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When smoking"O" it should be vaporized so if you don't have a "O" pipe then a piece of foil is good as is the lightbulb vaporizer.Joints,ciggs laced with "O" in SWIMS oppinion are a waste as the morphine is wasted due to the direct flame.
Originally Posted by frankz81
when smoking or vapourising the opium, should it be dried first?
In SWIM's oppinion the "O" should be completely dried prior to smoking.
Originally Posted by frankz81
how many times a day can the be scored to leak out the opium? and over what period?
SWIM waits 24 hrs before the next scoring.Pods can be scored until no more juice comes out.SWIY should also wait the 24hrs so that the plant has time to recover and produce more "O".SWIM finds juice let out by pods scored before 24hrs after the last scoring to be MUCH weaker and produce a milder effect.
Originally Posted by frankz81
should the stems be discarded or ground down along with the pods?
hayran, anatoliada oturiyor musun? cok afyon türkiye var mi? ben antalyada oturdum, ama ben hic bir afyon görmiyorum..
ama cok turist var antalyada
Ben Egede oturuyorum, Afyon diye bir ilçe var egede biliyorsun belki, dünyanın en kalite afyonları orda yetişir, benim oturduğum şehirde afyona yakın, burada 70-75 yaşındaki dedlerde afyon yeme alışkanlığı çok yaygındır.Annemin köyünde Afyon bitkisi yetişir.
If you are going to smoke opium, you should go ahead and purchase an authentic opium pipe.
Online searches will yield sources. Searches can be Chinese opium pipe damper bowl. Swim bought a couple Hmong, Jungle Culture Opium pipes for $30 each and they were complete. One was actually loaded with dross. Vietnam era.
Chasing the dragon, rolling in joints and burning opium in other pipes does not get you the high you are looking for. You want the refined high, not the heavy morphine high.
Swim has learned how soften his hard, black, opium balls by holding over a coconut oil opium light to pinch off a very small piece. It is then speared on a needle and heated so it is soft and plunged into the opening on the pipe bowl. I don't think I need to go on.
Swim scrapes the dross from his dampers and saves it. Rolled into a joint, this is some heavy shit.
You don't know how high you are untill someone else shows up and you have to talk. Do not drive a car or operate machinery. Just sit and chill.
Last edited by Alfa; 01-02-2009 at 16:30.
Reason: leaving forum
Crazy Grim Platonic Lover said to me: Smoking opium with chinese opium pipes is hard.Because you must nonstop light opium with lamb.But if you take hookah coal e.t.c. on opium You musn't nonstop light opium.that's why Eaisiest way of smoking opium is mine.
Crazy Grim Platonic Lover Said to me again:Sorry, I've poor english.
oboy is right, get an opium pipe, that's the best way to go. a little elaboration on the technique: first, light a candle. then, skewer a little chunk of opium(called the pill) the size of a match head - maybe a little bigger - on the end of a needle or stretched-out paper clip, and hold it a few inches over the flame, and as it heats up and softens, use your fingers to roll it into a cone-like shape, but don't hold it too close or for too long, or it might burn to a crism right off the needle. then, stick the needle into the top of the little hole on the opium pipe bowl, until you get the pill smeared over the bowl, with a little hole in the middle for air flow. recline and turn the pipe sideways, then hold the bowl a couple inches over the flame (closer than when you were rolling it) until it starts to melt and vaporize. when it does, suck really hard, with all your lungpower, on the pipe, take as big a hit as you can, and hold it in for 10 to 30 seconds, then blow it out. as you inhale, use the needle to keep the pill well-formed on the bowl, since it will liquify and run if it isn't controlled with the needle. if there's any resin left in the bowl that cools off and hardens, you can scrape that off and repeat the process again to re-smoke it several more times, although each time it goes through the pipe, it loses some of its alkaloid content.
Sourcing an authentic Chinese Opium Lamp is worth the trouble, according to Swim.
The glass dome chimney directs the heat upward in a concentrated shaft. Finding just the proper point at which to heat the opium is easy and direct. After a few times anyone can catch on. It's not rocket science but is science and properly done it produces the desired results.
The Chinese perfected the art of opium enjoyment to a high degree. The Chinese traditionally used coconut oil as their vegetable oil of choice for it's burning temperature. Alcohol lamps burn too hot. Coconut oil has the proper combustion temperature, hot enough to properly boil the O, but not hot enough to burn it too quickly.
