Paddy's horrific Ivory Wave binge

[paddycue1977]

This is my Marmoset (naughty little monkey, ARE Marmosets monkeys?) posting on my behalf:

"Hi my first post today, I Woke this morning after a 14 hour shift yesterday decided i needed a little treat went to my local head shop to get a g of charge+ just got into it lately find it as good as coke really and i have done some decent coke over the years they were sold out the guy said the town is gone crazy for charge+ i tried another 2 head shops(i live in a fairly large city) same reply all sold out will have it in 2morrow, i Said to my self i would try one more smaller place i had not been before said they dont stock it but he said he had this stuff called raz i heard bad things bout that so i said no then he said that he has this really strong stuff called IVORY WAVE he was a foreign lad but he said as best as he could that it would keep me awake all nite he offered to sell me a 0.2 bag which he said ws more than enough but i thought would not last me 20 mins(how wrong i was) i said i would buy the 1 g bag its not cheap bout the same as charge + got home not expecting much did a charge sized line that was at 12am its 630 pm now and im fucked really speddy high cant stop talking and i have only done 1 line think the bag will last a few days well worth the price i think the comedown is going to be a bit bad but have a few benzo(rophynol they should do the trick) but folks be really carefully with the dose i did not do enough research on this product if your used to doing charge + divide the dose by at least 5 sorry for rambling but i am in bits this is hands down the most potent substance if have tried coke crack speed blah blah def worth a purchase i believe it is a new version from what i have briefely researched the baggie comes in a foil rapper and the powder is brown there was a previous version which was a white power which come nowhere near this stuff ps i usually like a drink on a day off i oped a bottle of wine when i did the line and i have one sip gone from it (i can usually get through 2 or 3 bottles) no desire to drink am just too wired. PEOPLE BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THE DOSE 50MG PLENTY. sORRY BOUT THE LENGTH OF THE POST AND THE GRAMMER AND PUNCT BUT YEE PROB KNOW THE STORY ITS GOING TO BE A LONG NITE BE CAREFUL FOLKS WILL LET YEE KNOW HOW I GET ON BUT THIS IVORY WAVE WAS A GOOD FIND I PROB SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE .2 BAG Rant over bye

paddycue1977 added 23 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

ps i have read a few other post saying bad things bout this product i am not avodacating it in any way but if you are trying it just be very careful with the dose i usually get through i g charge + in bout 2-3 hours i am still on my first line of Ivory wave (way too big a line i know now) and its been 7 hours since i do not have a desire at the moment to redose i think any more and 10 roofies wont put me to sleep cant imagine any bath salts stronger than this stuff i usually research every chemical i do (there being a lot coke crack heroin fent oxy speed tons of pills through the years did my first pill in 1999 when 1 would blow the head off you and cost a fortune at the time i have done 25+ pills in one nite and often went through 4-5 grammes of fairly decent coke at a time so i no novice.Dont wat to repeat myself GO EASY ON THIS STUFF i am no expert on the chemistry behind it just got it by chance did a lot of research on charge+ and feel it is a lot safer than this stuff i would hate to see some 15 year old bang 1 g of this in one go to impress his mates , i said 50mg in my previous post i just got out my scales 15-25mg is plenty i believe u can always redose but i have to desire to do so yet ps i have not eaten yet today and have noooooooo desire to do (prob a big mistake) so eat a healthy breakfast b4 u touch this stuff . i Cant believe im still this wired"

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[akack2]

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

Hi my first post today, I Woke this morning after a 14 hour shift yesterday decided i needed a little treat went to my local head shop to get a g of charge+ just got into it lately find it as good as coke really and i have done some decent coke over the years they were sold out the guy said the town is gone crazy for charge+ i tried another 2 head shops(i live in a fairly large city) same reply all sold out will have it in 2morrow, i Said to my self i would try one more smaller place i had not been before said they dont stock it but he said he had this stuff called raz i heard bad things bout that so i said no then he said that he has this really strong stuff called IVORY WAVE he was a foreign lad but he said as best as he could that it would keep me awake all nite he offered to sell me a 0.2 bag which he said ws more than enough but i thought would not last me 20 mins(how wrong i was) i said i would buy the 1 g bag its not cheap bout the same as charge + got home not expecting much did a charge sized line that was at 12am its 630 pm now and im fucked really speddy high cant stop talking and i have only done 1 line think the bag will last a few days well worth the price i think the comedown is going to be a bit bad but have a few benzo(rophynol they should do the trick) but folks be really carefully with the dose i did not do enough research on this product if your used to doing charge + divide the dose by at least 5 sorry for rambling but i am in bits this is hands down the most potent substance if have tried coke crack speed blah blah def worth a purchase i believe it is a new version from what i have briefely researched the baggie comes in a foil rapper and the powder is brown there was a previous version which was a white power which come nowhere near this stuff ps i usually like a drink on a day off i oped a bottle of wine when i did the line and i have one sip gone from it (i can usually get through 2 or 3 bottles) no desire to drink am just too wired. PEOPLE BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THE DOSE 50MG PLENTY. sORRY BOUT THE LENGTH OF THE POST AND THE GRAMMER AND PUNCT BUT YEE PROB KNOW THE STORY ITS GOING TO BE A LONG NITE BE CAREFUL FOLKS WILL LET YEE KNOW HOW I GET ON BUT THIS IVORY WAVE WAS A GOOD FIND I PROB SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE .2 BAG Rant over bye

