Drug info - Dilute LSD? Or some sort of Research Chemical?

[FinEvitable]

Hi there guys im new to this forum so im going to do my very best not to step on any toes with what i say and i apologise now for the long post!
SWIM bought a bottle of liquid 'cid the other day from a reliable source of RC's.
The bottle SWIM had the 'cid in was a brown dropper bottle with "25" printed on the bottom of the bottle along with "JS" and what appears to be two serpants coiling around each other.
Now this was the first time SWIM took 'cid so SWIM started out with two drops onto the tongue. The liquid was perfectly clear (this confused SWIM as SWIM thought that it was supposed to be slightly brown in colour)
Now after an hour the feeling SWIM had was very familiar, like the spiritual feeling one gets from mushrooms and some of the RC's. Not much happening visualy.
This got SWIM into thinking that the 'cid may have been diluted a lot or maybe the quality had degraded due to improper storage. (SWIM wrapped it in foil after buying it and kept it in the fridge the entire time)
So yesterday after feeling a bit disheartened SWIM decided to take 6 drops on the tongue......and oh boy!
The visual activity was amazing.....the patters were so intricate SWIM couldnt believe his mind was capable of producing them. The 'Rush' was quite intense...SWIM had a distinct metallic taste in his mouth the entire trip and SWIM was coughing (SWIM may be one of the people who gets the 'Coughs') and sweating quite profusely.
The trip lasted about 10 hours strong and only then did the visuals subside enough for SWIM to get some sleep afterwards.
This experiance has left SWIM very confused about 'cid. With the bottle being such a high quality it must show a fair deal of high end production and the '25' and serpants on the bottom show it must be from a pretty competant clandestine laboratory.........but SWIM just thinks that the 'cid should have done more at lower doses.
The seller told SWIM that one drop was one dose.
Can SWIY help me here? SWIM doesnt know if this 'cid is a good quality or not. The trip itself felt very "clean" with none of the realy bad points people associate with blotter 'cid. SWIM cant decide if its pure 'cid thats been diluted to much.
Right sorry to rattle on like this but SWIM really wants to go deeper into 'cid and SWIM wants advice wether this 'cid is worth going back to buy another bottle.

Thanks again

[Samadhi]

This sounds to me like something other than LSD25. The lab cat's are telling me that they have never had a trip that lasted more than 10 hours (dosages up to 900+ micrograms). The metallic taste is an indicator of 5-MeO-AMT, but since swiy did not describe themselves hurling up a street-pizza and lying in agony on a bathroom floor, we will assume it was not so. DOx chemicals are another obvious culprit here, classic signs being a 2 hour come-up and mental/physical stimulation lasting 10-16 hours after dosing in some people.

And even if a good quality LSD25 was diluted too much, the most harm that would come from that is one would have to take more than 2 or 3 drops to achieve a trip.

Use the search engine in the LSD forum and look for clean acid vs dirty acid... there's alot of info on it there. Another test swiy could do is to drop a hit onto black paper and hold it under a blacklight, if it glows, it indicates that it's not a DOx chemical and quite possibly LSD, but then again, a lot of things glow under blacklight aswell.

This topic has been covered before in spread out posts. My personal opinion is that the liquid in the vial is not LSD but something else...

PS. A DH2O LSD solution should never be any color other than clear unless someone purposely died it a different color.

[Songcycle67]

SWIM thinks speculation beyond chemical tests and "true head" tests (i.e. people who have a lot of experience with known LSD) are pointless as shit.

But in good taste, and since you were so cordial, I would think that 5-MeO-AMT would be bitter (although SWIM has never taken AMT before, all reports point to "mediciney, bitterness"--especially at 6 drops), whereas SWIY definitely identified that "electrical, metallic, something-or-other" encountered on higher doses of LSD. feels a bit like an atomic bomb surging its way into one's brain directly through the tongue.

Anyway, also as the poster above pointed out, the come-up and duration does not point to 5-MeO-AMT, either.

All signs to SWIM point to low-dose LSD (probably not a full psychedelic dose). If SWIY is new to the drug, SWIM would suggest trying one hit again, after sufficient time has passed, and overloading SWIY's senses with loud music and lights and see what happens. That should bring out some minor visuals and do some other neat tricks as long as it's not too watered down--but low dose visuals are EXTREMELY different from high dose visuals in SWIM's experience. Tell him to expect nothing and embrace everything.

All of SWIM's trips last at least 12 hours on quality doses, and he says the same is true for just about everyone he knows.



The main problem here, really, is that right now there are lots of compounds being sent out into the recreational drug community without being entered into the literature in any form. So technically it could be almost anything. Especially since it's liquid, however I would think that 6 drops of any known RC would be unbearably bitter.


According to SWIM, SWIY's best bet is to find someone who knows what to expect from it and let them judge.

[Lobsang]

Well it could be anything. Who the hell knows now adays. Where did ethics in drug sales go? I worry about you SWIYs and all these different "molecules". I mean what the hell? Nobody knows what they are going to get anymore. All of this because Jerry Garcia dies and Leonard Pickard gets his ass busted. GEEEEZE!

[Songcycle67]

It's really sad. SWIM thinks the majority of LSD manufacturers are trying their best to put out quality, high-dose product (and lots of swimmers on here seem to be experiencing their efforts). Money, though. People who get their hands on RC's from god-knows-where and god-knows-what know that no one wants to put some untested, loosely labeled gunk with a chemical name longer and more unintelligible than a fucking chaucer tale into their body, and so they just call it "acid."

SWIM really thinks there are lots and lots of people out there who are trying very hard to make sure that if you do get real LSD-25 that it's as clear and strong as possible. So all these new compounds flooding the scene are doing some good.

Dealers with liquid (dilluters) and RC dealers are an LSD-user's worst enemy!