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Old 08-11-2009, 23:49
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JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

MOD EDIT: eyeballing of any drug is risky at best, and eyeballing a dose of a drug active in the low mg range is downright dangerous. While not likely lethal with JWH compounds, serious negative effects can occur. Overdoses are not pretty, and can be terrifying to those involved. and their have been increasing media reports of hospitilizations due to overdoses. This is increasingly putting the chemical under scrutiny which will lead to bans. If swiy is going to use these chemicals, they have a responsibility to themselves and others to do so safely. Buy a .001g scale, learn how to properly use it/care for it, and use it for every dose. (end mod edit)

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Please note this thread is for information use only.

This post doesn't in anyway suggest users should guess doses of JWH-018 by sight. Whenever possible, please use a 0.001g scale and weigh a correct mg dose for your own safety. A small misjudgement when eyeballing JWH-018 could easily end in an overdose as SWIM will later describe.


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Although my account's rep has taken a knock for this thread, I still find this information to be important to those who are taking it on themselves and guessing doses of JWH-018 by sight against anyone else's advise (SWIM's included). A few reports on erowid say they eyeballed their dose, and I have also read a many times on this forum that users are eyeballing hits as their standard practice. This information was not posted to encourage or advise anyone against using a scale and weighing a correct dose but to show SWIMs personal choice and how he does it instead. SWIM and I would always prefer a user to use a 0.001g scale, but if they were going to dose by sight then we would prefer them have as much information as possible instead of turning the cold shoulder and just saying that they shouldn't do it.






Anyway, here is the information SWIM had told me:


After smoking pure JWH-018 for a couple of weeks, SWIM was yet to weigh a correct dose and instead always eyeballed his powder before taking. He knew that this was potentially quite dangerous and would never advise others do it when dosing their JWH-018, but at the same time; he knows that others are dosing in this manner and so he feels it's important to share some information, how he does it and how much he takes when eyeballing.



He wants to share this information because when he first tried smoking pure JWH-018 he didn't really have a clue on how much to take (other than as smaller amount as possible just to be on the safe side). He new the chemical was active in only one or two milligram measurements, but having never worked with measurements of that size he didn't know what it would look like. He had found a few posts on this forum, erowid and a few other websites about how much to take, but these reports were often inconsistent and varied from "a few grains of salt" to "a little pinch"; both of which could be perceived very differently by readers.



SWIM used a small '3mm head' screwdriver to measure his dose, but a sharp knife could also be used.

For his first hit SWIM took a tiny, tiny amount.

SWIM put the powder on top of a little honeyblend and smoked carefully to avoid burning the JWH-018 and vapourise it instead. Within 5 minutes SWIM felt a little buzz, but nothing for long.

After about 20 minutes SWIM felt nothing at all, so decided to take another hit. He measured the same amount again (or as close as he could by eye) only this time SWIM spread the mix straight onto the pipe's gauze and then topped it with the honeyblend. SWIM thought this might help vapourise the powder instead of burn it and since then this is always the way SWIM smokes 018, it works perfectly without the need for tinfoil or messing with a vaporiser that's red hot after each use .

Over the next 2-3 days SWIM felt a little braver with the powder and was then smoking hits that were around 10 times the size of the first two in order to get a considerable high (but SWIM still doesn't know how much he was smoking as he's never weighed a dose). SWIM continued to smoke doses of the same size today (weeks on) as his tolerance hadn't risen since the first few days of use. (SWIM would like to hear if anyone else has had a quick tolerance build over the first few days of use but then it seemed to level off?).

The standard dose for SWIM would be around 2mm cubed. This can be achieved by poking a knife or screwdriver a few millimetres into the powder and then lifting with a slight scooping motion. It normally takes SWIM two or three goes to get the correct amount on the tip of his screwdriver, but can always see how much he's got once he spreads it over a pipe screen. Once spread completely flat (the thickness of paper) a normal dose will be around 7mm by 7mm (filling the centre of a small pipe screen / gauze)

One thing SWIM would like to note is that before taking the JWH-018 from his glass vial to his pipe with a screwdriver he would always shakes the powder gently. He would do this until the 018 is 'light' and doesn't stick to itself as much as it does after being left still for a few hours. SWIM would also never scrap the edges of the vial to eyeball a dose as these two actions help eliminate scooping up compressed powder as it's hard to judge how much SWIY is taking when its compact.