paddycue1977 added 23 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

ps i have read a few other post saying bad things bout this product i am not avodacating it in any way but if you are trying it just be very careful with the dose i usually get through i g charge + in bout 2-3 hours i am still on my first line of Ivory wave (way too big a line i know now) and its been 7 hours since i do not have a desire at the moment to redose i think any more and 10 roofies wont put me to sleep cant imagine any bath salts stronger than this stuff i usually research every chemical i do (there being a lot coke crack heroin fent oxy speed tons of pills through the years did my first pill in 1999 when 1 would blow the head off you and cost a fortune at the time i have done 25+ pills in one nite and often went through 4-5 grammes of fairly decent coke at a time so i no novice.Dont wat to repeat myself GO EASY ON THIS STUFF i am no expert on the chemistry behind it just got it by chance did a lot of research on charge+ and feel it is a lot safer than this stuff i would hate to see some 15 year old bang 1 g of this in one go to impress his mates , i said 50mg in my previous post i just got out my scales 15-25mg is plenty i believe u can always redose but i have to desire to do so yet ps i have not eaten yet today and have noooooooo desire to do (prob a big mistake) so eat a healthy breakfast b4 u touch this stuff . i Cant believe im still this wired

Mate I know how you feel,whatever you do dont redose,swim redosed twice after the first HUGE line and was in dire straits for a week,lucky to be here.Take it easy and keep yourself occupied,it will end eventually.

[paddycue1977]

thanks for replying mate dont feel too bad only did the one big line thank god , a week thats bad how much u do?

paddycue1977 added 7 Minutes and 20 Seconds later...

well to be honest the guy selling me the stuff did tell me it was very strong i just dident take heed thought would be similar to the charge + which everyone is now doing, its a must to research these chems b4 you go dabbling with them i kinda knew after the first line and did a bit of research so glad i dident do the dog on it can imagine serious probs

[akack2]

Swim did over half a gm in 3 lines,paranoia was immense,overpowering,had to fly to a country that was in heat of 45 degrees in the morning,had the third line in airport toilet so i could get enough confidence to walk on the plane.

spent the whole week trying not to do meself in,was lucky to have a decent mate along.

[paddycue1977]

thats bad to think half a gram can do that, is this stuff new on the irish market havent seen it till today? could easily see people on a nite out thinking this stuff is like charge+ which i have personally seen people do 3 gs i can imagine 1 g of this stuff and you up for 3 days benzos or no benzos

[akack2]

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

thats bad to think half a gram can do that, is this stuff new on the irish market havent seen it till today? could easily see people on a nite out thinking this stuff is like charge+ which i have personally seen people do 3 gs i can imagine 1 g of this stuff and you up for 3 days benzos or no benzos

It out since about 2 months ago,was originally stronger when swim took it (before it was in plain see through baggy).

swim is fond of doing 3gm charge in a night and meph currently sometimes 5 to 6gm in a day,very high tolerance,staying a wake for 3 days sometimes doing over 10gms.

but swim couldnt handle 600mgs of that ivory white,that nearly finished swim for ever.

swims shop doesnt sell it, but most others do but some have told me they are afriad and willnot restock it after current supply is finished,other shops say they will continue as they are making a packet off it

akack2 added 4 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

sorry i did not read you msg fully still fucked you tried to do urself in???wow sorry to hear that Was it the parnonia or sickness or was there other chem ivolved ssris etc

couldnt stop thinking about doing meself in mate,no other chems,the paranoia and the complete innability to operate properly was killing swim.was on a business trip and made a balls of the whole thing,the mate tied swim to a bed for a full day at one stage (sounds funny now but it wasnt)

swim suffers a bit of depression in the winter and so on but nothing thAT CAnt be handled,this ivory wave just wasnt easy to handle

[paddycue1977]

its being nearly 8 hours since 1 line still strong effects i reckon i did a bigger line than i thought will try have a few glasses of wine but i really dont feel like alcohol but i might try 1 tiny redose 20mg and leave alone ,1000mg is really too much to give in one packet can be misleading(but i suspose i come from a coke and speed backround where you finish the bag no matter what size).2 is plenty for one person for 2 days i would imagine ps finding it hard to piss i am the same with some es though dont think it would be great for the sex life either but neither is coke even good quality coke in large doses

[akack2]

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

its being nearly 8 hours since 1 line still strong effects i reckon i did a bigger line than i thought will try have a few glasses of wine but i really dont feel like alcohol but i might try 1 tiny redose 20mg and leave alone ,1000mg is really too much to give in one packet can be misleading(but i suspose i come from a coke and speed backround where you finish the bag no matter what size).2 is plenty for one person for 2 days i would imagine ps finding it hard to piss i am the same with some es though dont think it would be great for the sex life either but neither is coke even good quality coke in large doses

sex doesnt happen mate full stop

alcohol doesnt really dull its effects either but you can get drunk,you will just be drunk and para and jittery at the same time lol,seriously though

gotta go see me wee fella mate,take it easy and let us know how you get on,i can tell youre safe enough anyway you seem to have your head screwed on,take it easy,chat later!

[paddycue1977]

just read your profile dident relise your in the business fair play yeah charge and meph are totally different dont get me wrong i like the buzz i said earlier to the gf that i thought it was better than charge i got the sealed bag in the foil as well but def tell people buying this stuff to dose prob there was a foreign lad selling to me today i dont think he had tried the stuff himself just said it was very strong me being me (stupid) with all sorts of things painkillers,booze, coke over the yeas thought yeah right but this stuff is the real deal the crystal meth of rcs but very enjoyable and with the price of charge itsa bargain . Charge seems to be all the rage at the moment i know reall coke heads who say its better than coke or maby the coke around here anyway im rambling again i think charge and booze go well coke and booze are a nightmare what do u think

[akack2]

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

just read your profile dident relise your in the business fair play yeah charge and meph are totally different dont get me wrong i like the buzz i said earlier to the gf that i thought it was better than charge i got the sealed bag in the foil as well but def tell people buying this stuff to dose prob there was a foreign lad selling to me today i dont think he had tried the stuff himself just said it was very strong me being me (stupid) with all sorts of things painkillers,booze, coke over the yeas thought yeah right but this stuff is the real deal the crystal meth of rcs but very enjoyable and with the price of charge itsa bargain . Charge seems to be all the rage at the moment i know reall coke heads who say its better than coke or maby the coke around here anyway im rambling again i think charge and booze go well coke and booze are a nightmare what do u think

the charge is better than any coke swims ever had in this country deffo man,i never really got into the coke here,but the charge swimd do non stop,its a very good product,mephedrone is fantastic as well,charge and the drink go well for sure as well,meph doesnt make u wanna drink much for some reason,i think its a good thing,right im off this time deffo lol,later mate-keep her between the hedges!

