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Old 05-10-2009, 18:58
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What is the ambien high like?

SWIM has heard that you can trip from taking ambien and staying awake. What exactly is the high like?

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Re: What is the abilify high like?

Sorry, SWIM was thinking of a different pill. He meant to say Ambien.
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Old 05-10-2009, 19:20
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

Ahh yes, Ambien (zolpidem) is indeed quite an odd drug. I suggest you use the search engine to learn more as it has been discussed ad nauseum.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

Ambien is one of the new Z drugs.
It has a low abuse potential but it's still considered a drug with abuse potential.
If you've never used any sedatives before it will possibly have the same effect as a low dose of diazepam, say 2mg.
It does usually leave a metallic taste in the mouth (most get it).
It's not a good choice for rec use, when tolerance builds the next step up are benzo's. Just be aware of that.
Be safe.
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:33
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

Swim has been taking ambien for about 2 years now, in doses of 20mg+ rectally, IV (Extracted) , insufflation, sublingually and orally once or twice...
Saying this drug has little recreational value is a huge understatement. Although people seem to either hate it or love it.
But with little to no tolerance to benzo's/ barbs the initial effects are very weird. The buzz comes on with a drunken rush akin to dxm or ketimine, the hallucinations are usaully major distortions like watching swiys clothing on the floor morph and move, or text on swiys monitor moving. Alongside the hallucinations you will feel axienty free, motion feels distorted, and overall super relaxed... damn swim loves ambien and would take it over any benzo on the us market for sleep/recreation/ or to relieve axienty.
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:39
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

lol, wobbly and goofy, don't know anything about hallucinations, to me it was like being drunk but more fun, more wobbly and goofy/delirious less thumping pounding spinning drunkenness.

doesn't last very long, you'll pass out in 2 hours flat.

it's good insufflated or eaten. it hits in under a minute insufflated with brand name. 10-15mg g2g. i think it's underrated too, it's a lot of fun, but you'll do weird shit in your sleep sometimes.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

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If you've never used any sedatives before it will possibly have the same effect as a low dose of diazepam, say 2mg.
It does usually leave a metallic taste in the mouth (most get it).
It's not a good choice for rec use, when tolerance builds the next step up are benzo's. Just be aware of that.
I've heard people refer to the metallic taste side effect as the prominent side effect of zolpidem a few times recently, but any sort of odd taste side effect isn't reported in the research I'm familiar with; it's reported as the most prominent effect of (es)zopiclone/Lunesta (with a frequency of 3.64%). So I'm wondering if people are actually experiencing this effect with zolpidem or are they mixing it up with zopiclone?

It's difficult to compare zolpidem to diazepam unless you're looking at a very certain effect. Diazepam has been used to treat zolpidem withdrawal (reportedly, withdrawal from zolpidem seems to be a very confusing topic), though I'm not certain off the top of my head how the dosages were assessed; is the 2mg measurement a guesstimate of SWIYs?

As for tolerance and sort of escalating to benzodiazepines, I think it depends highly on the person. It is thought that in cases of zolpidem dose-escalation, zolpidem looses its selective affinity at higher doses (>40mg), which means it acts much more like a benzodiazepine at higher dosages so it could certainly be the case that zolpidem misuse can lead to benzo misuse. However, these cases are extremely rare, are not similar to cases of benzo abuse (e.g, no significant history of alcohol abuse) and all of the patients describe exaltation, rather than sedation, in addition to anxiolytic effects (presumably from the same mechanism of action which causes anxiolytic effects from a benzo). So there's probably a lot more to this puzzle.

Beyond that, zolpidem has been reported to have inconsistent effects in some people--one night it may work very well, while the next night it doesn't seem to work at all. One study suggests that hallucinations from zolpidem--an effect that recreational users enjoy--are caused by rapid withdrawal and restarting of zolpidem. The inherent problem is that it's easy to assume tolerance has risen when it in fact has not (appreciably); whether seeking a 'high' or just a good night's sleep, increasing the dosage will not necessarily bring back the effects, but doing so certainly doesn't help one's tolerance. Therefore, increasing dosage of zolpidem isn't entirely like increasing dosage of other recreational drugs; the theraputic pharmacological effects are no longer linearly related to dosage above 20mg. I encourage swimmers to take caution when considering dose-incrementation to achieve expected effects.

What are the effects like? Here are excerpts from a couple case reports:
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...after taking zolpidem 20mg, the patient had gotten out of bed and begun talking nonsensically, saying she was seeing "marines" outside the window, as well as her son. After about 30 minutes the patient's husband was able to persuade her to return to bed. In a similar episode, after having taken 20mg zolpidem at bedtime, the patient had arisen from bed, begun having hallucinations of people outside the window, and begun talking nonsensically. However, she had been able to respond to her husband's questions during this episode.
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A 50-year-old Asian woman was sent to the emergency department due to bizarre visual experiences. Recently, she had frequent headaches and thought she had caught a cold, so she took some nonprescription herbal medicine (Ryukaku-San) for cough. At 2300, she took 1 tablet of acetaminophen 500 mg to obtain relief from the headache and 1 tablet of zolpidem 10 mg for insomnia, and then went to bed. Twenty minutes after retiring, she thought that she saw the ceiling moving, the room's white lights had turned blue, and the shapes of objects in the room were twisted. In her living room, she noticed that small objects appeared to be enlarged like hills, and outside neighborhood houses were observed to be crooked. On the way to the hospital, she believed that the body of the taxi driver was burning and the physicians in the emergency department were as skinny as monkeys. She also perceived that things were falling from the ceiling when she was reclining on the bed in the emergency department. The patient was frightened by these visual experiences and had some acting-out behavior, such as trying to catch the falling objects in the air.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

In Swims experience this drug was one that never even worked for its actual purpose.Swim cant even get any shut eye on it.Probably all the Benzos Swim has used in the past.As far as any high from its usage Swim would have to take a MAssive dosage to probably feel any effects from it.Swim would tell Swiy to not even attempt to try to get high from this pill as there are many other substances that will give Swiy a definite high with better results and much more info availability on these drugs effects and their usages.Swim would also like to add that sleeping pills and Benzos can be dangerous so please be careful and use caution when experimenting with these substances.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

Staples is correct, my apologies, it is Zopiclone that is credited with the metallic after taste.
Sparkles has used this drug many times, and perhaps because she's taking (and has taken) no other mind altering drugs for a long while, she finds the effects similar to very low dose diazepam.
They do make her sleep, however, due to her tolerance to benzo's, they only work for a short while.
Again apologies for any misinformation given.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

SWIM has done Xanax a good amount, but has grown to hate it so it looks like he won't be trying it.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

Swim might look at Klonipin as an option...In Swims world it is lighter than Xanz but does the trick.
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Re: What is the ambien high like?

Zolpidem, and it's recreational use, are well covered here. A simple UTFSE yields a world of information
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