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View Poll Results: If you have used any of these *several times* check all that apply
Piracetam 698 62.54%
Aniracetam 406 36.38%
Oxiracetam 247 22.13%
Pramiracetam 239 21.42%
Other racetam 153 13.71%
Choline (bitartrate, malate, any) 631 56.54%
Alpha GPC 321 28.76%
Choline CDP 275 24.64%
DHEA 265 23.75%
Centreophenoxine 119 10.66%
ALCAR 310 27.78%
R-ALA 136 12.19%
L-Theanine 424 37.99%
Vasopressin 74 6.63%
Vinpocetine 358 32.08%
Huperzine 330 29.57%
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

SWIM is a huge proponent of phenibut in moderation. It seems to cure depression instantly and is a great boon for a short flurry of energy and mental agility and acuity. He has been taking doses of 2500mgs. It's not a daily thing, he will caution you on that. Phenibut has the capacity to become physically addictive, so use in moderation. It is great if you just want a bunch of work done though.

SWIM is also a proponent of 5-htp for social anxiety and depression both. 50 mgs a day should help SWIY immensely

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Thanks for the advice, swim just tried 1.5g nearly 2 hours ago and I love it! You're right, Swim has been nothing but positive and happy to talk to people ever since he took it! Definitely going to make this a more occasional thing though, swim is surprised almost that this is not more widely prescribed for anxiety than benzos :S

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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

For the sake of thoroughness, it may be beneficial to note that - as phenibut is indeed habit forming - L-Theanine provides a reasonably effective compliment to phenibut in quenching the occasional thirst for sedation when phenibut or other GABAergics aren't optimal. It has little to no recreational value on it's own, aside from that derived from relaxation, but proffers many of the same benefits characterizing phenibut. Also quite helpful for general WD symptoms from a wide range of substances. Incidentally, when combined with a pinch of cannabis, the effects yield a reasonably recreational body buzz that's more potent than the sum of its contributors.

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For the sake of thoroughness, it may be beneficial to note that - as phenibut is indeed habit forming - L-Theanine provides a reasonably effective compliment to phenibut in quenching the occasional thirst for sedation when phenibut or other GABAergics aren't optimal. It has little to no recreational value on it's own, aside from that derived from relaxation, but proffers many of the same benefits characterizing phenibut. Also quite helpful for general WD symptoms from a wide range of substances. Incidentally, when combined with a pinch of cannabis, the effects yield a reasonably recreational body buzz that's more potent than the sum of its contributors.
Picamillon could probably be added as well, for a nootropic threesome of gaba-affecting-"relaxers".

Picamillon/Phenibut/L-Theanine all carry with them similar proposed effects, and it is common to see at least one of those, on occasion, in the repertoire of a nootropic experimenter. So, if one doesn't see results from Phenibut, there are two others that might be beneficial (or as you mentioned, synergistic).

SWIM has only tried Picamillon, but didn't notice much. It is likely however, that he will be trying phenibut and or l-theanine in the future.

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  • 2400mg lecithin (360mg phosphatidylcholine, 108 mg phosphatidylinositol)
  • 500mg aniracetam
  • 1000mg cod liver oil (contains 210mg Omega 3 oil, 800μg vitamin A, 5μg vitamin D, 10mg vitamin E, 100mg eicosapentaenoic acid, 110mg docosahexaenoic acid)
  • 10-15mg methylphenidate
  • 30mg kavalactones (self-made IPA extract)

Any suggestions? He takes vitamin supplements every so often, but he might make it a daily routine. The methylphenidate is usually taken throughout the day by itself and kavalactones are only occasional, when needed.

