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Old 11-05-2010, 18:13
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HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

SWIM is on probation, this is most recent heroin use

used thurs-fri-sat night, about .2g each time
used monday night, .2 g

test is thursday at 11:30 AM
is SWIM good? will drinking lots of water now help SWIM flush out the stuff? will diluting sample help? please help, freaking out.
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Old 11-05-2010, 18:59
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

Heroin generally leaves the body within 3-5 days. So swiy has a chance. Also, as swiy is young, his metabolism will be faster than an older individual,-however, even amongst young people rates of metabolism vary.

Swim's advice if swiy is unable to 'fake' the test, would be to drink lots of water, do lots of excercise, eat lots of fruit and veg, as these all help flush things out of the body.

Swim has never had someone actually watch him while he does the test. While he can't recommend it himself, he knows alot of people who fake clean samples buy getting, 'clean' piss from a clean friend, and then keeping it somewhere warm,-taped in a bag to inner thigh for example, who then simply open the bag in the cubicle and put the other person's warm piss in the tube.
Swim also knows of people who have been watched but simply claimed to be bladder-shy and managed to get a different test,-e.g. blood, which inevitably takes a few more days/weeks to be authorised.

It depends what situation swiy's test is in, and what risks they're willing to take. But swiy does have a chance of it turning up negative-just live the healthy healthy life for a few days. And pray.


Good luck, swim hates urine tests, in his mind, they're a complete violation of privacy and make him feel almost sub-human. Imagine how your average power-hungry cop would feel being forced to piss into a little tube for testing......

EDIT:Some sources say that heroin leaves the body between 2-4/5 days after last use, in contrast to what swim was told by his keyworker.......just goes to show how much variation there can be, so don't lose hope, get excercising etc!

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Old 11-05-2010, 19:46
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

swim thinks its so F"ed to have to take drug tests and the worst part is that hard drugs can be out of your system in a matter of days while marijuana takes a whole month to pass out of your system

swim tokes daily and will never pass a drug test in his life
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Old 11-05-2010, 19:48
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

yeah, they do watch swim :[

it's fucking humiliating.

swim isn't even on probation for a drug charge, is the fucked up part. swim knows she can submit a really dilute sample and get away with it though. just so freaking nervous :[
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Old 11-05-2010, 20:19
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

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yeah, they do watch swim :[

it's fucking humiliating.

swim isn't even on probation for a drug charge, is the fucked up part. swim knows she can submit a really dilute sample and get away with it though. just so freaking nervous :[
Swim genuinely can't piss with someone watching him, no matter how hard he tries, (unless he's pissed, then he'll wizz anywhere).......and this is something both men and women can 'suffer' from. So swim would recommend going for the bladder-shy option.
I.e.-trying ur hardest, pushing etc, but after 10 minutes just not being able to do it and breaking down telling them you just can't go i front of people.
Then they'll either reschedule for another type of test, or leave swiy alone to get some clean piss in the tube/pot.

Swim knows of a man who was supervised, but used the clean piss taped to the inner thigh method, and simply pricked the bag quickly while the guy wasn't looking, (as they tend not to stare directly at your genitals...), and then simply handed over the tube, and all was well.

But swim doesn't know how it goes with supervised urine tests for women in the US, so he'd advise the bladdershy option. At the very least it will buy swiy some time, just be sure to look genuinely embarrassed about disclosing it!

But as swim says, even if swiy decides against that, provided they try and go healthy for the next few days with lots of water, there IS a chance they might be able to make it clean. Just depends......what's at stake? prison time etc?
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Old 11-05-2010, 20:24
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

no, she watches like a hawk, and swim is not sure how screwed swim'd be if swim failed, but getting caught tampering is a felony, so swim would be REALLY screwed and isn't willing to risk that.

i talked to a bunch of people who said swim should be fine. submitting a dilute sample should help swim's case. will drinking lots of water over the next few days help? i know that doing it for THC is useless but is heroin water soluble?
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Old 11-05-2010, 21:02
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

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no, she watches like a hawk, and swim is not sure how screwed swim'd be if swim failed, but getting caught tampering is a felony, so swim would be REALLY screwed and isn't willing to risk that.

i talked to a bunch of people who said swim should be fine. submitting a dilute sample should help swim's case. will drinking lots of water over the next few days help? i know that doing it for THC is useless but is heroin water soluble?
Yeah swim would definetly say don't risk it if a)they watch you like a hawk, and b) you'll get in even more trouble for trying to fake it than just failing it.
From all of swim's personal experience and knowledge as a tested heroin-addict himself, he would say that eating LOTS of fresh fruit and vegetables, drinking LOTS of water, and excercising to the point of properly sweating/being out of breath, all help to clean the system of opiates.
This is swim's personal experience, but he has managed to pass urine tests for heroin with just under 72hrs clean under his belt by simply 'goin healthy'..........despite having used daily for months before then.....but again, while both swim and swiy are young, we still have differing rates of metabolism, so there can be no guartantees. But do drink lots of water no matter what, the more you piss the better!

However, if swim isn't willing to give the bladder-shy option a go, (or even if she is), then all swim can recommend is what he has already-food which runs through the system, fruit and veg, lots of water to empty out ones system, and excercise.

If they say your piss is remarkably dilute, swim would simply say, 'well yeah, as a way of trying to stay clean i've been doing alot of excercise-natural endorphins!'
But honestly, if swim was watched like a hawk while taking a piss test, he could literally be threatened with having his cock cut off, but he still wouldn't be able to piss,-so bladder-shy is an area to look at, that really could buy swiy sometime.

Swiy's a tricky one, because, she's by no means a definite fail if she goes healthy the next few days, yet at the same time, she's still by no means a definite pass. Hence why swim would recommend bladder-shy option-it's not a felony, it's a genuine psychological condition, and they can't punish swiy for that!
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Old 13-05-2010, 14:44
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

What about if you missed the vein and injected heroin into a muscle? Does it take longer to clear your system for a urine test?
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Old 14-05-2010, 14:16
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What about if you missed the vein and injected heroin into a muscle? Does it take longer to clear your system for a urine test?
Interesting question, swim remembers being told by his keyworker that both IV heroin and smoked heroin remain detectable in the system for the same period of time, but as for SC.........just don't know.

Logically one would think seeing as it's entering swiy's bloodstream much more slwoly than IV that it might be detectable for longer, but then smoking heroin also takes longer to get get the full dose into swiy's system........so it's a hard one to call I'm afraid.
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

swim heard putting some bleach in it makes it pass. is this true? and if so how much to mix?
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Old 18-05-2010, 05:27
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Re: HELP! drug test thursdays, nervous

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swim heard putting some bleach in it makes it pass. is this true? and if so how much to mix?

While this may work and cause a false negative but it is also very easily detectable.

"Urine adulterants: Nearly all urine adulterants can easily be detected. Ammonia, Draino, and other bases will change the pH which is easily tested for. Oxidants, such as bleach, hydrogen peroxide, and many products sold as urine adulterants, are required by law to be tested for in the USA and are likely tested for elsewhere. Visine does not work; it used to work on old EMIT tests, but it's easily detectable."

Anyone with questions in this thread can probably benefit from the "Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide" Thread.


http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...drug+tests#top

Also, swim hopes everything worked out alright at the test last thursday swi-meowwwww. Hopefully she's able to log on and let us know

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