Culture - Acid is back

[chrustol]

Originally Posted by Caliform

I want to reply to the Blue Letter who said availibility of LSD would have dropped because of, what in the media is pictured as, huge busts of gargantuan LSD labs. Sure, the silo was impressive, but it's a pretty stable market. Where there is a demand there is always a source.

I agree with that it is always a source. In my country most of blotter's come from Netherlands, France and Germany and SWIM told me that situation of LSD labs in those country's is quite good. In America also. There are as many as is needed to be. but therefore the price include transport cost's

[Dogears]

LSD is starting to make a come back in the USA, however it is happening slowly. Now days you have to watch out for people selling potent RCs on blotter and misrepresenting it as LSD.

[nanobrain]

Down Under is flooded ATM w/liquid, microdots, paper and even pill-form LSD, potency ranging from ~50 to upwards of 300 mikes per dose. psytrance scene.

[GDxCAT]

^good shit nano.
"im off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of AUS."

[kiki]

swim's been having trouble finding it around here (midwest). the last time swim got some actual acid was a few years ago... since then it's been getting ripped off (ie, sugar cubes that were nice and tasty but didn't make swim trip at all) or just doing shrooms.

[Pinkavvy]

the northwest has been flooding with liquid and blotters all year.

[Nature Boy]

They're around here. Mister Men they are. Good high dose per blotter. SWIM might do them sometime over the holidays.

[Toltec]

Why is there so much quality LSD in Australia, You folks are very fortunate! Could it be because Owsley lives there too.
Here in the states; it's here, but it seem to only be in the biggest cities. Us who live WAY out way OUT usually get left out!
No biggie though, jealously speaking.
Happy Trails down-under )

[kinesis1337]

have not been able to find dose in so cali since 2000 when I had the Starwars Blotters they were really good first time dose. ever since then i lust for the stuff but its rarer than hen's teeth. you guys seem to say someone stepped up to the plate and there is a new Acid King. someone told me to go to where live music is maybe ill have some luck.

[anj0vis]

As far as our circles know, netherlands has the most readily available large stocks of acid in europe. Northern europe has always been pretty dry with acid and most of it comes in small quantities in hobbyists pockets from central europe. I simply wonder if there are other big labs outside netherlands too. Perhaps russian start to produce acid big time, who knows...

[Urban]

acids back?!
oh man! i wish?!
any sightings of it in england?
london?!
no?
please!

[raven3davis]

SWIM has only heard of weak but very clean liquid going around, 4 drops needed to start getting the good effects.

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

SWIM has only heard of weak but very clean liquid going around, 4 drops needed to start getting the good effects.

Weak but clean? How's that? Acid is acid. Do people have "dirty" acid where you live?

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by nature_boy_liam

Weak but clean? How's that? Acid is acid. Do people have "dirty" acid where you live?

weak but clean meaning it was not very potent but felt to be very pure. This could have just been placebo or what not considering trips are so dependant on set/setting but SWIM is well aware of the different forms of lsd and in his opinion a strong presence of impurities does alter the trip. this has been long debated and this probably is not the place, but this particular batch was very smooth and had a smoooooooth come down. swim has not had any acid that was dirty crap but some has seemed to be a bit more impure and the impurrities effect the trip, especially in larger doses.

you may not agree that there is such a thing as clean/dirty/inbetween acid, but many do. SWIM has no idea about the purity, but if he had to guess he would say this was lsd of high purity but per drop was not very potent. 6- 10 drops would have been a lot better

[treefingers49]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

SWIM has only heard of weak but very clean liquid going around, 4 drops needed to start getting the good effects.

It's not uncommon for liquid to be diluted as it passes through the ranks. A little "taxing" as they say.

[wallydam]

i know about rc's man alot of people are bieng retarded but hoping swim would get some in new england ^^

[-k4ge]

From what I have noticed in the circles I gather in, that LSD has become very popular in British Columbia. For a while it seemed everyone was trying to find it, but now it seems everyone has it.

[jarka]

Anyone seen such blotters?

You can see Bart's (The Simpsons you know ) feet on that blotter.
SWIM came across these in northern europe.
Are these any good? Or just RCs?

[Nature Boy]

SWIM has only ever done acid in blotters. Blotters only ever contain LSD and nothing else from what he has seen. The dosage would be the only variable in the strength/"purity" of a blotter. SWIM hardly suspects the blotters you use are "mixed" with anything. Such cases are extremely rare.

[raven3davis]

SWIM is not talking about adulterants, he is simply talking about impurities in the lsd. There are four isomers of LSD, D-LSD is the active isomer. This has been debated for a long time and many people have different opinions but when lsd is not pure or degrades because of age there will be a larger ratio of D-iso-LSD present in the acid. There is also L-LSD and L-iso-LSD which SWIM also does not think are active. One article says that pure d-LSD-25 is like a key that perfectly connects to the receptor sites in the brain.

That is about all SWIM knows on this subject he wont get much more into it because thats about all he knows. If you want an interesting article check this out...it is a pretty good read.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_writings1.shtml

From what SWIM knows, there definitely is such a thing as clean and dirty acid. The liquid seemed particularly clean and was said to be very pure and very fresh. Although it was pure/clean/fresh it was not very potent. It all just depends on how you dillute it, so it could have been 99%+ pure buy very diluted. The dosage has a lot to do with the stregnth but in swims opinion the purity not only effects the dose, but it effects the phsyical and mental cleanliness of the trip. If you lay 80% pure blotter at 100ug a pop then they will only be 80ug doses.

SWIM knows that it would be very unlikely for blotters to contain LSD and another chemical but you must keep in mind that LSD degrades quickly with exposure to light and heat so after x amount of time your cid is going to have more D-iso-LSD making it more "dirty." You can also have dirty acid right from the start if the chemist doesnt clean it very well. mayn pinkavvy could offer his opinion since he has has very fresh cid and will probably tell you that its quite different than dirty shit.

peaze

btw if looks mean anything then those bart simpsons look fuckin bomb. SWIM has heard of bart simpsons long ago back in the 80s which were supposedly boommb. those look pretty thick so there is a chance that they could be soaked with a research chemical but you will probably be able to tell by the taste.

[treefingers49]

SWIM has spoken with people close with some families, and the lack of LSD in the US was largely due to "many many people's lives being ruined". The harsh penalties for LSD distribution coupled with those high up on the chain being busted has lowered the quantity and raised the prices. People have been scared off of dealing with the stuff.

[twinkletoes]

Originally Posted by treefingers49

SWIM has spoken with people close with some families, and the lack of LSD in the US was largely due to "many many people's lives being ruined". The harsh penalties for LSD distribution coupled with those high up on the chain being busted has lowered the quantity and raised the prices. People have been scared off of dealing with the stuff.

That's what SWIM has been suspecting... So very, very tragic... in every respect.

[fatal]

thats stupid though... taxing liquid is cheap...

[treefingers49]

SWIM agrees. He knows of an individual that speaks of LSD as a powerful medicine that needs to be spread around the world, but will also rip people off without a second thought.

[radiometer]

He knows of an individual that speaks of LSD as a powerful medicine that needs to be spread around the world, but will also rip people off without a second thought.

So, not so much spread then, as just patched in here and there?