The only time SWIM has had a negative result after eyeballing a dose was when he was in a bit of a rush and wasn't thinking. He would normally smoke 2-3 bowls of around 4-6mg at night, but he would smoke it over a few hours. This night, SWIM had gotten in late but still wanted to get nicely stoned before bed, so he purposefully took a larger dose than he had before.

The hit was around 2-3 times the size of a normal one (maybe heading up to around 10-15mg). He smoked it and almost instantly felt very intensely high. It felt like a pressure inside SWIM's head and down his spine. It was strange, because it was a very strong high which felt enjoyable at times, but at the most of the time SWIM feared it because of this mad intensity.

SWIM had tripped out before years ago after smoking around a gram of pure kief in a single hit, and knew that panicking and fighting the high was useless, so he just calmly got into bed and slept it off. He can't remember dreaming anything that night, it was just 'instant sleep-wake' sleep if you know what I mean. In the morning SWIM felt a little all over the place, he found it hard to work and concentrate on anything much.


Last note.
Again; this post isn't to suggest in anyway that it's safe to judge a dose of JWH-018 by sight, but instead to get important information about the method used by someone I know.

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Incredibly foolish behaviour. What exactly is the point of posting this thread if not as a guide for others to indulge in this foolishness?
Extremely helpful, could save a lot of people from very unpleasant experiences.
Regardless of how stupid whatever behavior may be, this is at least good advice for people who are going to do what may be "stupid" anyway.
Despite dangers of eyeballing doses, this thread does bring up important discussion on the matter.

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Old 09-11-2009, 00:07
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

Eyeballing JWH-018 is immensely stupid, as you can not assess the difference between a recreative dose of a few milligrams and an overdose.

Either buy a scale or do not do this.

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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

SWIM has a proper 0.001g scale and still finds it slightly difficult to weight out specifically small milligram amounts 100% accurately.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

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Eyeballing JWH-018 is immensely stupid, as you can not assess the difference between a recreative dose of a few milligrams and an overdose.

Either buy a scale or do not do this.
I apologise. My post was not to encourage others to do the same as SWIM, but to share information that he sees to be important as there are a lot of users which are already eyeballing dose, but without any reference on what they are looking for. As taboo as this information may be, SWIM felt it was still important information which should be known if someone was going to try eyeballing JWH-018. If you feel this thread is dangerous and suggests eyeballing doses then please delete or close this thread as that wasn't what I intended nor what I want.

I only wanted to give information to those who are taking it on themselves to guess a dose by sight.

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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

SWIM appreciates this thread very much as SWIM has been eyeballing his doses for over two months now with only one negative experience when SWIM was caught off guard. In SWIMS opinion if SWIY has an extensive history with using small amount of powdered drugs such as methamphetamine SWIY shouldn't have a problem eyeballing.. that may sound very irresponsible to some but SWIM has been very successful in not dying from eyeballing any drug or RC .

what SWIM did was start off with a few grains at first and eventually ended up eyeballing what he would call 'mini bumps' back when SWIM was obsessed with meth. it has proven to be very successful and def saves SWIM some money because he doesn't need to buy a scale, however SWIM believes one should ALWAYS use a scale when messing with RC's because it really is the safest way to go. SWIMS point is it isnt hard to safely eyeball small amounts of this chem. SWIM thinks some SWIMMERS on this site blow eyeballing way out of proportion, at the same time SWIM understands the importance of harm reduction and that this chem can cause severe paranoia in some so getting a scale is really ideal.

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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

SWIM has been thinking about the potency of JWH and dangers of over dosege (eyeballing with no scales), Swim remembers his old mentors black and red was always cut before being distributed for the safety of swimmers that just like to keep tearing up the tube. So SWIM thinks this must be a problem that alot of swimmers must come across, Swim himself has been trying to think of a way to cut 018 so it can be vaporized much safer, Of course this would have to be done properly as swiys would not want dangerous hot spots throughout the product. SWIM is new to JWH and hasnt heard many Ideas of this kind though. Also swim is in no way a true chemist. Any Ideas?
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

