Smoking - L-dopa(Mucuna pruriens) smoked along with Syrian Rue

[benzoylmethyl ecognine]

SWIM tried smoking some l-dopa pills mixed in with Syrian Rue. It gives a pretty noticable effect, you get a large dose of dopamine. What happens is the l-dopa gets smoked goes into the brain gets converted to dopamine and the maois in the syrian rue stop the breakdown of the dopamine so the brain has elevated levels of dopamine.

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Incorrect Info.....not a good idea

[Potter]

You have to be kidding? Do you have any proof to back up these claims? Do you have any idea if this is at all safe? Smoking pills? What else is in these them besides L-dopa? Are those chemicals safe to smoke?

I hope to hell no one else thinks this is a smart thing to be doing.

[corvardus]

Whilst SWIM can't speak for the OP the "L-Dopa" pills and extracts tend to be from Mucuna pruriens which have a range of substances which would be of interest to dennizens of this forum such as trace amounts of 5-HT, DMT and others as well as the aforementioned L-dopa. (link)

According to the MSDS of L-dopa (link) though it decomposes at 270°C so SWIM would be dubious about smoking it rather than normal oral consumption, but erowid says that it is possible. As with cannabis and tobacco most of it is destroyed through combustion but, obviously, sufficient goodies get through to make it a pleasant experience.

With the Syrian Rue, again Erowid would indicate that it is possible to consume it via smoking but it is far more potent, Re: MAOI, if it is consumed orally.

SWIM would believe that smoking it is not the way to go, but to consume it orally for both Mucuna pruriens and the Syrian Rue, but SWIM can't really argue against the wisdom of smoking this combination.

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Good information

[chibi curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by benzoylmethyl ecognine

SWIM tried smoking some l-dopa pills mixed in with Syrian Rue. It gives a pretty noticable effect, you get a large dose of dopamine. What happens is the l-dopa gets smoked goes into the brain gets converted to dopamine and the maois in the syrian rue stop the breakdown of the dopamine so the brain has elevated levels of dopamine.

This actually isn't the worst idea I've seen on Drugs-Forum.

But it's close.

Prolonged elevated levels of dopamine? I don't know what could possibly go wrong... (That was sarcasm, for our thicker readers.)

[helikophis]

Originally Posted by chibi curmudgeon

This actually isn't the worst idea I've seen on Drugs-Forum.

But it's close.

Prolonged elevated levels of dopamine? I don't know what could possibly go wrong... (That was sarcasm, for our thicker readers.)

Could you go into a little more detail about what could go wrong/why it's a bad idea? It would be helpful to have that sort of information in this thread, in case other folks are thinking about trying it.

Thanks!

[benzoylmethyl ecognine]

The danger of doing this is possibly gettin a condition similar to amphetamine psychosis due to such elevated levels of dopamine

[chibi curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by benzoylmethyl ecognine

The danger of doing this is possibly gettin a condition similar to amphetamine psychosis due to such elevated levels of dopamine

So you've pretty much explained why what you posted is a bad idea. If you knew this, why'd you post it in the first place?

So, what exactly happened to SWIY? You said a large dose of dopamine...was this actually a fun experience?

[benzoylmethyl ecognine]

SWIM posted it because it gets you high, smoking meth is a bad idea but people do it because it gets you high, it's the same idea here.

[chibi curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by benzoylmethyl ecognine

SWIM posted it because it gets you high, smoking meth is a bad idea but people do it because it gets you high, it's the same idea here.

There's--I assume--a massive difference between smoking meth and smoking l-dopa tabs.

Are you going to elaborate on this experience, or do you enjoy being a mercury member?

[salviablue]

IIRC, and a quick check shows i may, M.pruriens contains fair levels of nicotine (although, atm, I can only find reference to trace levels along with DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, 5-OH-DMT, so I may not rc after all) and is quite a source of phenylalanine. The indiginous people from where M.pruriens naturally "reside" brew the beans and call it coffee (nescafe?).
The seed pods are covered in fine needle like hairs containing 5 HT (serotonin), itch like buggery and can be found in bags of seeds/beans!

L-dopa(Mucuna pruriens)

I take it then, from the thread title, that these pills then are just powdered M.pruriens? See attachment for what else they may contain.

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	Good .doc
	Good information and very informative attachement.
	useful clarification

[benzoylmethyl ecognine]

So the effects SWIM recieved may not be entirely due to dopamine then, but the amounts of other chemicals seem to be negligible, would they even have an effect?

benzoylmethyl ecognine added 1 Minutes and 52 Seconds later...

Are you going to elaborate on this experience, or do you enjoy being a mercury member?[/QUOTE]

Ok all SWIM can say is it gave me a buzz it can't be described, and ya Being a mercury member is where it's at.

[SeconalClerek]

I like the theory, 1 + 2 x smoke = High.

[Dr.Evil]

This WILL NEVER WORK. It is literally impossible to smoke L-DOPA. If you look it up on a chemical database it's melting point is only 295 Celsius, an average flame like the one on a lighter or candle is about 1,100 Celsius. L-DOPA would most likely be vaporized, and most definetly lose its biological activity at more that 700 degrees higher than it's melting point.

I would not do this, because most likely all your smoking is harmful binders and impurities for no effect.