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Old 30-12-2007, 22:42
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Re: Injecting THC

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but that's exactly what I think it makes it more interesting how about THC pills?... heh..
*cough* magic pill society *cough*
g00gle with coconut oil - there's a great recipe out there

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Old 31-12-2007, 20:46
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Re: Injecting THC

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But it killed the dogs and monkeys. Some research in 1971 tried to find out the LD50 for THC:
That's a great response!
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Re: Injecting THC

Eating it gives you a 200% high over smoking it....Smurf could only imagine what the high would be if some chemist found a injectable THC.

Smurf would imagine one of the more potent analogues(THC-V(the strongest, 500X the strength of THC),THC-IV, THC-VI and whatever else) would bring on the same effects.

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dont think swim could smoke that....its too beautiful.
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it IS beautiful. thanks for the positve input.
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Old 20-01-2008, 10:56
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what artard gave me neg rep for that comment. fuckin dumbasses.
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Old 20-01-2008, 13:44
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Re: Injecting THC

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I have to disagree with the answer given. When swib was a teen , his older brother would have this powder called " T " tetra hydra cannabinol ( thc ) this was a drug that I saw him and his friends do quite often , usually they would do lines of it up the nose, but I know that it was banged on occasion. I didn't do any thing like that at that time in my life , so I can't comment on it from a personal experience , just I know what I saw and heard them tell me . Anybody out there remember this drug. Surely there are some who will speak up and straighten this out .

“T” or THC. After the initial media down on PCP, it was sold largely in the homosexual community as THC to avoid the unfavorable possibility that it might be demon dust. Everybody knew what it was in their hearts, but went ahead anyway. The name is dated now because, as almost everybody knows, THC can only be suspended in an oil-based medium.

http://www.timothywyllie.com/PCP.htm
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Old 30-01-2008, 20:12
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Re: Injecting THC

alcohol is oil based?

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dont think swim could smoke that....its too beautiful.

this phenomena is why SWAN sometimes has serious trouble when thinning time comes.
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Old 27-08-2009, 10:23
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Re: Injecting THC

There was a BBC special on medical marijuana where a patient was injected with both pure thc and thc plus cannabinoids. she said the pure thc was awful, but with the other cannabinoids in the mix as well, it was great. no idea how they extracted it though. If anyone is still interested, I can find the link to it.
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Old 27-08-2009, 11:29
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Re: Injecting THC

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There was a BBC special on medical marijuana where a patient was injected with both pure thc and thc plus cannabinoids. she said the pure thc was awful, but with the other cannabinoids in the mix as well, it was great. no idea how they extracted it though. If anyone is still interested, I can find the link to it.
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swim has heard of people scratching themselves with pins with pure THC on the end of them, was told worked, but in actuality swim fucking doubtful. How is something insoluble meant to traverse the blood stream? swim supposes THC must do that going from lungs to brain, but imagines this is because has been atomized(molecularized?) when combusted/evaporated; if it stayed in blood stream indefinitely then would clump together again. Lucky brain eats it before that can happen.
So, if someone thought of a way to inject a constant molecular stream of THC into veins, then would be good? Maybe really small (thin) needle?

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Old 27-08-2009, 13:32
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Re: Injecting THC

SWIM has heard many cases where pure THC has led to very undesirable results, even suicide (mostly but not completely sure if other drugs were involved)

SWIM feels it is necessary to include all of the active cannabinoids in a drug, not just THC.
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Old 27-08-2009, 13:45
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Re: Injecting THC

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SWIM has heard many cases where pure THC has led to very undesirable results, even suicide (mostly but not completely sure if other drugs were involved)

SWIM feels it is necessary to include all of the active cannabinoids in a drug, not just THC.
Swim has heard this also, and it rings true to him. Explains why such a variety in highs depending on source of bud. Also, JWH-018, supposedly synthetic THC, doesn't have exactly same effects as bud and (don't quote me here) i think if you use twice the effective dose (ie instead of 2mg you take 4mg) you get psychosis instead of stoned.

Is a bitch, if one was trying to purify the essence of a drug. But injectable THC would still be
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Old 27-08-2009, 16:05
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Re: Injecting THC

Really now? Suicide? Can we see some proof?
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Old 27-08-2009, 17:44
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Re: Injecting THC

SWIM has no solid proof, but SWIM would find it hard to provide solid proof that drugs get SWIY high.

SWIM has been told of an odd case where two people who used a lot of budder climbed onto a certain roof and tied plastic bags around thier heads. At different times. One died. The other claimed that this world was not real and the only way to see the real world was to die that way.

When SWIM hears of the oh so controversial 'schizophrenia and suicidal tendencies' claim. He is reminded how smoking a heck of a lot of Sativa used to make him quite paranoid and some times psychotic. SWIM found it hard to understand who he was and would feel as though he could not associate himself with who he was sometimes.

SWIM believes that there are a certain amount of people who have the possibility of becoming schitzophrenic and THC can only be the push over the edge, but SWIM believes that everyone is capable of suicide, and
high doses of THC with no CBD etc to regulate? it may well push people towards suicide.