SWIM has a scale but would rather eyeball doses with a knife. It can be hit or miss with eyeballing; it can be done but if you are careless it can go very wrong. One time SWIM was being careless and eyeballed what was left in a baggy to be sufficient and could not get it all out with the knife so SWIM proceeded to scrape and shake the rest out onto a bowl of herb as it was stuck inside the bag. SWIM ended up with what looked like a snow cone frosted bowl of herb. SWIM knew at this point this is careless but then negated it with his inflated ego and previous usage. SWIM recommends others keep themselves in check if they see this in themselves. It was hard to tell how much it was but smoking 15mg before has not been a problem for SWIM and this amount sent SWIM into a fast building panic attack thought loop that was much to intense--SWIM notes this stuff can be verrry strong. So this intense anxiety ridden thought loop instantly made him aware that a valium was very much in need. SWIM is thankful the valiums were on hand is all SWIM can say and SWIM is being more careful now. Once the valum took hold SWIM was able to examine the situation more carefully and it made it possible to enjoy being blitzed off of the JWH again. So hopefully now SWIM won't be repeating this first experience of what has been dubbed "the fear". SWIM has vaped but dislikes the preparation and waiting and is considering oral but is bent on his old habits of knifing doses and smoking them on bowls. SWIM is attached to his knife; however, contemplating safer methods. Perhaps SWIM will learn his lesson soon or after one more case of "the fear" without valiums to save his arse.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

I can understand the nature of the OPs post which I wholeheartedly respect, however having this thread on D-F could most certainly, influence more and more people to eyeball their doses, rather than buying a mg scale.

If anyone can afford to buy JWH-018 (however cheap it is ) then you can buy an mg scale!!!!
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

^^ Thing is, you cant weight a proper dose of JWH-018 with a 0.001g scale, you need one that reads in micrograms I guess.
SWIM has a cheap ebay scale but he still eyeballs his 018, after 6 months of use he found a visual dose that works (though he had to suffer a couple of anxiety filled OD´s to get there)
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^^ Thing is, you cant weight a proper dose of JWH-018 with a 0.001g scale, you need one that reads in micrograms I guess.
SWIM has a cheap ebay scale but he still eyeballs his 018, after 6 months of use he found a visual dose that works (though he had to suffer a couple of anxiety filled OD´s to get there)
Hmm, then SWIM would expect someone buying it to be prepared and equipped for this sort of thing. Then again, SWIM is being a hypocrite almost as SWIM himself does not yet have a scale . But SWIM will probably standardise the JWH018 on some leaf, SWIM is too scared to eyeball a dose.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

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Eyeballing JWH-018 is immensely stupid, as you can not assess the difference between a recreative dose of a few milligrams and an overdose.

Either buy a scale or do not do this.
Over a gram and 200-300 doses later SWIM is yet to have another overdose. So the fact you're saying "you can not assess the difference" is quite simply, wrong. SWIM has done hundreds of times, fact. Neither I nor SWIM are saying it's safe to eyeball doses, but to say it's completely unsafe to do so isn't correct either.

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If anyone can afford to buy JWH-018 (however cheap it is ) then you can buy an mg scale!!!!
Thing is.. a mg scale isn't good enough. SWIM's used them in the past and because they are only accurate to the mg, you could easily place 5mg down when you only want 3-4. If you want a correct dose to be bang on 3mg say.. you'd need a 0.0001g lab scale which can go up into the thousands of dollars. A mg scale just doesn't cut if it you honestly believe one or two mg extra in a dose will to major harm to a user.





I still advise anyone reading this to use a scale when taking JWH-018. I just want people to know that as long as you're respectful of the very potent drug.. eyeballing will not strike you down with a major overdose or death.

Take care of your body and be safe all :].






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Old 20-12-2009, 18:10
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Over a gram and 200-300 doses later SWIM is yet to have another overdose. So the fact you're saying "you can not assess the difference" is quite simply, wrong.
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SWIM has done hundreds of times, fact.
This is an argument that is frequently used. Same with people using mephedrone without getting side effects. They dont experience side effects and have taken mephedrone many times, so there are no side effects for them. The logic is not correct. It proves nothing.
If I blindfold myself and run around on a major highway, I might also get away without a scratch. I might do this several times without problems. Does this prove anything about the safety of the action?

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Neither I nor SWIM are saying it's safe to eyeball doses, but to say it's completely unsafe to do so isn't correct either.
Bad Reaction to unknown dose of JWH-018

This is not the first time this has happened. It was happening ten years ago and has been happening ever since. People will eyeball milligram doses and end up experiencing an overdose.