[paddycue1977]

ok mate take it easy do the family thing im in the same boat shes at work though so have a nite to myself still bollixed yeah swim was well into the coke and i got some of the best at times but these days you dont know what its cut with and people turn into greedy selfish robbing cunts on in swim did not touch it in years but recently told bout the charge+ thought ws expensive but what isnt these days a nite on the drink costs 200 euro at times find it very good dont get mad craving for it at 6 in the morning and drive into the worst parts of town and to the dogiest cunts like the other stuff i find it a very nice way to spend a couple of hours little or no hangover and your not down on your hands and knees looking for bits and fiending i can take it or leave it , in my opinion people should buy this stuff (charge+) and stop giving there money to the scumbag coke dealers whot give a fuck about them or anyone else who have the county swims live in in a war zone in some areas.ok if it ws coke above 50-60% coke would win hands down but who gets that only guys why up the food chain people throwing away money buying 5% bag of coke is madness get urself to a headshop stuff is good i m still whacked on the 1st line and i cant type for shit nd im still at it , id better get off this comp and do something b4 i get myself in trouble PLEASE PEOPLE READING THIS DOSE IV 20-30MG IT AINT CHARGE+OR ANYTHING LIKE IT IM 9 +HOURS AND IM STILL FLYING IT ON 1 LINE OK I WILL GO IM TALKING TOO MUCH SHIT BE CARE FUL PEOPLE

paddycue1977 added 38 Minutes and 20 Seconds later...

starting to come around a bit def amphet like feel to this esp the come down going to do one more bumb quater the size of the first i would not do this last bumb if i had work in the mornin feeling it would be a rough day but we will see still havent eaten a thing today and still no desire to anyway have the benzos if things get too rough let u know how i get on its mad stuff i tell you

paddycue1977 added 97 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

redosed bout 40 mins ago fucked again eyeballed the line was a bit on the large size but nowhere near the size of the line i did earlier.This chem is def not one to be fucked with i bought a 1 g bag and a dose of 25mg is plenty to get you going so thats 40 doses in one bag very diff to other products on the market as far as im aware im new to this rc game. I made the mistake of doing a fairly large Ivory Wave line earlier and im still wired i dident do any research but no harm done thank god(by chance said i would look it up cos i wanted to watch movies sick of the comp at the moment and it said extremely small doses i fully agree with this its a great buzz amphet like but it was very overwhelming and potent and i hve a feeling i wont be sleeping 2nite and 1000mg bags are not needed with this one a 1g bag could keep 10 people going i think, there is no fiending with this one for me so far its not a real head rush but has a nice amphet like feel to it talking is very easy and typing(i never posed on a site in my life just browsed through posts thats why spelling is bad grammer etcetc but i just wanted to warn users of this new product to be careful swim did a lot of speed back in the day and this isnt far off it i dont think its suitable for a pub situation too much chewing ur face and barmen and boncers dont like that possibly more suited to a 10 hour rave or a boxset marathon or a thesis cos IT WILL KEEP YOU AWAKE and i feel fairly alert (i could have a conversation with an officer of the law and prob get away with it)but if i had not looked up info on this product i would have done the 1000mg in a few hours(like i do with charge+) and i dont think i could handle it Prob be awake 3 days solid i reckon even with sleepers YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED PEOPLE . I am just writing this as a user i have vey little chemical knowledge unlike most of u guys here .But this is a strong one those with anxiaty and depression should prob avoid this one have .Anyway im still enjoying the buzz and rambling again(book writers could find this handy) I Hate to repeat myself and other people on this thread dose as small as possible a quater the size of your avg coke line i really think 1000mg bags is overdoing it but good for us i suspose but any niave kids who get there hands on this stuff thinks its like charge could be in for a nasty suprise i just read somewhere could have been this site that ists 10 times more potent than cocaine and last 8 times longer but who knows more info is def needed on this one i think thats my 2 cents anyway(ps dont have a mobile phone with u u will text every fucker u know or the internet and talk shit on a forum that u just joinedps u will sweat like a cunt as well and if u plan on havin a nite to remember u might need a few blue tablets the 100mg ones i reckon and hope for the bestFuck its 11.30 already im sitting on this comp 12 fucking hours . I Will leave u with this, anything that gets you going this high for this long the come down is going to be bad well thats usually the case, i wonder if this is what meth is likeTalk later if anyone is listening anyone who has read all this post must be as fucked up as me gf is home in about an hour better take some sleepers or she will throw me out

