Preparation - Help with dealer terminology?

[InTheseBones]

SWIM has a "regular guy" for ket, and a while back SWIM asked if he was about but he said he could only get a gram that "hasn't been cooked up". Got it, and found it to be very crystalized and harder to crush up, not like the usual powder. This stuff hurt the nose more, stung and made your eyes water, but was alot stronger than usual, so was worth it.
Since then SWIM has occasionally got stuff like this off the regular guy and also her back up guy who seems to only serve up the crystalized kind.

Just this week, SWIM's regular guy has stopped serving up, and so has her back up guy, she can still get hold of a gram through the back up guy's friend but its not as easy and a bit hit and miss. SWIM's regular guy has said that he isn't serving up grams anymore, but will be doing "an 8th for xxx". If I'm correct, an 8th is 3.5 grams and the normal price for a gram is xxx (or 2 for xxx), so SWIM would be paying over the odds with this new deal.

Unless silly old SWIM is missing something the dealer is saying when he says "not cooked up". SWIM was under the impression cooking up meant changing liquid ketamine into powder form. And I don't think you can get an 8th of liquid, it would be in ml's. So if the dealer is serving up crystal ket, its obviously been cooked up.. just not crushed up? Or has SWIM missed a part of the cooking up process that would make an 8th worth xxx? Or is the dealer using the term "cooked up" instead of cut with something to increase it?


Obviously the one person who would know the answers to this is the dealer but SWIM doesn't want to look like a numpty asking lots of questions so she thought she'd ask the people in the drugs forum lots of questions instead SWIM did search but couldn't find her answers anywhere in the ketamine forum. Ta in advance everyone x

InTheseBones added 2 Minutes and 53 Seconds later...

Ahh, when I said the dealer said he would so an "8th for xxx" i forgot to mention he said it wouldn't be "cooked up". Kinda the whole point of the post, doens't make sense unless I tell you that :S sorry x

[fiveleggedrat]

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[Lettish]

Swim believes this post isn't about price discussion. SwiITB is asking about terminology and wants some clarification on what "cooked up" means.

An 8th of an ounce is 3.5 grams. Swim does not want to lead this into price discussion but multiply 3.5 by what Swiy usually pays for a gram, and the rest Swiy can figure out whether Swiy is being ripped off or not.

Swim understood that "cooking up" was making liquid ketamine into crystals, so Swim is not sure what Swiy supplier meant when they said "it won't be cooked up" and it still came in crystal form. However, if the crystals are very big Swiy can probably assume it is absolutely fine. Fine powder is often to be questioned as it could be cut with something (not that it would be as ketamine is rather affordable).

Perhaps Swiy should look into getting a small blade to help chop those crystals up, that is if Swiy can't crush them. Take the blade out of a pencil sharpener, for example, and use that (clean it first though, but be careful as they are rather sharp).

[Silentscream]

Alot of people in the UK (in swims experience) are under the misconception that crystalline ketamine needs to be dissolved in water, then the water cooked off again in order for it to be snorted.

All this achieves (in swims opinion) is a slight decrease in potency (Swim believes is due to the normal method of a frying pan over the hob; the heat from which effects the end product), but does leave the ketamine in a satisfyingly easy-to-snort powder form, (more like flour than salt).

The same effect can be achieved with a plate and a credit card, by using the flat face of the card and 'wiping' with pressure over the pile of ketamine, in a circular motion until the ketamine is completely powdered. This takes a few minutes and does not effect the quality of the ket.

[methyl_amigo]

It's not an 8th of an ounce, it's an 8th of a "litre". This means the amount of ketamine disolved in one 8th of a litre.
Generally there are 5mg of K per 1ml, therefore an "8th of K" is 6.25 grams (there are 50 grams in a "litre".)

[rxbandit]

The concentration of K in liquid varies from brand to brand... it is not always a particular gram content to L it varies and with dealers who can just add liquid you can never be to certain. Perhaps he is talking about an eigtht liter, or an 3.5 grams.

Cooked would likely mean cooking the liquid to the powder form. Some of the ket that has been circulating recently that is "crystal" has swirx suspect it has a higher quantity of S-ket. S-ket is less pyschedelic but more dopey, swirx has heard of people redisolving and cooking it to try to isomerize it to the other Racemic ketamine which is normally the more readily formed.

I guess one way for swiy to find out is take the plunge and weigh it or just ask the dealer. ask if its liquid or dry weight. if liquid what concentration.

[Devilsmile]

Basically when you get K as a 'litre' its in crystals like little coarse balls, you mix it with water like 'evian' 1litre... shake it up, then dry it out to evaporate the water... it's a strange process.. why add water in the first place to just evaporate it? but thats the difference between crystall and cooked up K

[rxbandit]

no... Veterinary K comes in liquid for injecting ready for the animals and what not. Different brands have different concentrations of K per mL. Alot of recreational K is vet K and hence originates already in liquid solution.

Recently alot of crystal K has been available, but this is unusual... Pure ketamine would only be put in water to shoot it as ketamines preferred administration is IM shot. K is not always liquid and a litre usual refers to a litre of vet K and again the concentration is different depending on the brand or if the dealer diluted it...

don't trust street pushers to know what they are talking about... they will only confuse swiy in the process.

[pipolito]

SWIM would guess that the dealer meant, by "the k hasn't been cooked up" that if was synthesized illegally, and was not taken from a pharmaceutical vial.