Swim decided to get coconut oil for his lamp. You must get fractionated coconut oil. You can get pure fractionated coconut oil. It is liquid and clear at room temperature and will "wick" up a small lamp wick to produce the needed flame.
O smoking is really fun with the traditional Chinese equipment. Done properly, the O just makes a hollow pulsing sound as it is drawn into the chamber of the ceramic damper. As it enters the damper the heavier morphine laden parts condense inside the damper. What you get then is the better part of the O without the heavier body feeling.
It's wise to only have one hit if you are a rank beginner.
Last edited by Alfa; 01-02-2009 at 16:31.
Reason: leaving forum
The joint idea isnt so great in my opinion. Also u wana avoid direct flame it apparantly kills the alkaloids. The Chinese knew how to do it they did it for hundreds of years. So a traditional opium pipe is best. u can also try using a meth pipe or hot knives. Also... DONT USE WATER FILTRATION!!!... All the good stuff is water-soluble!
Opium smoked in a joint is waste. The direct heat destroys the active alkaloids before they have the chance to vaporize.
Smoking Opium in a hookah is a waste. If one stops to toke the vaporization continues and is wasted into the atmosphere. If the Hookah contains water (as some do) then the strength is also reduced.
Smoking Opium through a traditional Opium pipe is good. It produces little waste. The only down side to it is that it can be hard to get the hang of right away for some and they can be a bitch to clean.
Smoking Opium through a glass meth pipe . . . .
Is the best and most efficient way. The opium is not exposed to direct heat and can be vaporized almost completely. All one has to do is place the opium into the glass globe. The vapors are trapped so no waste is produced. Cleaning the dross is quite easy with denture cleaner and small plastic pick.
All in all Opium in a Meth pipe is the easiest and most idiot proof method that anyone can do.
A lot of the methods described here all cause the opium to be burned or scorched, which isn't what you want. At least not in my experience. The best way to "smoke" opium is by heating it lightly in an enclosed bowl, like a meth pipe. Although burning the opium works okay, and it will give you a fine buzz, but heating it gradually in a pipe designed for vaporizing/free-basing is best for opium.
As many of you probably have seen, opium pipes from Chinese antiquity have a large bowl with a hollow chamber that has a tiny hole (probably between 1mm and 3mm wide depending on the bowl). Those bowls allow hot air to be drawn into the chamber where you put your prepared opium. Putting the opium in direct contact with an open flame is not what you want.
SWIM liked the idea that Bongermann had with the spoon. Its been a while since SWIM smoked opium because its been a while since the last harvest, but when SWIM does, SWIM has a few special pipes that SWIM made from bamboo. Bamboo was frequently chosen by the Chinese because it "cures" after its been smoked out of for a while, and will last virtually forever. One has a bowl that swim made out of a little light bulb (about 50% smaller than your standard bulb) and the other I made from clay that I fired myself. While clay-firing is something that takes a bit of skill, making a simple opium pipe from a piece of bamboo and a light bulb isn't that hard.
Almost all the habitual opium smokers in the world cook or heat their opium before they smoke it. They stick it on a long needle and twirl it above a heat source, which is usually a specifically-made lamp (usually for the folks of 'higher' society) or a candle (used more often by commoners and peasants). This cooking is performed right before the opium is going to be smoked, and is not the same kind of cooking that is used to make raw opium ready for smoking. The opium is cooked/heated a final time before the user smokes it. Cooking makes the stuff smoke much better and reduces waste.
So, thats SWIM's take on opium smoking. This is from SWIM smoking opium for a few "seasons" now and reading tons of literature.
SWIM is wondering if it is alright to put a small amount of opium in a regular metal pipe used for smoking weed and just heat the bottom of the metal up instead of direct heat. Or is the direct heat ok?
swim was curious as to your experiances on how long does one find they are actually lighting the op/pipe (pref a glass meth pipe as that is what swims pitbull uses)
swim finds its pup is often holding the lighter (often uses a jet/windproof lighter) for at least 10 seconds or more before ANY smoke is startking to appear and build up..
r others finding this to be the same time span..10 secs may nto seem like a long time in words but when lighting something to smoke this is a long time to get an effect..
swim is finding it aufully hard to smoke the op as it seems to take so long and when one does get it burn/smoke, it doesnt seem to produce much..at least not like when smoking that dirty bitch tina..
