should drink coffee and try working out building a nice strong body should help you with your confidence and girls .it worked for my dog Yoshi .most important if you stumble and use again don´t let it break you my dog yoshi stumnled many times before he was finally able to get the monkey of his back

[guntroll]

If Swiy can get caffeine pills go with that. Addiction to No Doz is more then possible, but coffee, except for being quickly onset, has little effect on one with tolerance. This one is assuming that speed will cause a cross tolerance for other stimilants. A gram of caffeine a day should make a difference in withdrawlas and cravings. I'm hoping someone with more experience then SWIM can say whether or not that this is a good idea or bad. I know it's one of the two.

[Motorheadey]

Swim has been sober of sulfate all day.Yesterday he failed at getting some aph and in the afternoon he felt like sober , smoked so pot , and he started to think that tomorrow ( today) without speed would be fine , he started imagening himself with high confidence , charizma , like in the old days.And today he was thinking a lot about speed , but didin't feel the withdrawalls , he's mood was quite good.The pshychologie behind that could be the fact that he decided , that tomorrow whitout amph whould be quite good and usefull for his tolerance , the idea that he's gonna get load like friday or something... calmed him down(look how smart i am ).
Today he had a meeting with a psychoterapist.She looked like some old hag , strait outta' rehab .During the chat with her , he thought she was rude , and when driwing back home he thought "Wow she's pretty cool and knows her stuff)
She told me intresting things ,like , that there is this russian guy a friend of her's , who works in rehab in St.Petersburg and he studied only teens who were smoking weed on a daily basis , destroy theyre "Intelectual abbilities" , she comparred some 5 of the abillities of the pot head teens and heroin addicts , and it turns out , that potteens tend to loose those abbilieties way more rappidly.... just something to think about .
In the end she sayed , that my drug use is pretty messed up and it's up to me to decide "If i want to die - i snort , thats my decision"
She also sayd that she often doesen't understand her patients , "They are always saying thing like , life is booring. I can't even imagine what that should be like."
She prescribed Swim some anti -D's "Tritico Retard" , and sayed , that if i'm on those and i dring even a small amount of alcohol , i'll be trippin' balls in a nuthouse.Can anyone say something about those babies?
When Swim got back , he did so things he had planned and made some money , he smoked some pot today and has 0,5g of amphetamine sulfate for tommorow , even tho he feels fine today... he doesen't know why he bought that shit again...
Swim was told to hold on sober for a week , and return to the therapist , for a "Clearing of whithdrawals session"
Swim feels hes gonna be speed free for the next week , it may be that that's the lost , scared , stupid teenage tweeker in my brain , talking sh*t to me and i believe him...
Comments?

[salviablue]

Originally Posted by Motorheadey

She prescribed Swim some anti -D's "Tritico Retard" , and sayed , that if i'm on those and i dring even a small amount of alcohol , i'll be trippin' balls in a nuthouse.Can anyone say something about those babies?

According to a few places, Trazodone increases the effects of CNS depressants (i.e. alcohol). So smaller doses of alcohol will give the effects of higher doses. This can be dangerous with larger doses of alcohol due to the CNS depression (i.e. you may stop breathing naturally etc.)

Do not drink grapefruit juice whilst on trazodone, do not abruptly discontinue the trazodone, do not dose at night time.
Do take with/after food and do report and seek immediate medical help if you hold priapism from longer than 4 hours (constant boner, pocket rocket, pink oboe, ...erection).


Please continue to post here and keep us updated with your progress. If you feel the need at all to talk to/at someone, use the help offered, we are here to try and help.

Sorry I can't be much help,

Take care

[DecoyPencil]

My hamster has meant to jump in on this thread and offer some words of support all day. Congratulations on making it through a day without amphetamine! It’s tougher than most people realize. There is a certain "desperation" that seems to go along with amphetamine withdrawal, so my hamster is glad to hear that SWIY is in (relatively) good spirits.
I wish my hamster could offer more than just "hang in there", but really that’s what it comes down to. He has been to the nasty world of amphetamine dependence and found it hard to leave. SWIY mentioned in another post that he sort of felt more confident during sober periods. My hamster agrees with that. It may feel at first that there are mental difficulties during the early period of amphetamine sobriety. But the mental clarity that comes afterwards is very rewarding. SWIY mentioned that he feels that he will be speed free for the next week. Make that SWIY's goal. 1 week. It sort of "tricks" oneself into thinking that one is dealing with a relatively short time period, and thus a more attainable goal. So do what’s necessary to resist the 0.5 of amphetamine sulfate. Tell SWIYself that its NOT for tomorrow. Remember. The feelings of being lost, scared, etc. are not uncommon with this sort of thing. But the amphetamine does not determine who SWIY is. Do what SWIY can to make that meeting next week a speed-free one.
Sorry for the rambling post, my hamster is on his way out of work . Remember that SWIY is never alone, there are many SWIMmers here who are familiar with the difficulties of kicking amphetamine. So feel free to post away here to update on SWIY's condition or to ask for support. Both can be very helpful if SWIY finds himself reaching for the amph. Good luck!
DecoyPencil

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nice and helpful post

[bLuE]

swim never had any experience with amphetamine sulphate addiction, but he has once gotten himself into a nasty poly-stimulant abuse pattern. esspecially MDMA, some nasty MDEA mixed with heroin (yes im quite sure a very odd and unsatisfying combo that leaves you wanting 100 more), cocaine, MethAmph laced pils, amphetamine laced pillls, ritalin, concerta, ect. if you want to know how to stop, i will tell you EXACTLY how i did...
if you have some family that live a ways away where you cant find your drug of choice this is a good place to seek refuge, just until you stop craving. personally i NEEDED pot to keep me going, and at first i would use ephedrine cold pills to give me some energy but i wouldnt recomend it if you can avoid it... take a run everyday, draw something everyday, write something EVERYDAY. learn how to do something new, doesnt matter what just occupy your time by learning something that your interested in, i play guitar for example.

When you feel like giving up think about the damage it will do, think about your body shriveling up, think about your families dissapointment. THEN you think about your other option, to hold out, become mentally and physically strong, learn new skills, make your family proud, and get your confidence back. its worth it man, and once youve tamed the beast of addiction you will feel much stronger and confident in yourself than you ever THOUGHT you were on amphetamine!

you can make it, leave that shit alone as much as you can, the longer you stay clean and exercise the better you will feel about saying goodbye to that nasty addiction.