He doesn't know very much about supplements or even nootropics for that matter. If anyone can think of anything else to help his Attention Deficit Disorder (inattentive, not hyperactive) and chronic fatigue he'd be most grateful.
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Old 18-06-2010, 17:00
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  • 2400mg lecithin (360mg phosphatidylcholine, 108 mg phosphatidylinositol)
  • 500mg aniracetam
  • 1000mg cod liver oil (contains 210mg Omega 3 oil, 800μg vitamin A, 5μg vitamin D, 10mg vitamin E, 100mg eicosapentaenoic acid, 110mg docosahexaenoic acid)
  • 10-15mg methylphenidate
  • 30mg kavalactones (self-made IPA extract)

Any suggestions? He takes vitamin supplements every so often, but he might make it a daily routine. The methylphenidate is usually taken throughout the day by itself and kavalactones are only occasional, when needed.

He doesn't know very much about supplements or even nootropics for that matter. If anyone can think of anything else to help his Attention Deficit Disorder (inattentive, not hyperactive) and chronic fatigue he'd be most grateful.
Has swiy tried piracetam? For SWIM, piracetam seems slightly more effective than aniracetam, and it is considerably cheaper. The two are synergistic with one another, but SWIM rarely takes aniracetam by itself. He usually doses with 1.2-2.4g piracetam, and on occasion adds 375mg-750mg aniracetam to the mix.

If swiy starts taking additional racetams, he'd need to take additional choline supplements as well, which may prove challenging if he sticks to lechitin. Lechitin is great for smaller doses, but higher doses can be tricky (at least if he's using those greasy, smelly, department/pharmacy brand capsules). SWIM currently uses CDP-Choline, which is a precursor for phosophatidylcholine.

Either way, the thing about ADHD-Inattentive is the lack of motivation to get things done. Nootropics haven't done much in terms of motivation for SWIM (who has also been diagnosed with adhd-i), but when he forces himself to do schoolwork, there have definitely been (albeit subtle) improvements.

That being said, recently SWIM has been experimenting with l-Huperzine, and he is quite impressed with it thus far. In fact, it may challenge my previous statement regarding motivation. On the select days during which he has taken huperzine, those days have definitely been the most satisfactory when it comes to actually getting school work done. Definite improvements in short-term memory, and this fact probably indirectly caused SWIM to be more motivated to start working. Impressive stuff.

Good luck!

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Hey, this is for a good friend of mine. He's 18, and thin (as in close to underweight but still in the average band), and really wants to get his grades up and improve concentration and mental stamina:

- Piracetam 1.6g~3.2g (3.2g was more of an attack dose, and 1.6 will be maintanence taking half in the morning and afternoon)
- Choline Bitartrate 500~1000mg
- Galantamine 4mg (~3x per week) - hasn't started yet
- Deprenyl (1-1.5mg ~3x per week) - hasn't started yet
(thoughts on the two above and also for an additional mood enhancement mainly with deprenyl, also may be taking galantamine sometimes before bed for lucid dreaming affects)
- Vitamin B and C tablets
- Fishoil tablets

And will be taking ritalin or modafinil (not at the same time) on an occasional basis, perhaps every week or two, maybe even three weeks. (depends)

He has been on 3.2g piracetam for the last few days and found himself quite hyper and lost concentration and although his mental stamina has improved, this is not good- so will try lowing to 2.4g today or even lower.

Thanks
wow swim felt it @ 3.2g piracetem. did it happen the first time swim took it ?

regards...

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Has swiy tried piracetam? For SWIM, piracetam seems slightly more effective than aniracetam, and it is considerably cheaper. The two are synergistic with one another, but SWIM rarely takes aniracetam by itself. He usually doses with 1.2-2.4g piracetam, and on occasion adds 375mg-750mg aniracetam to the mix.

If swiy starts taking additional racetams, he'd need to take additional choline supplements as well, which may prove challenging if he sticks to lechitin. Lechitin is great for smaller doses, but higher doses can be tricky (at least if he's using those greasy, smelly, department/pharmacy brand capsules). SWIM currently uses CDP-Choline, which is a precursor for phosophatidylcholine.

Either way, the thing about ADHD-Inattentive is the lack of motivation to get things done. Nootropics haven't done much in terms of motivation for SWIM (who has also been diagnosed with adhd-i), but when he forces himself to do schoolwork, there have definitely been (albeit subtle) improvements.

