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Old 18-05-2009, 16:59
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Gbl mixed results

hi,
my uncles pet rabbit decided to try gbl, he searched this wonderful forum for info and found Mr G's level headed advice invaluable. 1st time he tried it 1.5ml it had little to no effect but after some further reading realised this was probably due to it being the 1st time and that a full meal had just been consumed before hand, he continued topping up but the desired effect wasn't reached.
next day the rabbit decided to try again on an empty stomach and upped the dose to 1.75ml as he's a 6'4 and 196 lbs, this did the trick and he was nicely bolloxed.
the following day he took 2ml on an empty stomach and had little to no effect and today took 2.2ml and felt the effects but not getting as high as 1.75 day. from reading i see that gbl doesn't really suffer from tollerance build up and regardless he isn't taking it long enough for this to be a problem anyway.
the rabbit asked if i could find out is he doing something wrong or is he just expecting too much from the substance or does he need to take more as he's quite a big fellow?
any assisance in this matter would be greatly apperciated
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Old 18-05-2009, 19:50
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Re: Gbl mixed results

Swim is about swiy's weight. If swim has eaten (especially a large meal) recently, gbl has much less of an immediate effect. This has resulted in swim taking a bit too much in an attempt to reach the desired intoxication and him "resting his eyes" then waking up three hours later. On an empty stomach, however he finds a dose of 2.5ml to be perfect, and he redoses 1ml every hour or so that he plans on partying. THIS IS TOO HIGH OF A DOSE FOR MOST PEOPLE, HOWEVER, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

Swim loves taking a bunch of G then going out to a club and dancing like an idiot.

Edit: Actually it's probably a good idea to have a very light meal before consuming gbl as swim has experienced slight stomach discomfort when taken on an empty stomach. This problem can also be avoided by diluting the gbl in a substantial amount of water before ingestion.

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Re: Gbl mixed results

cool, thanks for swiy's advice
much appreciated
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Re: Gbl mixed results

Indeed, the stomach content could have played some role in rabbit's weak response to GBL, however, Dexter supposes it would predominantly affect the come up time, not the intensity of inebriation itself.

There is other likely culprit too, i.e. the levels lactamase enzymes responsible for a conversion of GBL to GHB in vivo. Those levels vary between individuals - if there is little of them, initial response to GBL will be weaker than expected. However, after a few ingestions their endogenous production increases and so the response to GBL does. Therefore beware of doing GBL in not favourable settings (i.e. in public) for a first few times - out of the blue your pet may be hit by a much more intense inebriation than expected, go down and wake up in emergency!

There is one more thing worth exploring in case of GHB inebriation, i.e. the role of the set & setting in a quality of it. Alf found out it really changes the experience considerably: there is a huge difference between doing G alone at home and doing it in a nice company.

Runitsthepolice is absolutely right, initial dose of 2.5ml of GBL (= about 4g of GHB) on an empty stomach is really a lot, actually enough to put a creature to sleep for a few hours. So, instead of increasing doses let a body learn how to metabolise GBL and then try again with initial dose of 1-1.5ml of GBL = 2.4g of GHB should really do the trick. Don't forget that rabbit's psyche too should learn recognising symptoms of GHB inebriation as they can be quite subtle and considerably dependent on set & setting. All this can take a few disappointing tries, so at least make those tries as safe as possible, G is not a joke.

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