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Insights & Mystical experiences The mystical side of drug use, altered states and psychedelic insights.

 
 
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Old 26-09-2005, 06:15
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How does one explain a "deja vu" experience which was as clear as
normal experience but in a very strange context. As a psychonaut friend
was handing me the free base pipe containing my first DMT pellet and
BEFORE I put it to my lips I was leaped through time and was
REMEMBERING this very strange first DMT journey and was commenting
to myself that it was great but this happened a long time ago and what
are these people, my friends, doing in this place. I almost handed it back
before smoking it and said "thanks, that was great."However, I took it
and took my two draws and was blasted into the 17th dimension beyond
these 4 we normally inhabit and then back in the next 5 minutes.And
then thinking that was as good as the first time which of course was the
exact same event as what I had just experienced, but which had already
been remembered.Sorry for these obscure lines but tricky to describe in
normal temporal context.All quite strange but very clear butthe
actual DMT event was remembered and THEN experienced.Of course,
this was the day after the Telluride Mushroom Festival where I was
hanging with folks like Metzner and Trout.
This year I had just experienced one of my most intense ayahuasca
journeys since, because, the first dose hadn't taken, I was given a second
cup. The entire night was seriously intense, quite enjoyable but
extrememely educational in the plant medicine ways. Since I was
returning the next day to a conference with native American elders,
philosophers, linguists and quantum physicists I asked the plant teacher
how I should present myself back there and her reaction was with her
"tykes" (in McKenna sense of "tykes") was to scrub and shine my face for
at least an hour. Very sweet.
Two days later at this conference I was waiting to say my piece
and thinking intensely about something a native woman had said, when
the person speaking leans over to me and says "thank you, graccus, for
that thought" and proceeds to exactly repeat my thoughts. The most
lucent example of having my mind read I have ever experienced. At the
end of that session I was about to ask her what she had done, how, why,
etc. but snapped, no, that what had just happened had taken place in
some other dimension and that by asking my "left-brained" got to know
questions I would be dragging it "down, back, out of its specialness."I
never did say anything about it to her.Maybe someday, but she lives
800 miles from here.
Comments please.....interesting aspect is the occurence of so-
called "mystical experiences" outside but close (before and then, after) to
DMT experiences.I pretty much insist on pretty clear emotionally and
mentally before doing either ayahuasca or the DMT.Even worked with a
"Jungian/Buddhist" psychotherapist for six months before going to the
Amazon for a serious plant-medicine exploration venture.A fair witness
outside the psychonautic world.
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