That being said, recently SWIM has been experimenting with l-Huperzine, and he is quite impressed with it thus far. In fact, it may challenge my previous statement regarding motivation. On the select days during which he has taken huperzine, those days have definitely been the most satisfactory when it comes to actually getting school work done. Definite improvements in short-term memory, and this fact probably indirectly caused SWIM to be more motivated to start working. Impressive stuff.

Good luck!

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He tried piracetam for a while but never noticed any effect. He chose aniracetam for its purported anxiolytic properties, and it's very difficult to find a way to help his anxiety, chronic fatigue, attention difficulties and depersonalisation all at once, because they all have seemingly contradictory indications of depressants, stimulants and whatnot.

Thanks for the help. I will tell him to look into CDP-choline and L-huperzine and perhaps other acetylcholinesterase inhibitors if the latter does not work.

Expect me to report back at some stage!
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Old 22-06-2010, 14:42
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

So after a few months of trial-and-error (with the following substances: Piracetam, Aniracetam, Choline Bitartrate, CDP-Choline, Sulbutiamine, Picamillon, Pyritinol, Methylcobalamine, l-Huperzine and Vinpocetine), here is SWIM's current stack:

1.2g-2.4g Piracetam (2.4 on study days)
250mg/500mg CDP-Choline (depending on piracetam dose)
800mg Sulbutiamine (as needed)
200mg l-Huperzine an hour before a "study session" or test

So, SWIM's stack varies depending on what task is at hand, on any particular day. The substances not included in SWIM's stack have shown to be ineffective for SWIM, thus he will discontinue their use.

SWIM just returned from a Chemistry final exam, and stacked the above regimen in it's entirety beforehand with breakfast. He was quite please with the outcome. Doing calculations seemed easier than normal, for instance, data given in the problems were immediately remembered upon reading, and crunching said numbers into the calculator happened consistently seamlessly, without the need for SWIM to re-skim the questions. Essentially, he was noticeably more focused than usual, and brainfog was non-existent. It is also worth noting that SWIM had smoked a doober of Jack Herer with breakfast as well .

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He doesn't know very much about supplements or even nootropics for that matter. If anyone can think of anything else to help his Attention Deficit Disorder (inattentive, not hyperactive) and chronic fatigue he'd be most grateful.
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Thanks for the help. I will tell him to look into CDP-choline and L-huperzine and perhaps other acetylcholinesterase inhibitors if the latter does not work.
I was gonna say citicoline (CDP choline) but Noodles beat me to it - Alpha GPC isn't as effective as a choline supplement as it is often made out to be in my opinion.

AChE inhibitors provide a general increased level of ACh that is better than the ups and downs of choline precursors, but together they work wonders.

I always interject with centrophenoxine, since it's my favorite, and haven't seen much other reports of its use yet but hope I'm not the only one reading about the benefits of it.
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

I have had good results on the following stacks (please don't try this at home, I have a high tolerance). Also, I have Deprynl, but I am afraid to use it due to false positive on a drug test. I have some Kanna on the way that I can't wait to try. Piracetam seems to potentiate whatever nootropic I take....I love it.

Stack 1
10g piracetam
150 mgs Wellbutrin
1 gPhenibut
400 mgs Bocopa
1 g Acytl-L-Carnatine
2 g Tyrosine
2 g Choline citrate

Stack 2
100 mgs Geranium
200 mgs Caffeine
1.5 g Chocamine
5 g Piracetam
1 g Aniracetam
10 mgs Hydrocortisone

Stack 3
1 g Acytl-L-Carnatine
1 g PLCAR
3 g Choline Citrate
5 g piracetam

Stack 4 (before Sleep)
400 mgs Bocopa
3 mcg melatonin
2 g phenibut
ZMA
1.5g Valerian Root

Stack 4 (sexy time!)
2 g Panax
7.5 mgs Yohimbine
500 mgs Cnidium
1.5 g Vitex
5 g Piracetam

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150 mgs Wellbutrin
400 mgs Bocopa

Stack 2
100 mgs Geranium
200 mgs Caffeine
1.5 g Chocamine
10 mgs Hydrocortisone

Stack 3
1 g PLCAR

Stack 4 (before Sleep)
400 mgs Bocopa
ZMA

Stack 4 (sexy time!)
500 mgs Cnidium
1.5 g Vitex
Interesting; a handful of under-discussed substances in this list. If you've the time, a discussion of the utility of each would be greatly appreciated (personally, I'm most interested in those I've bolded). I've noticed the inclusion of ZMA, Bocopa, Vitex, and Cnidium; are these geared towards an exercise stack of any specific kind (anabolism) - or is there another goal in mind?