paddycue1977 added 42 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

fuck i bollixed swim has a few rophynol and valiums wanted to save the roofies for another nite there hard to come by and expensive have plenty vals and zimovane will def have to take something this stuff is very strong i think is a job for the roofies but i dont think they will do the job . I Had the misfortune of taking this wet speed b4 which the dealer called base i went through a few gramms of it 3 days wide awake even took antiphocits(spelt wrong i know)800mg of serequel dident even put me out that nite and this feels very similar looking at the bag of ivory again it looks like theres 3 5ths left of what was in it so thats 400mg i think i dunno gone braindead i think 150mg would have done fine should hve done the redose either if your going messing with this stuff do it in the day that way might get sleep that nite i dunno if it has abuse potential (i dont think so i wont be running out buying a bag again in a hurry)But it is very enjoyable and at the price per g and the low dose required very affordable .I Think if i was going out for nite on the piss, charge+ would win hands down dunno if you should drink on it but i do! feeling a body tired a bit now and a bit jumpy thats to be expected i suppose with the dose i took less is def more with this product(never thought id say that im a fiend with ething but its not fun staying up days when u have work and family etc ok i will take some benzos (prob need bout 6mg of roph only have 3mg prob waste of time and pills taking zimovane or vals dont think there going to take me down oh well dont have work 2morrow thank fuck any way im going to read this in the morning and go what kind of idiot are my posting all this madness BUT THATS THE IVORY WAVE guys i will prob del my a/c in the mornin

paddycue1977 added 29 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

i know i keep adding to this post cant help it but its is quite hard to urinate and fellas will know what im talking about what happens your dick after a day of drinking and taking good es back in the day or cold whether i took a look inh mirror look fucked i dident prepare for this drug best to take vitimins and eat cos u will not eat a bit the guerning is a bit bad i believe if u take zinc in can help with that def crashing now though still was a mad 12 hous leave this drug to the pros kids thats it im finished typing for a while wish i had some fucking orange juice o yeah that bottle of wine i opened with the poweder is still there with one sip taken out of the glass and im half an alcoholic i have no desire to drink at all i dont think it would add to the experience anyway in fact it would prob make the comedown worse i would imagine , if u were drunk taking this could be very messy strong stims+alcohol usually end in tears . I hope if have neither turned someone on or off taking this bath salt but i cant imagine much sronger than this stuff and dose as small as possible a match head its nearly enough 25mg is pretty small compared to your avg coke line if you treat this stuff like coke and hover it up your in for a very nasty ride its a 24 hr drug if u ask me unless u do 12.5mg lines i suppose and redose once so make sure u have a few days or u will get funny looks going into work at 9 in the mornin(the coke heads know what im talking about) MODS I AM NEW ON HERE HAVE PROB BROKEN EVERY RULE I DUNNO YEER POLICY ON SWEARING NO FULL STOPS PUNCT PRODUCT NAMING ETC ETC BUT PEOPLE SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF THIS VERY POWERFUL RC AND HOW TO USE PROPERLY FROM SOMEONE WHO MADE THE MISTAKE AT 12AM AND ITS 13 HOURS LATER SO PLEASE EDIT THIS POST AS MUCH AS U LIKE BUT DONT DEL PLEASE . Paddy Nite

[paddycue1977]

but thats 40 doses in one bag i thought it was like charge where most people i know do a cuple of bags a nite and can sleep if u did 1 gram of this stuff you would be up a week im lucky i looked it up i reckon i have 400mg done bout 300mg at 1230 this mornin and im still fucked

paddycue1977 added 5 Minutes and 59 Seconds later...

im all for legalize drugs etc but as you said a 25mg dose will get u there why give bags at 1000mg some idiot like me is going to take a few grams of it one nite and not know the effects people should be made aware there isnt much about this chem online from what i have seen

paddycue1977 added 8 Minutes and 43 Seconds later...

Thats why sites like this are a must and yes i agree 25mg for a newbe and 50mg would rock the socks of richard pryor i hope this tread is viewed by a few more people b4 they try this powerful chem . What would you compare this to blasterboy i reckon nice mild coke or charge+ at 25-50mg but something onto meth at high doses i think nyhing over 400mg is asking for trouble no matter how experienced you are

paddycue1977 added 14 Minutes and 47 Seconds later...

Just a quick reply swin found some bromazapam earlier on took 4 3mg think there faster acting than diaz dont want to waste the roph, but nothing like i never took them fuck its going to be a long nite or early tommorow afternonn i will be asleep i reckon i dont think taking more benzo is going to help ps i have 2 zimovane taken as well

paddycue1977 added 10 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

have some risperdol they are the small dose ones i dont think i want to take antiphocts(spelt wrong) i think i have enough in the mix i hope this is a warning, gf in the door pissed off as hell with me cos i havent cleaned up told her i trying to help the masses to educate them on does and donts of IVORY WAVE DOSES she looked at me as if have two headsBTW IM STILL FUCKED

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STILL UP KIDS SHES GONE TO BED PISSED AT ME COS I HAVE NOT MOVED FROM THE COMP ALL DAY AND SHE THINKS IM ON MORE THAN iVORY SHES DRUGS NIAVE SHE NEW I DID COKE AND ES B4 I MET HER AND SHE HATES THAT SHIT AS SHE CALLED ITAND I HAVE STOPPED FULLY AND EVEN CUT DOWN ON THE DRINK AND SHE THINGs NOW IM ON COKE or Something!!!!!! SHE DOES NOT MIND ME DOING CHARGE+ COS IT LEGAL SHE TRIED IT HERSELFwith me one nite cos her friend said it was good and its legal EVEN BUT JUST THOUGHT IT WAS OK AND THIS GIRLS HAS NEVER DONE DRUGS EVEN SMOKED A JOINT OR EVEN TAKE ANY NUROFEN+ FOR GODS SAKE she was just not getting the high said it was boring get more of a kick off the drink.She has let me do the charge + on ocassion price being the biggest issue with it she says im nice on it and good form and grand the next day plus it makes you horney as fuck.Well she walked in the door an hour ago said i would clean up a bit forget to do it she take one look at me says im on something i told her already i took something she was there when i took the charge+live of Ivory i told her i have taken i tiny line more showed her the bag even now god only knows what she THINGS im on Seriouly this stuff also makes u look cracked out of it trust me

[akack2]

alright Paddy mate,take her handy,dont redose man,just get through the comedown,no one will believe you when you tell them how stong this is but just get through it and you be ok.
Dont delete your profile,you have done nothing wrong thats just the paranoia,we need folk like yourself who have the decency to come on here and warn others.

