Opinions - NaGHB vs KGHB vs Calcium or Magnesium GHB vs GBL euphoria

[Dead-N]

Swim has an old promoter/club owner friend visiting and is wanting to not disappoint when it comes to the drugs swim's friend should have on hand.

Ok all weights of each metal aside(Thinking of making a calculator to help determine equal doses) . Is there truly a difference in the effects of the "high"? Swim is at a point where any works just fine to make him not feel like a basket case but what if a close friend were travelling to SWIMS area and wanted to enjoy some G like old times. Remember that swim's opinion isn't so trusting since his tolerance is just inhumane.

Would it be disappointing to the friend if KGHB was servied vs NaGHB? Swim hasn't worked with the Na version in quite some time, but when he did there felt to be no difference vs KGHB as long as weight difference was accounted for.

According to thise forums, some say that KGHB produces no real high or euphoria. SWIM is past the good feelings like that so it's hard for him to judge which is best. Swim enjoys KGHB mostly due to the fact that it seems to last longer and the come down is more gradual but he never gets the old initial high/rush that he first got on any form of GHB anyway.

Some times Swim is thinking it's best to just serve GBL since that seems to be what most are after when they want to get that old G high going. It was what was going around during the early 90s-2000's and Swim tends to think that is what most equate G to..

True GHB is much more subtle and the high is not that loony thing that some of the older raver types remember and enjoy the most.

Just not wanting to disappoint an old friend when he comes around. Maybe with enough quality speed and true molly it won't matter either way.

In other words.. is KGHB and NaGHB just as capable as giving that euphoric rush and wanting to dance/screw type of feeling? Swim just has way too much use of these to judge on his one of what would be for a fun time for those without crazy tolerance.

Thansk!
-DN

[MrG]

The intoxication and "high" experienced by recreational GHB users comes not from the potassium or sodium etc. it is bound to, but from the GHB molecule itself.

There is no reason why one would be more or less effective than the other.

[Dead-N]

That clears that up. Maybe Swim's thinking that KGHB lasts longer and less intoxicating is more placebo then anything else. If only SWIM had an army of rats to test that theory on. They would probably need to be talking rats to let swim know how they felt on each so that a proper blind dosing test could be given

Talking rats, now that would be helpful. It's funny how our minds play tricks on us and how we respond to slight variations on a substance even though there is none.

-DN

[tdawe1]

Whilst it is correct that the high comes from the GHB molecule itself, GBL is the fastest out of those to be metabolised and hit the brain, I find it has a stronger 'rush' or euphoria.