If strapped for time, please compare PLCAR to ALCAR - as well as the rationale behind ingesting Hydrocortisone (especially if anabolism is a goal, as this would be counterproductive). I'm also quite interested in the efficiency and side-effects of Vitex.

In the chimp's experience, kanna was hit-or-miss. Likely a function of the oral samples ingested, but he hasn't touched the stuff despite availability.

In the future, please note that this forum prohibits admitting to the ingestion of any compound - regardless of the legality in your area - to avoid legal issues that might face you, as well as the forum. In other words, it's against the rules to admit to eating drugs 'round these parts - legal or otherwise.
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

Hi guys, this is swim's first post here and he thought he would post about a subject that interests him a lot at the moment.

Swim is a 65kg male who has had bouts of depression and currently suffers from anxiety. I would say swim's anxiety is massive, it pretty much consumes his life but at the same time it is mild... heh... What I mean is this. Swim doesn't actually get huge panic attacks, He can go out and do things, But its just a constant drain that affects him mentally and keeps him at home and away from work.

Swim has tried ssri's and finds them to work slightly but at way to much of a cost. Swim say's he feel's strange on them, It helps anxiety, But it doesn't make him open up or provide him motivation.

So, Swim decided that playing around with serotonin, especially in the butchers cleaver way that ssri's work seemed to be a dead-end and looked at nootropics as a possible way to improve his life.

Here is swim's current daily stack:

1 multi-v x 2
fish oil 3g x 2
choline 600mg x 2
piracetam 600mg x 2

s-adenosyl-methionine (sam-e) 400mg
Selegiline 5mg
adrafinil 300mg
hydergine fas 4.5mg

iron 5mg
calcium ascorbate 100mg
zinc chelate 125mg
manganese chelate 20mg
vitamin b1, b2, b3, b5, b6, b12

And these as needed or cycled:
macuna pruriens 600mg
Phenethylamine 100mg
Phenibut 1800mg

Results:

Swim's depression is none existent. Swim has much more energy and motivation and finds social situations rewarding again. Swim feels that 3 years of social anxiety will take time to disappear but only as it has become a way of life. Pretty much all of his symptoms are gone and his brain is working much better.

If anyone has any questions/statements about the stack or in general please feel free to reply.

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Adrafinil could only exacerbate the anxiety present, I would suggest removing that from the regime if possible.

Which SSRI did he try, for how long? Has the depression always been prevalent?

3 years of anxiety? Was there a cause for its onset? It doesn't sound like its 'massive' if there are no instances of panic attacks only general anxiety - maybe the term Generalized Anxiety Disorder may apply here.
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swims stack is:
100 mg 5-HTP
100 mg L-Theanine
400 mg SAM e
2 grams fish oil/flax seed oil
500 mg valerian & 2.5 sublingual melatonin for sleep

tried taking other things for sleep besides valerian and melatonin, such as gaba, skullcap, kava, etc with little to no result.

dont know if this is the right thread as everyone is discussing different chems than swim, but does anyone have any experience with SAM e + 5-HTP? it seems to be working well for swim.

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and to the primax,

were you ever on anxiety meds? how is the phenibut working for your anxiety and how high is your current anxiety level? and the SAM e swim noticed you take, any feedback on that?