Let us know how you feeling tomorow.

Good luck man.

akack2 added 3 Minutes and 22 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

paddycue1977 added 61 Minutes and 10 Seconds later...

STILL UP KIDS SHES GONE TO BED PISSED AT ME COS I HAVE NOT MOVED FROM THE COMP ALL DAY AND SHE THINKS IM ON MORE THAN iVORY SHES DRUGS NIAVE SHE NEW I DID COKE AND ES B4 I MET HER AND SHE HATES THAT SHIT AS SHE CALLED ITAND I HAVE STOPPED FULLY AND EVEN CUT DOWN ON THE DRINK AND SHE THINGs NOW IM ON COKE or Something!!!!!! SHE DOES NOT MIND ME DOING CHARGE+ COS IT LEGAL SHE TRIED IT HERSELFwith me one nite cos her friend said it was good and its legal EVEN BUT JUST THOUGHT IT WAS OK AND THIS GIRLS HAS NEVER DONE DRUGS EVEN SMOKED A JOINT OR EVEN TAKE ANY NUROFEN+ FOR GODS SAKE she was just not getting the high said it was boring get more of a kick off the drink.She has let me do the charge + on ocassion price being the biggest issue with it she says im nice on it and good form and grand the next day plus it makes you horney as fuck.Well she walked in the door an hour ago said i would clean up a bit forget to do it she take one look at me says im on something i told her already i took something she was there when i took the charge+live of Ivory i told her i have taken i tiny line more showed her the bag even now god only knows what she THINGS im on Seriouly this stuff also makes u look cracked out of it trust me

i know the bouncers were chasin me out of pubs,then the airport security,dont worry mate she will see how bad it is if you show her these posts in the morning (not now but when youre a bit more straight,i wish i could tell her now how bad it is but you know she wouldnt understand a stranger sayin it.Its not that bad though mate,dont worry,it will be grand,it allways seems worse than it is hey.

[paddycue1977]

Kids stick to the charge+ this ivory wave is for people who dose correctly or alcoholics who wants to stay up a few days drinking, nearly 3 and not a fucking hope of sleeping benzo not even touching this shit half thinking of fucking the rest of the bag away

paddycue1977 added 4 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

has to be the strongest rc but as i said why give out 1000mg bags when a good dose is 25mg can see people going insane if they take the full bag and up 3 nights i will tell by buddies who know bout drugs this stuff this in not for the kids who hoover up anything like its going out of fashion

[paddycue1977]

Welcome back acack2 im still here will be up the nite im afraid i just thank god i looked up here after the first dose and did not do teh lot will research in future would imagine very good in 25mg to 50mg doses but what i took as a starter line was stupid i hope any one reading this sticks to thse doses more is less believe me i had a great day but i reached the ceiling dose which is quite low and after that its just all the bad effects of a stim feel ok just raring to go and its 3.13 i want to go to bed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[paddycue1977]

i will put as simple as i can say a young college student 18 years of age goes to a shop to buy charge+ he has heard good reports bout it have havent had any bad side effects yet althought i havent ventured over g and a half just think 1 g i fine for me i gone pat getting mangled been there done that, but anyway he is sold this ivory wave stuff in the same package same size and same price no dose indications he will do the lot in a few hours in the pub with his friends he is in for a big shock, resellers should advise people of doses i know we should research oursellves but not all do me initially today the bones of 15 hours on one line and a small redose was going to buy 2 grammes the resellers said it was so good .Well i hope that people young and old read my ramblings tonite Read this story this is powerful shit my friends think i will wait for the chrarge+to come back again this stuff is for serious stim lovers

paddycue1977 added 8 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

Thanks i Know i moaning a bit., comedown not great body tired from benzos but mind still going 500 miles an hour ya think a few days getting over this but have had worse hangovers even when i was being mauled by he gf i dident snap was quite calm if that was coke or speed i think there might of been an argument as i siad good product lot of potential but should not be sold in 1000mg bags maby should be sold in cap form what the fuck is them chem theres diff ans everywhere

paddycue1977 added 12 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

Thanks for the help akack2 might ask you b4 i try anything new again, and i have learned by leason look up info b4 consuming anything i always did with every other drug precribed and unprescibed(u know what i mean)the one time i dident do an i come across the mad one ah well getting off this computer still fucking wired have 5 season of house downloaded prob get through 3 of them

[akack2]

Originally Posted by paddycue1977

i will put as simple as i can say a young college student 18 years of age goes to a shop to buy charge+ he has heard good reports bout it have havent had any bad side effects yet althought i havent ventured over g and a half just think 1 g i fine for me i gone pat getting mangled been there done that, but anyway he is sold this ivory wave stuff in the same package same size and same price no dose indications he will do the lot in a few hours in the pub with his friends he is in for a big shock, resellers should advise people of doses i know we should research oursellves but not all do me initially today the bones of 15 hours on one line and a small redose was going to buy 2 grammes the resellers said it was so good .Well i hope that people young and old read my ramblings tonite Read this story this is powerful shit my friends think i will wait for the chrarge+to come back again this stuff is for serious stim lovers

paddycue1977 added 8 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

Thanks i Know i moaning a bit., comedown not great body tired from benzos but mind still going 500 miles an hour ya think a few days getting over this but have had worse hangovers even when i was being mauled by he gf i dident snap was quite calm if that was coke or speed i think there might of been an argument as i siad good product lot of potential but should not be sold in 1000mg bags maby should be sold in cap form what the fuck is them chem theres diff ans everywhere

paddycue1977 added 12 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

Thanks for the help akack2 might ask you b4 i try anything new again, and i have learned by leason look up info b4 consuming anything i always did with every other drug precribed and unprescibed(u know what i mean)the one time i dident do an i come across the mad one ah well getting off this computer still fucking wired have 5 season of house downloaded prob get through 3 of them

Back again real quick,already thought of sellin it in caps,maybe 30mg a cap but you knowwhats goin to happen,lads will double/triple and quadruple drop and then.....