Years ago I could understand the rational argument of not being able to pay for a scale that costs a fortune, but now scales are cheap as can be. If a person can pay for a research chemical then why on earth not pay for a cheap scale? This just doesnt make sense to me at all.
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Old 20-12-2009, 18:50
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

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Years ago I could understand the rational argument of not being able to pay for a scale that costs a fortune, but now scales are cheap as can be. If a person can pay for a research chemical then why on earth not pay for a cheap scale? This just doesnt make sense to me at all.
In SWIM's opinion that's never been a rational argument. The first investment for anyone intending to 'work with' research chemicals should be in appropriate scales and volumetric equipment. No chemist starts up their lab by purchasing only chemicals, then decides to improvise because they've run out of money for hardware. Even if the ideal microbalance was out of SWIM's price range then a lower accuracy balance combined with volumetric measurement of larger batches of RCs is better than nothing.

RCs are not toys and have to be dosed accurately. Too many people have had adverse reactions and worse as a result of not taking due care. The safety window is not well established for most RCs, but tends to be narrow (including for JWH-018) - far too narrow to be guessing, which is effectively what eyeballing a low milligram dose amounts to.

I appreciate SWIacer's viewpoint that some people simply won't invest in a scale and that this is therefore harm reduction. However SWIM actually sees it as being dangerously inaccurate and therefore inappropriate to promote as an alternative to careful measurement with appropriate equipment.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

This thread, opposed to what many people assume, has encouraged SWIV to NOT eyeball a dose. SWIV didn't realize the potential dangers inherent in JHW-018 or the ease of overdose associated with the chemical. After reading this, SWIV will probably find himself saving up the money to get a mg scale after all...thanks for the advice.

SWIV also never realized how cheap these scales actually are. Forget eyeballing, SWIV'll weigh the dose from here on out!

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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

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If I blindfold myself and run around on a major highway, I might also get away without a scratch. I might do this several times without problems. Does this prove anything about the safety of the action?
Chances of getting hit by a car while blindfolded and running around on a major highway - probably around 99+%.

SWIM's personal experience with eyeballing JWH-018 which resulted in overdose - less than 0.4%.

Pretty stupid comparison to make a point.

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Bad Reaction to unknown dose of JWH-018

This is not the first time this has happened. It was happening ten years ago and has been happening ever since. People will eyeball milligram doses and end up experiencing an overdose.
And really.. that sounded a lot more like a negative reaction to the drug and not the dose. I've never heard of anyone having similar recations even in cases where over 30mg was smoked in a few minutes.
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Chances of getting hit by a car while blindfolded and running around on a major highway - probably around 99+%.

SWIM's personal experience with eyeballing JWH-018 which resulted in overdose - less than 0.4%.

Pretty stupid comparison to make a point.
The 99% is based on nothing at all. You have no clue on what happens on the highway, just like you have dont know the JWH-018 dose the dose. Well, with the above TEK you do have some clue about the dose, so to correct that difference in the comparison, you could compare that to using your hearing on the highway.

The comparison between the two situations is that both are dealing with a dangerous and potential deadly situation. More about that below.

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And really.. that sounded a lot more like a negative reaction to the drug and not the dose. I've never heard of anyone having similar recations even in cases where over 30mg was smoked in a few minutes.
Its a CNS depressant. What else do you need to know to confirm that an overdose is trouble??

That experience is just the most recent overdose experience posted here. You will be able to find some more.

Please answer me this: Depress the CNS enough and what do you think happens?

Read the JWH-018 ADME study on rat tox if you dont know.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

Wouldn't one be safer with just disolving the jwh in a solvent and then applying it to a plant material?
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

Yes- such a user would be substantially safer.

Here is a thread for infusing a solution of JWH-018 into small, smokable squares of rolling paper.

Use the search engine to find similar threads regarding the infusion of JWH-018 into various flowers, leaves, or otherwise infusible plant materials.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

SWIM already has a tray of material drying at his window :]. As easy is a pure dose is, he would much prefer snap a bud up and hit a bong.
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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

I know this is an old thread,but I'm glad I found it. SWIM was about to order some JWH-18,but owns no scale. He is now going to order a scale instead and wait on the JWH. is an 0.01g scale ok or is 10mg to high of a dose? Can't decide on a good starting dose from the plethora of different information i've read. SWIM wants to make sure he stays safe in his endeavors,his reckless use of mind altering substances are in the past!

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Re: JWH-018 - Information on 'eyeballing' a dose. [pictures]

a .001 scale would be preferred. a scale with .01 readability will not be accurate at that level. (ie. 10mg may weigh considerably more)
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