Experiences - Ritalin (methyl phenidate) + alcohol

[Stimulants]

SWIM had 20mg of methyl phenidate with 56g EtOH (about 4 x 12oz beer) and friend of SWIM told him he was acting very drunk,but in a peculiar way.

Do SWIYers have any expierience in this combination?

[lineartransform]

Yes, it turns you into an idiot. Effectively you "feel" less drunk than you really are. Imagine you think you're about 5 beers into it when really you've drank 8... then extrapolate that as the night goes on.

It's not that you're different, it's just that your self-evaluation goes straight to hell... you think you're sober enough to do something when really you're not at all.

[Stimulants]

Originally Posted by lineartransform

Yes, it turns you into an idiot. Effectively you "feel" less drunk than you really are. Imagine you think you're about 5 beers into it when really you've drank 8... then extrapolate that as the night goes on.

It's not that you're different, it's just that your self-evaluation goes straight to hell... you think you're sober enough to do something when really you're not at all.

In this particular case, SWIM BYOB'd and his supply was limited to what he had, four beers, therefore this couldn't have happened.

[lineartransform]

Originally Posted by Stimulants

In this particular case, SWIM BYOB'd and his supply was limited to what he had, four beers, therefore this couldn't have happened.

Of course it happened, your friends even told you so. You got far more drunk off 4 beers than you usually would.

[Stimulants]

Originally Posted by lineartransform

Of course it happened, your friends even told you so. You got far more drunk off 4 beers than you usually would.

SWIM meant that he couldn't have consumed more alcohol than he thinks he did, because SWIM only had so much alcohol.

[lineartransform]

Originally Posted by Stimulants

SWIM meant that he couldn't have consumed more alcohol than he thinks he did, because SWIM only had so much alcohol.

You're missing my point. What I'm saying is that the effects of alcohol will be magnified relative to the number of drinks you've had.

It's not that you drink more alcohol than you think, it's that the alcohol you drink affects you to a greater degree.

Do you get this?

[Leet]

Methylphenidate is a stimulant drug so naturally the depressant effects of alcohol will be much more benign. Ritalin among many other pharmaceutical stimulants are used in combination with alcohol by many users. The dangerous thing about combining the two drugs is you may not realize, or you may underestimate the amount of alcohol consumed, and you may continue drinking until the point of alcohol poisoning.

[Dr. Satan]

Swiy shouldn't forget either, that the alcohol consumption with medicines or drugs prolongs their effects, for the following reason: the alcohol facilitates the toxicity of drugs and medicines. So, metabolized drugs stay longer in the liver, what can damage considerably this vital and complex organ. This combination must be avoided as much as possible.
And like that was already said, the drug masks the effects of the alcohol, thus the drunkenness can arise brutally after the effects of drug.

[This is bat country]

What, no one has mentioned the hepatosynthesis of ethylphenidate yet?

SWIM says:

Ethylphenidate is synthesized hepatically (read: by the liver) when alcohol and methylphenidate are consumed together (orally), and is more potent than both. I've been doing it all night and I'm fine, but I am cutting myself off very soon. I hope you avoid all ER Ritalin forms or you will be awake for the hangover from hell. It's also rough on one's body. Be wise, and stick to SWIYs 20mg MPH.

[A Mad Tea Party]

SWIM has found this to be an amazing combination, due to the fact that (like the combination of amphetamine and alcohol) it makes for a far more coherant and physically 'grounded' feeling of intoxication, while still retaining the outgoing and reckless nature of alcohol. It also allows SWIM to relax and mellow out somewhat while enjoying the euphoric rush from the Ritalin. Stimulants and alcohol have become a favorite of SWIM's.