Id rather not be a millionaire than have someones death on me conscience,youre still under the influence thats why youre tryin to think of ways to keep it available,forget about it,its for the bin and thats it,hope Im not offendin you here and i really gotta go now,take care man.

*youre welcome man,glad it happened tonight when i could reply,and dont worry sure look i to it without checkin what it was and i should REALLY know better lol,watch some tv,relax urself,chat soon

akack2 added 3 Minutes and 13 Seconds later...

ul get through 3 seasons?

LMAO youl get through 5 and then youl watch them again lol

guarantee you

[paddycue1977]

well i dunno if it for the bin just has to be dosed correctly i dont think eyeballing doses out of a full bag is a good idea which i was i did, i really enjoyed the experience though but if you took 10times the recommed dose of any chem u will have problems goodnite all

paddycue1977 added 25 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...

your right akack on reflection i think its prob for the bin, too potent a drug, doses are tiny 25mg and the ceiling dose low, hard for people to grasp that who are used to speed coke etc.Dident have any problems with heart etc benzos do nothing for the come down took in total 16mg of bromazapam and 15 mg of zimovane and i dont feel them on me at all there better rcs out there folks but if your a try anything kinda person be careful with this one

paddycue1977 added 123 Minutes and 38 Seconds later...

well its now 6.45 hve drank a bottle of wine and a load more benzos and no sleep decided to do the rest of the ivory i cant sleeep anyway some might as well be wired at this hour

paddycue1977 added 51 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...

been a bout 10 mins since i redosed am i am absolutly fucked , i really did not want to redose but i could not sleep any bit me a bottle of wine and the amount of benzos i took i reckon its now 8 by 3mg bromazapam and 4 zimos and nothing at all not even a yawn i did teh dog on the last line i reckon 200mg i know stupid i said but i cant sleep and not doing this stuff EVER AGAIN AND I WONT BE HAPPY STILL TIL ITS ALL GONE ITS NOT MOREISH BUT I CANT THROW AWAY DRUGS ITS A SIN IN MY EYES SHE WILL BE UP AT NINE TO BRING THE CHILD TO SCHOOL DONT WORRY THE CHILD WONT SEE ME AM IN ANOTHER PART OF THE HOUSE LAST TIME MESSING WITH THIS SHIT FOR A LONG TIME EVEN IF IT LASTS THAT LONG I WILL BE DOING THE 1000MG I KNOW STUPID BUT I KNOW MYSELF HOW IM REACTING TO IT I JUST WONT SLEEP UNTIL THIS FRI FUCKING HELL IM AS WRECKED AS I WAS AT 2 O CLOCK TODAY I NOT GOING TO SAY BE CAREFUL ANYWOME COS I DID WHAT I TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO DO , BUT AS MY FATHER ALWAYS SAID DO S I SAY NOT AS I DO.SORRY BOUT THE CAPS DIDENT KNOW THEY WERE ON THIS SHIT IS CRAZZZZZZZZZY! A once off for me (i hope) sticking to my charge+Prob will have another rant soon but i am not condoning taking 200mg+ lines just cant sleep and not workin till turs nites so if i cannnot sleep might as well not sleep in style but i will pay the price tommorow believe me newbe stick to 20-30mg exp stick to 50mg my own opion im khow i repeating myself but im tyring to it this home this is not a charge+ to take on a fri nite cos u will still be wake mon morning havin ur shower wishing the world would end i have 3 days to recover and i feel i will need them , believe me if i took 10 rophynol i would still be awake just watchig sky news fed beaten in the us open was meant to watch that fuck this Ivory wave only jokin ,but serioulsly has anoneelse rambled on as much as i have over the last ???? hours fuck it will be 24 hours straight at bout ,5 hours kids again u have been warned i will look like the evil dead 2morrow at bout 6, but im sure someone ahs done more yapping than me on a crank binge 14 days you could write lot of bullshit i d say but more than likely my first days post will be all del i serioully hope it is (as you can see not used to forums or blogging or facebook or twitter that kinda thing passed me out although i know what is is how to use it but just have no interest my gf set me up a bebo page i have have never used it rambling again if my friend from cork sees this he will have a funny mornin tell them now why not to take ivory wave just look at this post and the amount of bs i have spouted i reckon one quater the bag left will leave till bout 9 to be safe!!!!Please kids down try this at home dont mix with booze and benzos cos they will make u lose ur inibitions nd do whats left of this shit why oh why dident i buy the .2 bag today that i was offered but on the opside i wouldent be curning like mad on now

paddycue1977 added 169 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

jUSTA BIT FROM WIKI IF THE DRUG IS CFT WHICH IS ALREASigma-Aldrich categorizes CFT as being a "very toxic" chemical and recommends the use of gloves, goggles, protective apron and respirator while handling it, and states it must only be used in a fume hood. However this description is not supported by the known toxicology of CFT based on its widespread use in animals over a 30 year period and so this extreme caution is difficult to reconcile with the chemical and pharmacological properties of the drug; this may instead reflect concerns about its abuse potential rather than actual potential to cause poisoning. The drug data sheet notes that serious side effects can occur following exposure to CFT, including CNS stimulation, dilation of eye pupils, euphoria, breathing difficulties, nervousness, restlessness, hypertension, fainting, paleness, arrhythmia, cardiac arrest, convulsions, and death. Prolonged or repeated exposure to CFT may result in habituation or addiction.DY POSED IN THIS TREAD

aNOTHER QOUTECFT is about as addictive as cocaine in animal studies, but is taken less often due to its longer duration of action. Potentially this could make it a suitable drug to be used as a substitute for cocaine, in a similar manner to how methadone is used as a substitute for opiates in treating addiction.