swim was also curious if using the jet/windproof lighters produce too much heat and degrade the goodies while smoking, but often finds that a regular lighter either takes longer, or often takes too long and gets so hot that the metal piece melts, breaking the lighter..swim has also found little to no effect using a candle..
has swims pup did something wrong in the creation of its CFO that is creating this burning problem?
but overall, how long does one find they are physiclly holding the flame to pipe to get something smokeable to appear in the pipe?
pref from users using a butane lighter with a meth pipe as this is closer to the pups scenerio..
swim would suggest that you not hold it till smoke starts coming. but keep the lighter on till it begins to boil off. smoking of any substance in a glass pipe is not good...
remember it is not the smoke that you want but the vapour and while some vapours are coloured (or just white) alot of them are clear.
try heating till boiling and inhaling rather than waiting for smoke.
SWIM has always gotten some long skinny metal object, like an unfolded paperclip or a safety pin, then stuck the ball of opium on it. Put a straw in SWIY's mouth after that. Then light it, and as it starts heating up inhale the smoke and fumes through the straw. Don't put the flame directly on it like with marijuana. Put the flame barely under it to where it is almost touching but isn't. It will still beging fuming and smoking even without the flame touching... This method always works for SWIM...
You guys have it all wrong. Opium smoking is MORE then putting goo into a pipe. I present the following pictures for your study, Take notes of the common motif's of luxury, decadence, sexual libation.
See not one of you mentioned the importance of an opium stonned accordian player, I mean how can a person TRULY enjoy opium without one?
It's important to share one's hobbies with their loved ones.
After the funeral of a beloved colleague. One must always be aware of the forces of injustice.
The kit is of vast importance, it shows others "Only the finest for me." No man of distinction would be caught dead with out a portable opium pipe kit on them. What's this talk of tin foil and light bulbs? Savages!
Remember, the opium smoker is going to have to look at something close by for a very long time, make sure to keep it interesting.
Not that other smokers might not be pleasing to the eye!
Then again, maybe not!
If for some reason you're images of "how to smoke opium" differ wildly from the above images, you may need to consult your local library for more thorough education on the proper ways to smoke opium.
good stuff. i'd seen, the German ? Austrian ? students and their pipes before, and the caption mentioning opium smoking, but I do have some doubts as to what might be smoked in such a contraption.
seems more like fancy a tobacco pipe to me, even though one is lying down.
Swim uses a hash oil pipe, perhaps its the same as a meth pipe, swim would not know, swim never smoked meth.
But most local head shops sell oil pipes. Its a small clear pyrex tube with a glass bowl attached, and the glass bowl has a small hole in it. Swim has one about 5 inches long.
swim puts a small amount into the glass bowl with a pin, sometimes he even leaves the pin sticking out with the stuff stuck on the tip sitting in the bowl, swim heats the bowl with a lighter, its does get black with soot, swim listens and watches as it slowly starts to boil and bubble, swim very slowly draws in the vapors, keeing the lighter coming and going from the bowl to keep it just hot enough to keep the stuff boiling and bubbling and giving off vapors. But not to hot as to burn, and not too cool so its stops vaporizing.
Swim has noticed that unlike cannabis products, opium takes a little longer to feel, and for swim about 20 minutes after smoking (vaporizing) he feels full effect. Swim feels cannabis as soon as he breaths out a toke!
Like old photos, swim also likes to be horizontal while enjoying the opium high!
Swim would like to know if there is something that can be done about the black soot from butane lighters, that builds up on the outside of the bowl?
Swim wipes it off before each lite, but its a hassle? Any answers?
The trick is to match the heat and toke rate so as to draw in the vapors slowly, but not get stuff to hot, but just hot enough!
This being my first official post, I'd like to start by saying that I get a kick out of SWIyou all. it reminds me of a story told to me by SWIM from when he was in Prison and he used to say "Allegedly" to refer to his crimes so no one could actually accuse him.
Now, let me tell you, SWIM read this thread first in the time before I got an account here, and he recommended it highly. Before reading this thread, SWIM used to put balls of Opium in a Bowl with some weed, and called it a "Hay Stack." He had heard rumors about vaporizing and so after reading this thread he tried it. SWIM tells me that this is the best Opium Experience he has ever had.