Re: Most Euphoric Ethobotanical/the one with the biggest "Rush"
Kratom would be the most obvious substitute.
When Swim was new to kratom the Euphoria was pretty amazing.
Swim would suggest getting some good Kratom leaf from a reputable vendor and either making a tea or toss and washing it on an empty stomach with no other drugs at all as they can often mask the effects.
Stay away from the extracts as they tend to be very hit and miss, apart from Ultra Enhanced Indo which is a very good quality and very strong extract.
Just make sure that Swiy reads up as much as they can on whatever they decide to use, ethnos can be fantastic but they can also have their down sides and Kratom can be quite addictive.
Re: Most Euphoric Ethobotanical/the one with the biggest "Rush"
Here a nice combination :
Smoke a hit of salvia leaf with low dose of standard trichocereus powder (~40 gelcaps) give a violent euphoric rush. Euphoria duration is all the trip duration.
Re: Most Euphoric Ethobotanical/the one with the biggest "Rush"
No one mentioned the most obvious choice of all. If one is looking for an opium substitute get some dried poppy pods. One can even make a crude form of opium from them. Check out the Opium and Poppy forum for more information.
A decent batch of dried poppy pods will likely cost about the same as a decent batch of kratom. Though the kratom would last considerably longer as it is typically much cheaper per dose.
Re: Most Euphoric Ethobotanical/the one with the biggest "Rush"
^^Since price was mentioned, I'd like to point out the outrageous prices online vendors are charging for pods atm. If you can afford it and don't mind (honestly) being ripped off, pods are good. They are the most euphoric ethno., ISO (in swim's opinon). There's no real "rush" though. A rush is obtained from iv or sometimes smoking and that's not really possible or practical with most ethnos.
Re: Most Euphoric Ethobotanical/the one with the biggest "Rush"
Swim is also interested in those plants, she loves this topic btw.
What about ephedra, does anyone has experience with that plant?
Which plant is the best stimulant and easiest to get/grow?
Swim believes coca is dificult to obtain.