(-)-2-β-Carbomethoxy-3-β-(4-fluorophenyl)tropane (β-CFT, WIN-35,428) is a stimulant drug used in scientific research. CFT is a phenyltropane based dopamine reuptake inhibitor and is structurally derived from cocaine. It is around 3-10x more potent than cocaine and lasts around 7 times longer based on animal studies. While the naphthalenedisulfonate salt is the most commonly used form in scientific research due to its high solubility in water, the free base and hydrochloride salts are known compounds and can also be produced. The tartrate is another salt form that is reported.[1]

paddycue1977 added 3 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

High soubility in water let iv the stuff altogeather

paddycue1977 added 3 Minutes and 29 Seconds later...

Joking kids i would say an iv shot would be your last iv shot would rather shoot myself:>

paddycue1977 added 18 Minutes and 10 Seconds later...

I WOULD SAY IF THIS IS THE CHEM IN IVORY WAVE THERE FIG ARE WAY OFF 3-10 TIMES MORE POTENT THAN COCAINE IT WOULD PROSUME THE TALKING ABOUT LAB GRADE COKE HIGH 90%IF NOT 99.9% IF LAB GRADE IM NOT A CHEMIST OK I WILL ROB FROM WIKI AGAINIn the field of pharmacology, potency is a measure of drug activity expressed in terms of the amount required to produce an effect of given intensity. A highly potent drug evokes a larger response at low concentrations. It is proportional to affinity and efficacy.I WOULD SAY THE POTENCY IS DEF AT THE HIGH END OF THAT MAYBE A SMALL BIT FOR HIGHER AS FOR IT LASTING 7 TIMES LONGER THAN COCAINE I WOULD SAY THAT FIG IN MY OPIONION I HVE NOT DONE LAB COKE BUT DONE FAIRLY HIGH SO I CAN GUESSTIMATE IN LAY MANS TURNS THAT IT IS A LOT MORE THAN THAT HOW LONG WOULD IG OF PURE COCAINE LAST IN AN AMINAL I CANT EVEV SPELL OR SEE STRAIGT BUT WOULD IMAGINE STILL CHEM TO LAST A LOT LONGER THAN 7 TIMES THATS MY OWN OPIONION I AM NOT EXPERT IN ANY MEANS AS U CAN PROB TELL IT WOULD SAY 20 TIMES AND I WOULD NOT SAY THE PRODUCT IN IVORY WAVE COTAINS 99.9% OF ITS PURE PRODUCT THANK GOD I WOULD IMAGINE THERE ARE OTHER FILLERS IN IN

paddycue1977 added 45 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

i know will make it easier to read next time should prob do these reports straight in future, these ramblings will make no sence to many but i think i have made the most important point enough times that people will get stay away too strong at any dose above 20mg for an novice is plenty 200mg and you in for the comedown of the decade stick the charge+ and u cant go wrong i know u can get the chem online cheaper but i support my local sorry agin bout all the rambling but wanted to share the exp might save a young girl or guy a trip to the hospital a lot of the kids dont understand some of the tech stuff on the site i dont either im not afraid to say so i just put it as it came to me thats the only way i can do it not being from a chem backround im just a lowely lab rat and a sick one today unforuntly

paddycue1977 added 16 Minutes and 13 Seconds later...

Coming up to the 24 hour mark bad bad stuff still havent eaten no desire to do so i think this will go another 12 forget to add took my 3mg of rophnol just know i really dont think this will work any suggestions besides dont be so stupid next time???

Reputation Comments on this post:

It's good that you share information, but perhaps try and make it a little easier to read because this is an internation...

[akack2]

Mate fuck that bag in the toilet,I thought you already had,dump it now.

Its not for Alcos or anyone else,it shouldnt be touched by anyone,dump it,detox and get on with your life,your gf will understand in the morning.

DONT REDOSE PLEASE MATE.

Just get through it,you will be grand.

akack2 added 1 Minutes and 27 Seconds later...

Most headshops dont have a clue what they're selling,its a problem,I have told them to stop selling this but to no avail.

Its bad shit,survive and carry on man,it will be grand.

[akack2]

cheers man,u wont be right for a few days mate but the worst will be over shortly,just keep busy with shit and show your gf this in the morning,she will understand,this is a powder that shouldnt be consumed,really shouldnt,not even in 25mg doses,seriously.My wee fella is gone to bed and I need to go to as I have o watch him in the morning,hope I was of some help and I will chat to ye tomorrow.take it easy and talk soon.Keep the chin up man.