"Higher doses of 9-THC can induce frank hallucinations, delusions, and paranoid feelings. Thinking becomes confused and disorganized; depersonalisation and altered time sense are accentuated. Anxiety reaching panic proportion may replace euphoria"
Extract from Goodman & Gilman, 1991.
(SWIM believes this is a fairly sound statement, albeit outdated.)

SWIM is not saying that THC definitely causes suicide in high doses, but he is fairly certain that it can.
CBD also has anti-epileptic properties, and other valuable effects. SWIM thinks it should be included.

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Old 28-08-2009, 02:14
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Re: Injecting THC

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.....it may well push people towards suicide....

"Higher doses of 9-THC can induce frank hallucinations, delusions, and paranoid feelings. Thinking becomes confused and disorganized; depersonalisation and altered time sense are accentuated. Anxiety reaching panic proportion may replace euphoria"
It would be easily possible for a person to have a panic attacks on THC, or on strong cannabis for that matter. There are cases with the JWH compounds discussed on DF. But "confused and disorganized; depersonalisation and altered time sense are accentuated" sounds like being stoned!

There don't seem to be any links between this and suicide...

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Old 28-08-2009, 10:06
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Re: Injecting THC

Like SWIM said; he has no solid evidence. It is simply something he has heard.

SWIM doesn't believe it completely but he thinks it is definitely something to be very cautious of. SWIM imagines there may well be good evidence one day if people take up injecting THC.
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Old 31-08-2009, 05:18
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Re: Injecting THC

In my opinion if smoking doesnt it do it anymore your obviously doin it wrong, Try a vaporizor, maybe edibles or find better quality bud. Cause Injecting doesn't sound like the way to go...but that's just my thoughts.
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Old 31-08-2009, 21:29
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Re: Injecting THC

i don't smoke weed, only SWIM does.

and who wed that IV has anything to do with it not working anymore.

fyi tho, tolerance is not a matter of better bud if u already have good bud but sometimes it Can be a matter of switching to a different strain throughout the day.
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Re: Injecting THC

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i wish. if the pic is good enough, i will steal it and that one is worth looking at, huh?

If you did, your boogers would look like this:

swim knows this is an old ass post, but damn, that amber trich is staring at me.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:22
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Re: Injecting THC

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Old 19-10-2009, 11:55
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Re: Injecting THC

It is possible, but it is extremely dangerous as microbial contamination has to be really looked out. Valium is available as injection, however being insoluble in water, the preparation is made as emulsion, which microbes can grow in if not made and stored properly.

Emulsion is like milk. It allows lipid soluble matter to remain in aqueous solution without separating.

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Old 24-11-2009, 16:50
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Re: Injecting THC

Check out THC-O-phosphate. It's a water soluble version of THC. I have no knowledge on how it's made though.
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Re: Injecting THC

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It is possible, but it is extremely dangerous as microbial contamination has to be really looked out. Valium is available as injection, however being insoluble in water, the preparation is made as emulsion, which microbes can grow in if not made and stored properly.

Emulsion is like milk. It allows lipid soluble matter to remain in aqueous solution without separating.
Very interesting information. SWIM recently had a discussion with someone 'round these parts where he pointed out that non-water soluble substances couldn't be injected, and was initially agreed with out of logic, then refuted with an example [maybe even valium] that was not water soluble yet was still avaliable in injectable form, but no reasoning as to how that was accomplished

so are all non-water soluble injectable preperations emulsions?
What are they emulsified in?
What effects does that have on BBB crossing and/or absorbtion?

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Re: Injecting THC

Nabitan is another water soluble analogue of THC. I don't think you will be able to inject delta-9-THC without getting an embolism. You'll have to synthesize a water soluble analogue to inject it. These analogues could probably be snorted if you really wanted to.
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Re: Injecting THC

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There was a BBC special on medical marijuana where a patient was injected with both pure thc and thc plus cannabinoids. she said the pure thc was awful, but with the other cannabinoids in the mix as well, it was great. no idea how they extracted it though. If anyone is still interested, I can find the link to it.
SWIM saw this, it came about the same time as the UK government started banging on about 'skunk', which is said to have much higher THC content than 'normal' weed (whatever the hell that may be). The subject was apparently injected with a high content THC solution and then basically had a panic attack.
Personally SWIM believes this was just propaganda trying to show that this 'skunk' will 'blow kids minds', therefore keeping any unknowledgable public in the governments hands.

EDIT: Also, said subject had only used cannabis on a couple of occasions before, in Amsterdam, which was also documented.

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Re: Injecting THC

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Very interesting information. SWIM recently had a discussion with someone 'round these parts where he pointed out that non-water soluble substances couldn't be injected, and was initially agreed with out of logic, then refuted with an example [maybe even valium] that was not water soluble yet was still avaliable in injectable form, but no reasoning as to how that was accomplished

so are all non-water soluble injectable preperations emulsions?
What are they emulsified in?
What effects does that have on BBB crossing and/or absorbtion?

SWIM does not know. It is a Roche brand injection and the exact preparation is probably trade secret. SWIM does remember specifically reading that emulsion preparation is susceptible to spoilage just like milk and that it must be refrigerated. Pharmaceutical companies have access to production equipment and have a great deal of control over sterility.

Home cooks do not. Not even with canning food. Biological safety is a serious matter. Many people become ill with home canned food due to inadequate sterilization.

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