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A friend of mine eats well and takes a multivitamin in the morning; but he is wondering if this is a good combination of nootropics and supplements for his regime to help with studying, memory, and focus in college:

2-3(as needed) 800 mg caps of Piracetam
1 750 mg cap of Aniracetam
1 10 mg cap of Vinpocetine
2 1200mg caps of Lecithin
1 300 mg cap of Alpha GPC
1 50 mg cap of 5-HTP
1 100 mcg cap of L-Huperzine A
1 500 mg cap of L-Tyrosine
1 500 mg cap of L-Carnitine
1 100 mg cap of L-Theanine
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

Hey, SWIM needs some advise on his stack:
Multivitamins (high strength) - daily
Gingko Biloba extract (40 mg) - daily
Piracetam (800 - 2400 mg) - only when needed, e.g. before writing an essay or attending a class. Though, SWIM used to take it daily for about 4 months.
Melatonin (0.1 - 0.5 mg) - about 3 times a week before going to bed.

Well, as you can see SWIM's stack is rather basic. The thing is, SWIM has to work 3-4 nights a week and the rest of his time is spent studying... SWIM finds it quite hard to stay focused and he's often motivated yet he can't force himself to study because of feeling exhausted in a way. Furthermore, SWIM often feels 'not in a mood', so to speak. Anyway, what should be added to the stack in order to keep SWIM's focus, motivation and mood at the top level?
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

I like to keep it simple. 2x 1200mg Piracetam +1ml Hydergin in the morning, and I am set for the day. I eat a couple of cod oil capsules every other day or so, to preserve my actylocholine, It works miracles for me

Why wasnt Hydergine inclyded in the poll? Has it fallen out favor suddenly? A 102 year old Dr with sparks in his eyes, cant be wrong.
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dont know if this is the right thread as everyone is discussing different chems than swim, but does anyone have any experience with SAM e + 5-HTP? it seems to be working well for swim.
No experience with SAMe here, out of curiosity, was it added at the same time as 5-HTP? Are they much less effective each on their own?

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A friend of mine eats well and takes a multivitamin in the morning; but he is wondering if this is a good combination of nootropics and supplements for his regime to help with studying, memory, and focus in college:
Looks good to me, but one thing I should mention more often, is cycling. It seems like people have a nootropic regime that they follow daily but it's a good idea to cycle in day on/off or week on/off I think. This allows for re-regulation of the bodies natural, baseline levels in everything from enzyme activity to neurotransmitter levels and back again.

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Hey, SWIM needs some advise on his stack:
Multivitamins (high strength) - daily
Gingko Biloba extract (40 mg) - daily
Piracetam (800 - 2400 mg) - only when needed, e.g. before writing an essay or attending a class. Though, SWIM used to take it daily for about 4 months.
Melatonin (0.1 - 0.5 mg) - about 3 times a week before going to bed.

Well, as you can see SWIM's stack is rather basic. The thing is, SWIM has to work 3-4 nights a week and the rest of his time is spent studying... SWIM finds it quite hard to stay focused and he's often motivated yet he can't force himself to study because of feeling exhausted in a way. Furthermore, SWIM often feels 'not in a mood', so to speak. Anyway, what should be added to the stack in order to keep SWIM's focus, motivation and mood at the top level?
I recall a study where Piracetam helped with verbal reasoning (or something of that nature) but not a different learning task. And, the improvement was only significant after one week of daily use. This is one nootropic that could be cycled on/off for 2-4 weeks at a time.

In a little neurons experience Phenibut worked well to help him get a solid 6 hours of sleep and then the rebound came just in time for him to wake up. So: it helped him fall asleep, and it helped him wake up. It's only useful on certain occasions because tolerance seems to build quickly, but it might be worth a shot.

For regulation of mood, 5-HTP is a safe addiction.

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I like to keep it simple. 2x 1200mg Piracetam +1ml Hydergin in the morning, and I am set for the day. I eat a couple of cod oil capsules every other day or so, to preserve my actylocholine, It works miracles for me

Why wasnt Hydergine inclyded in the poll? Has it fallen out favor suddenly? A 102 year old Dr with sparks in his eyes, cant be wrong.
Because I overlooked it. Lol. I could add it but the people that have voted wouldn't be able to do so; would inaccurately display the proportion of people who have used it.
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

Neuro - The effects of SAMe and 5-htp dont seem to potentiate each other when taken together, but they do work somewhat synergistically. Both being mood stabilizers they are similar but different in mechanism of action as well as effect.