[paddycue1977]

just gone 24 hours still wide wake my girlfiried told i look like death and i am sweating like a pig still chem does raise ur temp quite a bit , i dont know what chem it is but for me i took why to much a dose without researching i would est but 200-300g an ave charge size line it was very very intence its was at that dose for me a very speedy high and quite a good head rush ,really kicked in after bout 10 mins, Thats when i decided to look it up(i know stupid i look up everything usually) But i went to by locally seller he did not have the charge+ which i am failrly new to,went to a diff place got a bag same price same size just a diff name Ivory wave so i thought some thing similar, when i read the report got a shock the intially dose i took at bout 1pm lat me till 11 that nite took a redose at bout 11.30 i think even though i dident need it was still up at 5 really speedy feeling i have taken a lot of benzo through the nite i dont want to mention what or how much i have it already mentioned i drank a bottle of wine fast no help like i dident even drink it (will all know booze+a lot of benzos =sleep blackout) i did fell one bit of them i have taken 3 roph bout an hour ago no feeling whats so ever. i said at 9am was going to finish the bag(idiot) had a fairly large line 200+mg(thank god i saw sence) i am wideeee awake bodyachess till a bit of gurning but its stopping i had a lookat the bag i bought 1000g there is loads left .i hope this post makes more sence than the last ones was in a bad way but my heart is in the right place Ok HERES MY TOO 2C DONT TOO IT AT ALL PREF TOO POTENT AND DOSEING COULD BE TRICKY FOR NEWBiES HAND POURING OUT OF BAGS NOT A GOOD IDEA .I dont know why they want to sell 1000g bags thats 40 doses of potent stuff.Ok dont do what i did dose prob as stated bys other in better grammer and me 25mg newbee 50 very exp stim users this is one of the most potent chem i have come across in a long time please me careful,What happed me could happen some else an do a charge size line of this stuff and belive the comedown is bad and its getting worse. i know mods this is long seriouly del all the other rambling but leave this dont want some kid to go throgh what i am and i have a load of the powder left And its going in the bins if you are going to do this regardless(which many hopefully wont much better stuff out there with no of the side effects i know my own fault but could happen again very easily) buy the .2 grammes and scales eat well b4 dosing take vitimins water and all the other harm reduction techniques i dident bother with benzo might help with the CORRECT dose but they have done absoultly nothing for me even the roffies so there you go was it worth it def no did not reserch and did not respect the drug other other members advice not to redose.Please mods i am some why right now please dont del this experiene is now exp are more for erowid but there usually rubbish and hold no credence .This is the real deal and it aint fun my girlfried keeps asking am i ok every 5 mins i m glad i have some with me .less is def more in this case Thanks paddy still wide awake really regettting my rants online last nite but this will do that to u.Be careful folks

paddycue1977 added 11 Minutes and 23 Seconds later...

does tolerence rise quickly ? how long are u doing the chem? Have you ever overdosed a bit or a lot what ws the come down like and how many hours were u up

Thanks sorry not being nosey just want to find out a bit more info on this

paddycue1977 added 34 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

was reading that a good dose is 10mg and some even find 3.4mg enough
would body weight effect the dose in a large way ie 6,6 240lb man 5,2 70lb women with substane where 10mg is a sweet spot for some people 25mg could be very uncomforable for some a lot lighter i just fell that when you dealing with small mg care should be made to start as small as possible

paddycue1977 added 21 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

can just ask a few qs please i think your the best to anns these qs with your exp on this chem thanks in adv
does tolerence rise quickly ? how long are u doing the chem? Have you ever overdosed a bit or a lot what ws the come down like and how many hours were u up

Thanks sorry not being nosey just want to find out a bit more info on this
was reading that a good dose is 10mg and some even find 3.4mg enough
would body weight effect the dose in a large way ie 6,6 240lb man 5,2 70lb women with substane where 10mg is a sweet spot for some people 25mg could be very uncomforable for some a lot lighter i just fell that when you dealing with small mg care should be made to start as small as possible

and one more what is the best way to come down of this have tried the stongest benzo and a few others no good dident even feel them 3mg roph or iam i just goiung to have to ride the wave its been 24 hours and it feels like it could be another 24

paddycue1977 added 41 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

still wired guys not good need some support 29hrs

[shadowchaser]

not to sound too much like a mother (or a wife) but 1 swiy shouldn't have redosed so much especially having been told not to. 2 it should have been flushed when akack2 suggested it last night.

anyway this thread is a good advert for not going anywhere near the stuff I think, whether or not the initial asthma claim was right.

[paddycue1977]

i know the redose was really stupid i have learned a leason i redosed at 9 cos i was wide awke any way and said fuck it i up might as well go for real rollacoster ride dosent work that way just get the neg amphet effects i think my ceiling dose was reached bout 12 hours b4 that its a super potent drug and not for me(its for people who can handle there high, dose to the exact mg and do it sober imagine a guy pulling this shit out in a nite club with everyone pissed and just bang any size rails in the toilets ) was fun but the come down for me had tured me off rc for a while i think my own fault this gad great potential for the proper informed rc lover not for idiots like me

paddycue1977 added 13 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

i hope its a good advert i dont mind making a fool out of my self online if even one person is save by this tread we have done something good havent we if SWIM had to the 1000mg like SWIM waS going to i really think something bad would have happed not phycially i am fairly fit heart ect fine but mentially i am very jittery at the moment have the gf here she is helping if i was out diff story i think can bel benzo dident even reg with me you know how much i took over the nite and i DIDENT FEEL AT ALL . I Got LUCKY ESACAPE, DIDENT HEAD THE WARNINGS PLEASE DONT DO THE SAME PS ANY IDEAS TO HELP EASE THIS PLEASEI KNOW I PROB DONT DESERERVE IT OR IS THERE SYMPATHY AMONG RC USERS COS EVERY ONE I KNOW SAYS A HANGOVER IS YOUR OWN FAULT AND YOU GET NO SYMPATHY FOR FROM DRINKERS ESP SEASONED ONES ANY WAY ITS NOW 30 HOUS I THINK BAD BAD BAD BOYS AND GIRLS

[akack2]

Mate you could be awake for another 3 days,get someone to rent you a few DVDs and get some food in.I dont advise going out in public.

[paddycue1977]

Def 24 hours this is hell if its 3 days i will crack up