Extraction - First "true" poppy XP!! Tea vs. Pills? Plz Advise!

[insignius]

Ok, a little bit of background here, guys.

A friend of mine has recently messed around with a multitude of things here and there, and found (undeniably) that opiates were definitely his drug of choice. He particularly enjoyed the combination of Promethazine, Codeine, Marijuana, and another stronger opiate (usually hydromorphone or Oxy) -- sometimes infrequently accompanied by a benzodiazepine such as valium or a muscle relaxant such as Carisoprodol (soma).

In a VERY close finish for 2nd, he was into hallucinogens/RCs, and had several memorable experiences with 5-meo-dipt and 5-meo-amt, but was edged out (as of recent times) by the warmth of opioids and as a new member of this site, is determined to get some answers from some folks more knowledgeable than himself.

Herein lies the dilemma.

He is currently on parole and is limited as far as his knowledge of poppies as far as the plant itself is concerned. He is jaded as hell with the doctor scene and wants to get back to more purist roots, and despite a multitude of years experience w. opiate highs, has never experienced anything TRULY naturally stemming from pods or seeds, and wants to lean that way, if it's feasible. He's tested once a month (standard UA) and is especially interested in poppy seed tea -- as an aside, he happens to work in a BAGEL shop, where there are literally 5-10 lb sacks of poppy seeds just lying around, making them virtually free. would they be viable?

this friend of mine has asked me in confidence for advice, so I figured (as a newer member) there could be no better place to come. he hasn't used anything in over a year and half so his tolerance is quite low, and he doesn't know too much about the alkaloids of a poppy as far as their halflife is concerned (like how long they'd stay in your system).

his ideal first experience would come directly after his UA, where he has a whole 30 days to cleanse his system, and not fall prone to some n00b mistakes like he did while incorrectly preparing the San Pedro Cactus. for someone who wants to stray away from pills and do something with a pod or some seeds, what would yall recommend?

thanks in advance, guys. help?

[rlj1974]

SWIM says use the pods to make tea. The seeds SWIY is talking about should be good but SWIM thinks seeds are kind of a waste of time. SWIM has used seeds a few times & started using pods awhile ago & finds that 5 pods are much stronger than 3 pounds of seeds. SWIM thinks you should be clean for a standard UA in about a month.

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exceedingly dangerous doses listed with no disclaimer. Not cool.

[g666d]

^that dose is quite dangerous unless swiy has checked potency with a small amount first, poopy seeds can be effective from as little as 200g, and if swiy dosed himself (esp with no tolerance) with a kg of those there is a good chance he could od. Apart from that, pods are in more ways than one preferable, there is a weird mix of alkaloids in the seeds and sometimes can get a nice high and sometimes feel pretty yuck (but still nice , its strange). Swims last dose he had a kinda epileptic flash from (he has experienced a few epileptic fits before so he knows what is like), just a single jolt but it worried him a little. He personally feels this was from the seeds as he has been hospitalized before from drinking the tea of the wrong kind of poppies, and thinks the toxin is probably present in the good ones, albeit much less concentration.
Also for that last dose he extracted with ethanol, so maybe it was something to do with that.
But if swiy has access to kgs of seeds, he might think about precipitating the morphine out of solution. Swim would
That time he got hospitalized 2 of his friends had the same symptoms, docs said it was because of species of poppy we naively cooked. Never cook the furry ones!

[edit] note that people have died from poppy seed tea OD, think was a teenager and approx 1-1.5kg seeds

[sbt8080]

Originally Posted by g666d

note that people have died from poppy seed tea OD, think was a teenager and approx 1-1.5kg seeds

That kid died from polydrug use; he also had a benzodiazepine in his system, I believe. In fact, all of the reported deaths allegedly caused by poppy tea (that I know of) also involved another drug which the user foolishly combined.

SWIYou still should be very cautious especially as a first-timer, but at the same time, some of these deaths were misreported.

[rlj1974]

Originally Posted by g666d

^that dose is quite dangerous unless swiy has checked potency with a small amount first, poopy seeds can be effective from as little as 200g, and if swiy dosed himself (esp with no tolerance) with a kg of those there is a good chance he could od. Apart from that, pods are in more ways than one preferable, there is a weird mix of alkaloids in the seeds and sometimes can get a nice high and sometimes feel pretty yuck (but still nice , its strange). Swims last dose he had a kinda epileptic flash from (he has experienced a few epileptic fits before so he knows what is like), just a single jolt but it worried him a little. He personally feels this was from the seeds as he has been hospitalized before from drinking the tea of the wrong kind of poppies, and thinks the toxin is probably present in the good ones, albeit much less concentration.
Also for that last dose he extracted with ethanol, so maybe it was something to do with that.
But if swiy has access to kgs of seeds, he might think about precipitating the morphine out of solution. Swim would
That time he got hospitalized 2 of his friends had the same symptoms, docs said it was because of species of poppy we naively cooked. Never cook the furry ones!

[edit] note that people have died from poppy seed tea OD, think was a teenager and approx 1-1.5kg seeds

What species of poppy made SWIY sick?

[g666d]

i'm not actually sure, SWIM was 16yrs old at the time, but i'll look into it, it was on the hospital medical records but i'm not sure he still has them. Give us a day.
They looked like normal poppys except they had very furry stems and quite small heads, thinner not round and fat like somiferum (sp?)

[Akkijee]

SWIM thinks he knows what ones SWIYr talking about. Round these parts, they look like extra large versions of the common corn poppy, Papaver Rhoeas. Not that he's saying that's what they are. Only the furry stems, different shaped pods (although fairly big at least - unlike rhoeas), darker leaves and (round here) red petals, basically make them look like large versions of the corn poppy.

Maybe some kind of hybrid that developed. They still 'bleed' like somnis and they're certainly a poppy of some description, but they're most definitely something else. SWIM reckons its quite likely these things cross fairly easily, as he's seem rhoeas with white and purple petals, the very year after there being a patch of somnis with that colouration nearby.

Well, whether these are the ones or not, SWIM'd like to warn others away from these too, as one of his friends had a very bad experience on them, heart racing, hearing things, insomnia etc. Didn't sound like a whole lot of fun (and didn't sound a whole lot like opium either). But at least he wasn't hospitalised.

Akki

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Good info

[g666d]

Well, swim can't find those records, but after a little searching on net he thinks they were icelandic poppies, Papaver nudicaule

[alaskazagnut]

My friend thinks you should stick to drugs that are legal or hallucinogens with little or no UA test. If SWIY were to test positive for drug use, what would be the consequences? I don't think prison is worth any drug use. Can SWIY wait until they are off of parole to use again? Maybe drug use has directly or indirectly created a legal problem for someone who isn't you in the first place.