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Old 04-11-2009, 06:53
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Re: Other ingridients in legal smoking mixes

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I googled "Cocamide DEA" - 2nd & 3rd results are articles about it being linked to cancer. Google "Cocamide + cancer" and ger more results .
If the people selling these mixtures actually cared about the users they'd list the ingredients. Regardless of who or what they try to blame it's a choice they've made and it puts needless risk and profit first.

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Old 10-11-2009, 07:26
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Re: Other ingridients in legal smoking mixes

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That's the unfortunate thing about these blends. You don't know what's in them. We don't know if TWU actually contains Cocamide DEA or if they just listed the ingredient to throw the authorities off. If it does contain the said ingredient, then I don't understand why it would be necessary to put such a thing in a smoke blend. Oh wait, "Not For Human Consumption"
You obviously got a point at doubting the components listed, as all of herbal smokes don't have cannabioids listed. But then, because of stealthy tactics of producer companies many SWIYs were able to enjoy herbal mixes for so long. So, your point is, since they are hiding something, and we can't just run some quick tests at home after we buy a herbal blend product, we can't be sure if the listed components are actually there and if all of them are listed. But hey, you can't be sure about components of your food also, for the exactly same reasons, and there are far more scary stories about hidden components in food all across the world then there are in herbal mixes. In fact, there are currently only 3 (of those I know), beside obvious cannabioids, and they are what I try to discuss in this thread.

So yeah, while your point about not trusting the listed components is true, it doesn't add anything to the subject of this thread, as I'm interested in how exactly some other compounds, that are not cannabioids, might enchance the trip, if they even can. And if someone would post any data showing that Cocamide is adding to the kick, then it would be obvious it is added, while if there would be proof of it being irrelevent to the state of high it would be obvious that it is listed to shake off unwanted attention.

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I googled "Cocamide DEA" - 2nd & 3rd results are articles about it being linked to cancer. Google "Cocamide + cancer" and get more results. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency lists it as "likely to be carcinogenic to humans"
Also, Its on the Environmental Canada Domestic Substance List, and has been shown to cause tumors in animals, according to RTECS.
And how is this related to the subject of my post or any of the major questions I wrote in bold? I googled "milk + cancer" instead

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If the people selling these mixtures actually cared about the users they'd list the ingredients. Regardless of who or what they try to blame it's a choice they've made and it puts needless risk and profit first.
How come you are so sure that people making herbal blends care less about users then those that sell us poor quality food/medicine/cosmetics/tobacco/alchohol/etc that contain all sorts of chemicals that are very bad for our helth, which on many occasions leads to serious health problems, including death. And there are thousands every year, that suffer only from pharmaceutical affairs... I bet you can look up this grim statistic over google with no problem yourself. The main point is - humans are greedy, and when the greed meets certain degree of possibility for nice income, many humans would choose to poison innocent people only to get the big buck for themselves, regardless of product or service. But there are always some companies that understand that reputation is a better and safer way to make money, so they make quality products and rarely try to screw with their customers. But is there realy a good way to find out who's currently screwing you?

So, you too said nothing relevant to the subject of this thread.

All of my questions still stand, and I'm beginning to wonder if anyone would be able to help me out here.
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Old 10-11-2009, 14:36
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Re: Other ingridients in legal smoking mixes

After all the research done swim thinks that no herbal components adds kick to the cannabinoid agonist...

Swiy should search on cannabinoid agonist mixes (several in a single blend) rather than herbal potency !
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