If someone didnt like the effect of one or the other, it wouldnt diminish their effects to be taken alone rather than separate.

Swim cant take his SAMe these days, as it gives him too much energy at times. Anyone who is lethargic or lacks focus and drive should look into it immediately. Its actually prescribed by a decent number of doctors even though its OTC, in some parts of europe its only available by prescription.

Phenibut is swims primary source of interest here. He takes a regular benzo but supplements it at times with kava kava.

How does phenibut compare to kava? Or to a benzo? Swims wondering if its worth looking into...he has a decent benzo tolerance and weak GABA agonists like L-Theanine just dont do anything for him sadly.
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Lethargic definitely describes one little neuron I know, I think he will look into SAMe for sure.

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How does phenibut compare to kava? Or to a benzo? Swims wondering if its worth looking into...he has a decent benzo tolerance and weak GABA agonists like L-Theanine just dont do anything for him sadly.
Great question, for which I opened up this thread : Anxiolytic / Nootropic comparison: Phenibut, Benzodiazepine, Kava kava
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

Hey, so this mysterious owl that lives in a tree just outside my window was wondering whether it's safe to combine the following:

300-600 mg Adrafinil
800-3200mg Piracetam
Multivitamin (1 pill)
Ginko Biloba (1-2 pills)
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

The swan swimming in the river in front of my flat has this at his disposal, and is wondering how to use/combine what he got in the most effective way.

Piracetam 800mg
Aniracetam 750mg
Methylphenidate HCI 10mg
Modafinil 200mg
Ginkgo Biloba 60mg
Pure fish oil caps-Omega 3
DMAE
L-Phenylalanine
Choline Bitartrate
Vitamin B complex (B1, B2, Niacin, B6, Folic Acid, B12, Pantothenic Acid)
Multivitamins (A, B, C, D, E, Minerals, Calcium, Chromium, Magnesium, etc)
Caffeine pills 200mg

As background info this swan has been diagnosed with adult add of the inattentive type, and needs to be focused 24/7 because he's studying a graduate course in a 'world-class' university.

He told me, he'll be grateful for your useful comments/advise on how to get the best out of each item of his stack.
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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

I can;t tell you how much I enjoy reading this thread. This insect really recommends nootropics to anyone. Here is his usual stack:

Piracetam 4-6G throughout the day
B-vit complex
Caffiene 200mg
acetyl l caritine 500mg
soy lecithin 800mg
algal DHA 450mg
ginko biloba 120mg
lots of ginsing throughout the day!

Any feedback is appreciated.

Question - by taking a busload of pills everyday, does that have any effect of the quality of ones stomach lining? Personally, this insect takes antacids before his stacks, but one would think stomach bleeding or ulcers could be a problem in the future for nootropic users.

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Re: The Nootropic Stack thread - help / critique / advice with Your stack

Would like to get some input on Bruno's stack..


Piracetam 2-4g daily
Gotu Kola (currently not taking it but will again soon) 1-2x daily
Ashwaganda 1-2x daily
Scullcap as needed daily and before bed
Melatonin
Omega-3/Fish Oil caps as needed
Kava Kava 3x daily
L-Glutamine
Acetyl L-Carnitine (could use some advice on the best times to take this and whether or not to take it with or without food)

Other than that, its a multivitamin, Niacin (off and on.. Bruno smokes handrolled unfiltered cigs as well so they tend to alternate depending on whether or not Bruno feels like smoking less that day.. the niacin makes Bruno feel better, the smoking is kind of a crutch for when Bruno goes and feel anxious and the smoking instinct kicks in), Zinc, bcomplex, and Saw Palmetto.

Thoughts?

Bruno's thinking about switching to a different racetam, perhaps aniracetam. Would also like to add some sort of stimulant perhaps 4-fa.

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